NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[CTALNH]

The Admin vote is 3-3.

So do something.

[Free South Califas]

Considering "butthurt" literally means "suffering consequences from rape", I don't see what's to disagree with. If you don't want to get warned, don't harass others about the consequences of rape. Simple.

Literal meanings don't matter. You know what he meant by butthurt.

Oh believe me, I do.

The slander and etiquette nonsense is getting old really. I'm not one to talk about PC police, but the senate really does have PC police right now.

Well, there was a fucking gang rape, so my suggestion would be grow up and deal with the fact that these things have consequences.

ETA: Also if you were "not one to talk about PC police", you wouldn't. Maybe you're imagining yourself to be oh so very liberal about it but actually, the people you're thinking of aren't inclined to whine about "PC police", especially over matters they lack so much needed insight into. Guess what you're doing is totally different from political correctness. No political perspective on offer there.

[Great Nepal]

The Admin vote is 3-3.

So do something.

What exactly do you expect us to do?

[The Treorai]

The National Executive and Legislative Powers Act

Drafted By: Senator Owen Tarniff II and Great Nepal
Sponsors: New Zepuha, The Azulia, Ainin

Hereby;

REPEALS The Republican Executive Act,

FOUNDS The Office of President of the Commonwealth to serve as Head of State for our nation,

DECLARES An Election will be held every three (3) months, or when serving president calls an election within aforementioned time period, and shall be held on the following terms;
- Any Senator may run for the office of President;
- All nominees must sumbit their intention to run for Presidency atleast three (3) days in advance, or their candidacy will not be recorded;
- Elections shall be held by means of exhaustive voting, where every single voting period shall last for four (4) days;
- Last standing candidate at end of exhaustive voting will be named president of the commonwealth.
- Newly elected president will take office after three (3) days of being elected to allow serving president to end any works he started.
- During the period of between start of elections and new president taking over, serving president shall be referred to as "caretaker president" and shall not start any governmental action that wasn't started before the elections.

FOUNDS The Office of Prime Minister of the Commonwealth to serve as the Head of Government for our nation,

Declares prime minister shall be appointed by president and may be dismissed by president, as he sees fit.

DEFINES The Powers and Duties of the President of the Commonwealth as Follows;
- May Veto bill passed in the senate unless the bill has been passed by two third majority;
- May Ratify or Veto Declarations of War created, and passed by the senate;
- Acts as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces;
- Grant pardons to anyone convicted of either criminal or civil offence,

DEFINES The power and duties of prime minister of commonwealth as follows;
- May Veto one bill passed in the senate unless overruled by president or bill was passed by two third majority;
- May appoint, and remove senators to and from the various ministries established by the Acts of senate or by executive orders issued by prime minister or president;
- Acts as the Highest Level of Law Enforcement in our nation,
- Grant pardon to anyone convicted of crimes equivalent to or lower than derelict.

FOUNDS The Office of Speaker of the Senate, to serve as the head of the Senate of our nation,

DECLARES, speaker of the senate shall be hold power on the following terms;
- There shall be no more than fifteen speaker of the senate at a given time;
- Current speakers of the senate shall be Aeken, Britcan, Denecaep, Great Nepal, Maklohi Vai, Quirina, Regnum Dominae, Slazliyka, and Wolfmanne.
- New speaker of the senate may be appointed at discretion of existing speakers of the senate after internal consultation.
- Speaker of senate may be removed at discretion of existing speakers of the senate after internal consultation.

DEFINES The Powers and Duties of the Speaker of the Senate as Follows;
- Maintains the Queue for Legislation in the Senate Chamber;
- Moderates Debate;
- Keeps the official count when voting;
- Ensure civilized proceedings within the senate;
- Prevent and reduce filibusters

SHOULD The president be impeached from office by the senate or resign, a vote will take place five days following the passage of the Vote of No Confidence or resignation on the same terms as the above. The new president will serve the remainder of the three month term, and elections will be held once again,

DECLARES That a Vote of No Confidence may only be conducted after a motion of fifteen in the senate, and it may only pass with four fifth majority, that is conducted over 48 hours.

The National Executive and Legislative Powers Act has enough support to add into queue. I also move to ensure this skips queue and goes to top of the queue due to obvious changes this would make.

I second that motion.

[Chetssaland]

Literal meanings don't matter. You know what he meant by butthurt.

Oh believe me, I do.

The slander and etiquette nonsense is getting old really. I'm not one to talk about PC police, but the senate really does have PC police right now.

Well, there was a fucking gang rape, so my suggestion would be grow up and deal with the fact that these things have consequences.

You lost me at gang rape. If I'm missing something, I apologize. It's because I was gone for awhile.

But apparently it was only sloth memes he posted, and it was only because one party mentioned that being their party symbol, and it wasn't in an official senate thread like this. If one gets offended by a sloth meme, one is looking to get offended.

[Geilinor]

Considering "butthurt" literally means "suffering consequences from rape", I don't see what's to disagree with. If you don't want to get warned, don't harass others about the consequences of rape. Simple.

Literal meanings don't matter. You know what he meant by butthurt. The slander and etiquette nonsense is getting old really. I'm not one to talk about PC police, but the senate really does have PC police right now.

But like I already said, this isn't the place.

I agree. Also, butthurt does not mean "suffering consequences from rape". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/butthurt It means "Annoyance because of a perceived insult". Too many people are touchy about this slander and defamation stuff. I don't even think it's illegal in Aurentina yet.

[Ainin]

The National Executive and Legislative Powers Act

Drafted By: Senator Owen Tarniff II and Great Nepal
Sponsors: New Zepuha, The Azulia, Ainin

Hereby;

REPEALS The Republican Executive Act,

FOUNDS The Office of President of the Commonwealth to serve as Head of State for our nation,

DECLARES An Election will be held every three (3) months, or when serving president calls an election within aforementioned time period, and shall be held on the following terms;
- Any Senator may run for the office of President;
- All nominees must sumbit their intention to run for Presidency atleast three (3) days in advance, or their candidacy will not be recorded;
- Elections shall be held by means of exhaustive voting, where every single voting period shall last for four (4) days;
- Last standing candidate at end of exhaustive voting will be named president of the commonwealth.
- Newly elected president will take office after three (3) days of being elected to allow serving president to end any works he started.
- During the period of between start of elections and new president taking over, serving president shall be referred to as "caretaker president" and shall not start any governmental action that wasn't started before the elections.

FOUNDS The Office of Prime Minister of the Commonwealth to serve as the Head of Government for our nation,

Declares prime minister shall be appointed by president and may be dismissed by president, as he sees fit.

DEFINES The Powers and Duties of the President of the Commonwealth as Follows;
- May Veto bill passed in the senate unless the bill has been passed by two third majority;
- May Ratify or Veto Declarations of War created, and passed by the senate;
- Acts as Commander and Chief of the Armed Forces;
- Grant pardons to anyone convicted of either criminal or civil offence,

DEFINES The power and duties of prime minister of commonwealth as follows;
- May Veto one bill passed in the senate unless overruled by president or bill was passed by two third majority;
- May appoint, and remove senators to and from the various ministries established by the Acts of senate or by executive orders issued by prime minister or president;
- Acts as the Highest Level of Law Enforcement in our nation,
- Grant pardon to anyone convicted of crimes equivalent to or lower than derelict.

FOUNDS The Office of Speaker of the Senate, to serve as the head of the Senate of our nation,

DECLARES, speaker of the senate shall be hold power on the following terms;
- There shall be no more than fifteen speaker of the senate at a given time;
- Current speakers of the senate shall be Aeken, Britcan, Denecaep, Great Nepal, Maklohi Vai, Quirina, Regnum Dominae, Slazliyka, and Wolfmanne.
- New speaker of the senate may be appointed at discretion of existing speakers of the senate after internal consultation.
- Speaker of senate may be removed at discretion of existing speakers of the senate after internal consultation.

DEFINES The Powers and Duties of the Speaker of the Senate as Follows;
- Maintains the Queue for Legislation in the Senate Chamber;
- Moderates Debate;
- Keeps the official count when voting;
- Ensure civilized proceedings within the senate;
- Prevent and reduce filibusters

SHOULD The president be impeached from office by the senate or resign, a vote will take place five days following the passage of the Vote of No Confidence or resignation on the same terms as the above. The new president will serve the remainder of the three month term, and elections will be held once again,

DECLARES That a Vote of No Confidence may only be conducted after a motion of fifteen in the senate, and it may only pass with four fifth majority, that is conducted over 48 hours.

The National Executive and Legislative Powers Act has enough support to add into queue. I also move to ensure this skips queue and goes to top of the queue due to obvious changes this would make.

I second that motion.

Thirded.

[Geilinor]

I second that motion.

Thirded.

Fourthed

[Chetssaland]

Literal meanings don't matter. You know what he meant by butthurt. The slander and etiquette nonsense is getting old really. I'm not one to talk about PC police, but the senate really does have PC police right now.

But like I already said, this isn't the place.

I agree. Also, butthurt does not mean "suffering consequences from rape". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/butthurt It means "Annoyance because of a perceived insult".

Exactly, and we all know that's what he meant.

I have no vested interest in protecting Nihil. I don't know him whatsoever and he's not part of my party or coalition. I just call out an injustice when I see it.

[Free South Califas]

I'm sorry you see it that way. I was intending to refer to groups that are explicitly leftist as such, expecting that parties like yours would prefer terms like "left-center". I understand why you said that, but no, I was not behing dishonest, just using different terms. Is there a term you would prefer I use for parties left of TR's left wing?


This guy gets it. The reaction to the WEA was a double bind; our voters wanted us to speak up for their vision, and influential elements in the coalition thought merely proposing it was unacceptable. We've been working on an alternative, EDA, which is more business-owner-friendly. It's all such pointless destruction.

Where's the EDA?

I don't want to be confusing by posting the text in the chamber so here is a link to the latest version: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=241322&p=14932119#p14932119

[Arglorand]

Thirded.

Fourthed

Fifthed.

[Ainin]

Where's the EDA?

I don't want to be confusing by posting the text in the chamber so here is a link to the latest version: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=241322&p=14932119#p14932119

"The state will recognise the right of workers to choose to change the nature of their workplace to more democratic forms through free and fair elections. "
You realize this is near exactly the same as the clause that caused the defeat of the WEA, yes?

[Free South Califas]

Oh believe me, I do.
Well, there was a fucking gang rape, so my suggestion would be grow up and deal with the fact that these things have consequences.

You lost me at gang rape. If I'm missing something, I apologize. It's because I was gone for awhile.

While I'm glad you're beginning to admit it, that actually happened last night in the chamber and is what we've been discussing.

But apparently it was only sloth memes he posted, and it was only because one party mentioned that being their party symbol, and it wasn't in an official senate thread like this. If one gets offended by a sloth meme, one is looking to get offended.

Dude, you know those sloth memes were all rape jokes, right? He wasn't warned at the time for any of them. What you're complaining about is the administration noticing and correcting a pattern after standing back and letting it develop without interference. BTW, it was also borderline picspam and admins are minding the forum rules as well, so the mods don't come mess up our game.

Literal meanings don't matter. You know what he meant by butthurt. The slander and etiquette nonsense is getting old really. I'm not one to talk about PC police, but the senate really does have PC police right now.

But like I already said, this isn't the place.

I agree. Also, butthurt does not mean "suffering consequences from rape". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/butthurt It means "Annoyance because of a perceived insult". Too many people are touchy about this slander and defamation stuff. I don't even think it's illegal in Aurentina yet.

Gee, why would anyone be slightly fucking touchy about the same people constantly bringing up rape and harassing them for the consequences of their past abuse (ETA: at the hands of others)?

[Gothmogs]

Fourthed

Fifthed.

Sixthed (If needed)

[Britanno]

I don't want to be confusing by posting the text in the chamber so here is a link to the latest version: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=241322&p=14932119#p14932119

Isn't this just the WEA in different words? It won't pass.

[Britanno]

Sixthed (If needed)

Seventhed

[Yanalia]

I move to put the Executive Council Act to the top of the queue.

[Chetssaland]

You lost me at gang rape. If I'm missing something, I apologize. It's because I was gone for awhile.

While I'm glad you're beginning to admit it, that actually happened last night in the chamber and is what we've been discussing.

But apparently it was only sloth memes he posted, and it was only because one party mentioned that being their party symbol, and it wasn't in an official senate thread like this. If one gets offended by a sloth meme, one is looking to get offended.

Dude, you know those sloth memes were all rape jokes, right? He wasn't warned at the time for any of them. What you're complaining about is the administration noticing and correcting a pattern.

I agree. Also, butthurt does not mean "suffering consequences from rape". http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/butthurt It means "Annoyance because of a perceived insult". Too many people are touchy about this slander and defamation stuff. I don't even think it's illegal in Aurentina yet.

Gee, why would anyone be slightly fucking touchy about the same people constantly bringing up rape and harassing them for the consequences of their past abuse?

I have admitted it, I don't know why you said "beginning." Not that there's anything to admit. I was gone and I missed some stuff. Stop the presses.

If it happened last night, than the memes posted previously were clearly not inspired by it.

Yeah, I assumed they were all rape jokes. Which isn't surprising, considering that is all sloth jokes are anyway. I wouldn't expect anything other than rape when it comes to a sloth pic.

As you already said, the thing happened last night. The jokes made in the past were not referring to the incident.

[Ainin]

I move to put the Executive Council Act to the top of the queue.

You're motioning to bring an act at #2 to #1...

>.<


On that note, to put an end to the pissoff contest, I move to omnibus the ECA and LELPA as the Parliamentary Reform Act.

[The Treorai]

I move to put the Executive Council Act to the top of the queue.

You're motioning to bring an act at #2 to #1...

>.<


On that note, to put an end to the pissoff contest, I move to omnibus the ECA and LELPA as the Parliamentary Reform Act.

Anndd... What do we do if both pass?

[Great Nepal]

I move to put the Executive Council Act to the top of the queue.

You're motioning to bring an act at #2 to #1...

>.<


On that note, to put an end to the pissoff contest, I move to omnibus the ECA and LELPA as the Parliamentary Reform Act.

I object, and request that LELPA remain at #1 in the queue.

[Britanno]

Can we have the current queue for legislation please? I can't find it.

[Yanalia]

You're motioning to bring an act at #2 to #1...

>.<


On that note, to put an end to the pissoff contest, I move to omnibus the ECA and LELPA as the Parliamentary Reform Act.

Anndd... What do we do if both pass?

Do it like the Monarchy and Republican Acts. Aye for one, nay for another.

[The Treorai]

Anndd... What do we do if both pass?

Do it like the Monarchy and Republican Acts. Aye for one, nay for another.

Fair 'nuff.

[Yanalia]

You're motioning to bring an act at #2 to #1...

>.<


On that note, to put an end to the pissoff contest, I move to omnibus the ECA and LELPA as the Parliamentary Reform Act.

I object, and request that LELPA remain at #1 in the queue.

I object, and request that ECA remain at #1 in the queue.