NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Byzantium Imperial]

I oppose impeaching the President.

I second the opposition. Please remind me which laws or rights have been violated. If nothing has changed since yesterday, none.

Third

[Unicario]

I would like the Senate to prove that the President has done anything impeachable by. He has committed no crimes.

[Byzantium Imperial]

In addition, 3 or 4 more motions are needed (or preferably admin approval) is needed to end debate and begin voting. Come on people, its been 23 pages of debate without voting (give or take).
Its time to vote

[Costa Alegria]

Cant we just call for an election then?

Because there is no need for an election. The problems exist only within the President himself, not the government.

I would like the Senate to prove that the President has done anything impeachable by. He has committed no crimes.

So a President can be batshit insane and become a dictator, yet if they haven't broken any laws, it's perfectly OK for them to remain in office?

[Ainin]

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

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The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Cant we just call for an election then?

Because there is no need for an election. The problems exist only within the President himself, not the government.

I would like the Senate to prove that the President has done anything impeachable by. He has committed no crimes.

So a President can be batshit insane and become a dictator, yet if they haven't broken any laws, it's perfectly OK for them to remain in office?

He is not being dictatorial. Incompetence is not an impeachable offense where i live mind you. It can get you voted out though

[Regnum Dominae]

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

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The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

Seconded.


Also fourth the opposition to impeachment ofthe President.

[Costa Alegria]

He is not being dictatorial. Incompetence is not an impeachable offense where i live mind you. It can get you voted out though

It's not an impeachment. According to the Republican Act, the President can be voted out for misconduct or disability with a 2/3 majority in a vote in the Senate.

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

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The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

Against. The President is the problem, not the Prime Minister.

[Unicario]

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

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The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

Seconded.


Also fourth the opposition to impeachment ofthe President.

Thirded.

He is not being dictatorial. Incompetence is not an impeachable offense where i live mind you. It can get you voted out though

It's not an impeachment. According to the Republican Act, the President can be voted out for misconduct or disability with a 2/3 majority in a vote in the Senate.

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

---

The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

Against. The President is the problem, not the Prime Minister.

Well, seems a chunk of the Senate is opposed.

[Ujh Uhj]

I'm still wondering what the President has done to be impeachable.

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

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The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

Seconded.


Also fourth the opposition to impeachment ofthe President.

Thirded and fifthed.
EDIT: fourthed*

[Geilinor]

He is not being dictatorial. Incompetence is not an impeachable offense where i live mind you. It can get you voted out though

It's not an impeachment. According to the Republican Act, the President can be voted out for misconduct or disability with a 2/3 majority in a vote in the Senate.

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

---

The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

Against. The President is the problem, not the Prime Minister.

How is the president the problem? The prime minister could be, considering the fact that prime ministers are supposed to be very active. When's the last time the PM participated in debate? I haven't seen it.

[Costa Alegria]

Well, seems a chunk of the Senate is opposed.

A few right-wing senators who happen to be in the Chamber as I made the motion does not count as a "chunk".

I'm still wondering what the President has done to be impeachable.

It's not an impeachment. It's a vote to have him removed via disability because his paranoia of communists is preventing him from acting in a professional manner.

[Ainin]

He is not being dictatorial. Incompetence is not an impeachable offense where i live mind you. It can get you voted out though

It's not an impeachment. According to the Republican Act, the President can be voted out for misconduct or disability with a 2/3 majority in a vote in the Senate.

Motion to Remove the Prime Minister from his Duties

---

The Aurentine Senate,

Dismayed at the poor performance of FreeSoc, the Prime Minister of Aurentina,

Disappointed in the policies of the Prime Minister's Office,

Expressing a lack of confidence in the Prime Minister and his administration,

Not believing the Prime Minister capable of accomplishing his duties as head of government,

Hereby removes the Prime Minister from his duties, dissolves the First Cabinet of Aurentina and ends the First Session of the Aurentine Senate.

Against. The President is the problem, not the Prime Minister.

"Blame the head of state for the actions of the head of government"?

Seems legit.

[Byzantium Imperial]

I'm still wondering what the President has done to be impeachable.

Seconded.


Also fourth the opposition to impeachment ofthe President.

Thirded and fifthed.
EDIT: fourthed*

5thed

[Geilinor]

Well, seems a chunk of the Senate is opposed.

A few right-wing senators who happen to be in the Chamber as I made the motion does not count as a "chunk".

I'm still wondering what the President has done to be impeachable.

It's not an impeachment. It's a vote to have him removed via disability because his paranoia of communists is preventing him from acting in a professional manner.

Costa, I'm right-wing? I opposed the impeachment.

[Geilinor]

It's not an impeachment. According to the Republican Act, the President can be voted out for misconduct or disability with a 2/3 majority in a vote in the Senate.



Against. The President is the problem, not the Prime Minister.

"Blame the head of state for the actions of the head of government"?

Seems legit.

It's not as much the head of government's actions than it is lack of action, in my opinion.

[Slazliyka]

"Blame the head of state for the actions of the head of government"?

Seems legit.

It's not as much the head of government's actions than it is lack of action, in my opinion.

Being a lame duck is hardly solid grounds for impeachment. Just vote him out next election if you don't like him. Impeachment ought to be reserved for when they make a serious mistake.

[Costa Alegria]

How is the president the problem?

He is paranoid. He's going around rambling about "communist foxes" and acting in a manner that isn't very professional.

"Blame the head of state for the actions of the head of government"?

Seems legit.

That is not what I am doing. I'm blaming the head of state for his actions. That was made very clear.

[Ainin]

It's not as much the head of government's actions than it is lack of action, in my opinion.

Being a lame duck is hardly solid grounds for impeachment. Just vote him out next election if you don't like him. Impeachment ought to be reserved for when they make a serious mistake.

Not an impeachment, a confidence motion against FreeSoc.

[Wolfmanne]

How is the president the problem?

He is paranoid. He's going around rambling about "communist foxes" and acting in a manner that isn't very professional.

"Blame the head of state for the actions of the head of government"?

Seems legit.

That is not what I am doing. I'm blaming the head of state for his actions. That was made very clear.

I was only using that as rhetoric Costa. A few people decided to make a joke out of it but I don't think that Communists are foxes.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

LLA: NAY
SSA: YEA
ILA: YEA
WEA: NAY

[Ujh Uhj]

How is the president the problem?

He is paranoid. He's going around rambling about "communist foxes" and acting in a manner that isn't very professional.

"Blame the head of state for the actions of the head of government"?

Seems legit.

That is not what I am doing. I'm blaming the head of state for his actions. That was made very clear.

Ah, he's not always very professional. Well, Senator, you aren't exactly the most professional either. I, however, don't think that's a reason to remove you from office.

[Geilinor]

It's not as much the head of government's actions than it is lack of action, in my opinion.

Being a lame duck is hardly solid grounds for impeachment. Just vote him out next election if you don't like him. Impeachment ought to be reserved for when they make a serious mistake.

The president is the head of state. The prime minister is the head of government. You can't impeach a prime minister, and you don't elect one either. Presidents can be impeached and elected in national elections. Prime ministers are indirectly elected.

[Byzantium Imperial]

LLA: NAY
SSA: YEA
ILA: YEA
WEA: NAY

Voting has not yet begun.
We still need a 6th ext to begin voting

[Geilinor]

How is the president the problem?

He is paranoid. He's going around rambling about "communist foxes" and acting in a manner that isn't very professional.

"Blame the head of state for the actions of the head of government"?

Seems legit.

That is not what I am doing. I'm blaming the head of state for his actions. That was made very clear.

The "communist fox" thing wasn't happening when I was on yesterday. The first I've heard of this was today, so I have no idea who originally started it.