NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Beta Test]

My only issue is the astronaut selection. Usually, they have some kind of previous flying experience or may have worked in the air force.

Of course those people will be prioritized by the selection committee.

Ah good. And what are the qualifications for being in the selection committee?

[Ainin]

Of course those people will be prioritized by the selection committee.

Ah good. And what are the qualifications for being in the selection committee?

Rocket scientists (hehe) appointed by the Minister.

[Britcan]

I have some issues with the NEA. I think that not only are the targets too ambitious but that it is ridiculous for a nation of our size to go it alone rather than working with other nations.

It doesn't prevent us working with other nations.

It does say we need to build our own version of the ISS. Why waste money on a project like this when we can work with other nations on the existing ISS.

[Malgrave]

My only issue is the astronaut selection. Usually, they have some kind of previous flying experience or may have worked in the air force.

Of course those people will be prioritized by the selection committee.

Why can't we call them cosmonauts?

[Beta Test]

Ah good. And what are the qualifications for being in the selection committee?

Rocket scientists (hehe) appointed by the Minister.

Good. We wouldn't want unqualified people choosing the astronauts.

[Beta Test]

Of course those people will be prioritized by the selection committee.

Why can't we call them cosmonauts?

I knew someone was going to mention that.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Of course those people will be prioritized by the selection committee.

Why can't we call them cosmonauts?

Cause sputnick and Soruz has already been launched

[Ainin]

Of course those people will be prioritized by the selection committee.

Why can't we call them cosmonauts?

You can call them whatever you want. Astronauts, cosmonauts, tacos, whatever. The bill calls them astronauts because that is generally what they're called in the English language.

[Oneracon]

It doesn't prevent us working with other nations.

It does say we need to build our own version of the ISS. Why waste money on a project like this when we can work with other nations on the existing ISS.

It doesn't say we have to build it ourselves, it just says we need to commence work. Nothing in there says we can't work with another agency to build a new space station.

Also: you do know that the ISS is only going to remain in orbit for another 15 years (at most) before the joint funding for the project ends, right?

[Great Nepal]

It doesn't prevent us working with other nations.

It does say we need to build our own version of the ISS. Why waste money on a project like this when we can work with other nations on the existing ISS.

We need to start work on our version of ISS by 2020, since ISS is due to run out of funding in about 2028. Plus it does not mean we can not work with other nations on that project.

[Malgrave]

Why can't we call them cosmonauts?

You can call them whatever you want. Astronauts, cosmonauts, tacos, whatever. The bill calls them astronauts because that is generally what they're called in the English language.

Aurentines first taco in space.

[Great Nepal]

Of course those people will be prioritized by the selection committee.

Why can't we call them cosmonauts?

We aren't communists.

[Britcan]

It does say we need to build our own version of the ISS. Why waste money on a project like this when we can work with other nations on the existing ISS.

It doesn't say we have to build it ourselves, it just says we need to commence work. Nothing in there says we can't work with another agency to build a new space station.

Also: you do know that the ISS is only going to remain in orbit for another 15 years (at most) before the joint funding for the project ends, right?

What space agency is going to work with us? The ESA, NASA and all the other major space agencies are working on the ISS.

So if a ISS v2 were to be created then surely it should be built when the present one is decomissioned?

[Oneracon]

It does say we need to build our own version of the ISS. Why waste money on a project like this when we can work with other nations on the existing ISS.

We need to start work on our version of ISS by 2020, since ISS is due to run out of funding in about 2028. Plus it does not mean we can not work with other nations on that project.

The station's capacity will also be significantly diminished if Roscosmos decides to pull out of the project right at the end of funding in 2020 and use the ROS as the base for building OPSEK or Mir II.

[Beta Test]

Other nations have come to the conclusion that the future of space Is in private hands. No one will realistically work with a small Mediterrean nation that just got independence.

[Oneracon]

It doesn't say we have to build it ourselves, it just says we need to commence work. Nothing in there says we can't work with another agency to build a new space station.

Also: you do know that the ISS is only going to remain in orbit for another 15 years (at most) before the joint funding for the project ends, right?

What space agency is going to work with us? The ESA, NASA and all the other major space agencies are working on the ISS.

So if a ISS v2 were to be created then surely it should be built when the present one is decomissioned?

Let me clarify the wording of the bill. The bill says we have to have commenced work (construction of modules, etc.) for a new space station by 2020, which will be around the same time as the various space agencies of the world decide if they're going to co-operate again to build ISS II or go off and build their own space stations (such as Russia's planned OPSEK)

[Kamchastkia]

Why can't we call them cosmonauts?

We aren't communists.

Actually some of us are, but that's entirely irrelevant to the title cosmonaut.

[Ainin]

Other nations have come to the conclusion that the future of space Is in private hands. No one will realistically work with a small Mediterrean nation that just got independence.

By "other nations", I presume you mean the bankrupt US?

[Beta Test]

Other nations have come to the conclusion that the future of space Is in private hands. No one will realistically work with a small Mediterrean nation that just got independence.

By "other nations", I presume you mean the bankrupt US?

Correct

[Oneracon]

Other nations have come to the conclusion that the future of space Is in private hands. No one will realistically work with a small Mediterrean nation that just got independence.

China, India, Japan, and the EU have not... just because the US does something doesn't mean the whole world does.

[Ainin]

By "other nations", I presume you mean the bankrupt US?

Correct

That's the problem. The only reason the US went private is because it's on the verge of bankruptcy.

[Great Nepal]

By "other nations", I presume you mean the bankrupt US?

Correct

We are neither bankrupt nor US. Therefore, I dont think we should follow in their footsteps.

[Beta Test]

Other nations have come to the conclusion that the future of space Is in private hands. No one will realistically work with a small Mediterrean nation that just got independence.

China, India, Japan, and the EU have not... just because the US does something doesn't mean the whole world does.

The EU is just as bankrupt and you think the Chinese will be interested in us?

[Ainin]

China, India, Japan, and the EU have not... just because the US does something doesn't mean the whole world does.

The EU is just as bankrupt and you think the Chinese will be interested in us?

*sees the goalposts being moved*
*moves them back*

You were saying something about the future of space being in private hands, yes?

[Oneracon]

Actually, thinking about the EU... we don't actually need to become an EU member state to become an ESA member state.

Switzlerland is a full member of ESA and Canada is an associate member of ESA, neither of which are EU members.