NSG Senate Coffee Shop [NSG Senate]

[Great Nepal]

Primary and secondary education is free. After that, government gives scholarships (Top 2.5% = Free. Top 5% = 75% off. Top 10% = 50% off. Top 15% = 25% off).
This enables us to fund our best minds while being responsible with public funds.

I disagree entirely with a scholarship post-secondary school basis. Public institutions that provide tertiary education should be free of tuition expenses just like primary and secondary school. Tuition fees can easily place students in a large amount of debt just to get their degrees. This not only places large amounts of stress on the students, but also harms the economy as students will be concentrating on their debt payments than purchasing in the economy. Though the grant structure might be acceptable for private universities.
As a middle ground, I could suggest that there is a set number of tuition free semesters, and after that there are tuition fees.

I really dont want this to be dragged into private/ public debate so how about I add clause that says if public university is established by future bill, it will have fee structure (or no fee) as stated in that bill? That leaves it open for you guys to try and establish free public university.

[Polvia]

I really dont want this to be dragged into private/ public debate so how about I add clause that says if public university is established by future bill, it will have fee structure (or no fee) as stated in that bill? That leaves it open for you guys to try and establish free public university.

That sounds acceptable.

[The Nihilistic view]

No it does not. The market will ensure that the product is superior to anything the state has to offer, often doing things against what the government has decided to implement. Education has many different conflicting ideas and ways of educating and to force private schools into one way of doing things that may not be the best way is stupid. The UK is a brilliant example of how to run a private education sector and probably has one of the top 3 private education sectors in the world.

I will be seriously shocked if UK does not have a system (de jure or de facto) which requires school to teach things like English, Maths, Sciences etc.

Prepared to be shocked. They can choose what examinations to offer and no subject is mandatory if they are a member of the independent schools council and thus not regulated by ofsted. Even as late as the 1970's when my father was at school he did not have to take any science if he chose not too. But of course they all make their pupils take the core subjects nowadays, I for example had to do all three sciences, two humanities and a language with English and maths plus another 3 of my choice as mandatory. I did not have to take any of the key stage test's nor did I take ordinary GCSE's.

[Free South Califas]

ETA, OOC: Sorry, I was catching up to the thread and didn't see your earlier response.

There's no good reason to drink coffee. Do you want to ban that, Senator?

That's a better motivation, I'll admit. Though, I still wouldn't punish the consumption of these drugs.

At the very least coffe helps focus, and weed is almost entirly harmless and is calming. Cocaine stimulates people into rage like state, not to mention has serious health consequences

Then help the addicts, don't ban the substance.

Consequences? Major sections of the economies of Ecuador, much of Colombia and other countries have been criminalized for no good reason. Coca is used there in plant form to help them survive the altitude, not much stronger than coffee, and countries like the US end up penalizing them for merely existing, in a way which has been sustaining itself without harming anyone for centuries.

We need to categorically reject the attitude that the state can possibly know what is better for the individual's body than that individual working in concert with some portion of the medical community.

[The Nihilistic view]

At the very least coffe helps focus, and weed is almost entirly harmless and is calming. Cocaine stimulates people into rage like state, not to mention has serious health consequences

Then help the addicts, don't ban the substance.

Consequences? Major sections of the economies of Ecuador, much of Colombia and other countries have been criminalized for no good reason. Coca is used there in plant form to help them survive the altitude, not much stronger than coffee, and countries like the US end up penalizing them for merely existing, in a way which has been sustaining itself without harming anyone for centuries.

We need to categorically reject the attitude that the state can possibly know what is better for the individual's body than that individual working in concert with some portion of the medical community.

Oh the poor drug barons!!

These drugs should be banned because of the huge negative externalities.

[Great Nepal]

Educational Framework Establishment Act
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors: Byzantium Imperial, Ainin, Mishmahig

Section 1 - Pre-primary Education
a) Pre-primary education shall refer to non-mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of three and lasting for three years.
b) Pre-primary education shall be for three consecutive years which shall be: Nursery, LKG, UKG.
c) Pre-primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) Mathematics
ii) Science
iii) English
iv) Information Communication Technology
v) Arts

d) School day and week shall be decided at discretion of school governors ensuring appropriate time at home for healthy child development is ensured.

Section 2 - Primary Education
a) Primary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of six and lasting for five years.
b) Primary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year one, year two, year three, year four and year five.
c) Primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics
iv) Biology
v) Chemistry
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History and Social Studies
viii) Arts
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xii) Physical Education

d) There shall be Province Level Examination (PLE), which shall be held at every province as established by government subdivision act.

Section 3 - Secondary Education
a) Secondary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child gets enough percentage in Provence Level Examination to be accepted by secondary school and lasting for five years.
b) Secondary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year six, year seven, year eight, year nine and year ten.
c) Secondary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics, or Additional sciences
iv) Biology, or Additional sciences
v) Chemistry, or Additional sciences
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History
viii) Geography
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Arts (optional)
xii) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xiii) Physical Education (optional)
xiv) Design And Technology (optional)
- Food Technology or,
- Product Design or,
- Electronics or,
- Graphics Design
xv) Social Studies (optional)

d) At end of the secondary education, there shall be School Leaving Certificate Examination (SLC), which shall be held at nationally.

Section 3 - College
a) College shall refer to non-mandatory academics, starting when child gets enough percentage in School Leaving Certificate Examination to be accepted by college and lasting for two years.
b) Secondary education shall be for two consecutive or non-consecutive years which shall be: year eleven and year twelve.
c) College shall have final authority in regards to subjects they offer. Students are encouraged to choose four subjects.
d) Colleges are encouraged to work with universities while formulating their curriculum.
e) At end of college, there shall be University Entrance Examination (UEE), which shall be administered by group of top ten universities.

Section 4 - Business Education
a) Business Education shall refer to alternative to college as described in section 3.
b) Business shall manage this education to gain hands on experience and drive straight into working while gaining a qualification.
c) This shall provide qualification known as BETC, which shall be equivalent to associated UEE certificate.
d) Universities are not required to recognise BETC as qualification, neither are employers.

Section 5 - University
a) University shall refer to academic route after college, which shall be non-mandatory.
b) University shall have final authority in regards to the curriculum offered.
c) This shall provide qualification known as degree, provided university is accredited in acceding order of importance shall be:

i) Doctorate
ii) Masters
iii) Bachelors

Section 6 - Funding
a) In regards to primary and secondary school, government shall fund this entirely either through vouchers or public schooling.
b) In regards to college, those who achieve top 2.5% in SLC receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in SLC receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in SLC receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in SLC receive 25% government funded scholarship.
c) In regards to university, those who achieve top 2.5% in UEE receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in UEE receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in UEE receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in UEE receive 25% government funded scholarship.
d) Universities shall not charge students more than £4784 for tuition fees, unless they are ranked in top ten universities in which case they are exempt from this cap.

Section 7 - Examination
a) This senate establishes school examination board, under ministry of education who shall produce, mark and evaluate School Leaving Certificate and Province Level examinations.
b) This senate establishes UEE examination board, which shall be administered by representative of top ten universities within the nation who shall produce, mark and evaluate UEE examinations.
c) Examination shall be marked to produce percentage by the respective examination board stated above.

Section 8 - Miscellaneous
a) Nothing in this act shall prevent creation of free schools, colleges or universities funded by charities or public schools funded by government.
b) School year shall start in January and end in December.

Here, the curriculum I posted in proposal format. Sponsors please?
And please tell me if I forgot to include something that we agreed upon (its midnight and I have feeling that I might be forgetting something).

[The Nihilistic view]

Educational Framework Establishment Act
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors:

Section 1 - Pre-primary Education
a) Pre-primary education shall refer to non-mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of three and lasting for three years.
b) Pre-primary education shall be for three consecutive years which shall be: Nursery, LKG, UKG.
c) Pre-primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) Mathematics
ii) Science
iii) English
iv) Information Communication Technology
v) Arts

d) School day and week shall be decided at discretion of school governors ensuring appropriate time at home for healthy child development is ensured.

Section 2 - Primary Education
a) Primary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of six and lasting for five years.
b) Primary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year one, year two, year three, year four and year five.
c) Primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics
iv) Biology
v) Chemistry
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History and Social Studies
viii) Arts
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xii) Physical Education

d) There shall be Province Level Examination (PLE), which shall be held at every province as established by government subdivision act.

Section 3 - Secondary Education
a) Secondary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child gets enough percentage in Provence Level Examination to be accepted by secondary school and lasting for five years.
b) Secondary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year six, year seven, year eight, year nine and year ten.
c) Secondary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics, or Additional sciences
iv) Biology, or Additional sciences
v) Chemistry, or Additional sciences
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History
viii) Geography
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Arts (optional)
xii) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xiii) Physical Education (optional)
xiv) Design And Technology (optional)
- Food Technology or,
- Product Design or,
- Electronics or,
- Graphics Design
xv) Social Studies (optional)

d) At end of the secondary education, there shall be School Leaving Certificate Examination (SLC), which shall be held at nationally.

Section 3 - College
a) College shall refer to non-mandatory academics, starting when child gets enough percentage in School Leaving Certificate Examination to be accepted by college and lasting for two years.
b) Secondary education shall be for two consecutive or non-consecutive years which shall be: year eleven and year twelve.
c) College shall have final authority in regards to subjects they offer. Students are encouraged to choose four subjects.
d) Colleges are encouraged to work with universities while formulating their curriculum.
e) At end of college, there shall be University Entrance Examination (UEE), which shall be administered by group of top ten universities.

Section 4 - Business Education
a) Business Education shall refer to alternative to college as described in section 3.
b) Business shall manage this education to gain hands on experience and drive straight into working while gaining a qualification.
c) This shall provide qualification known as BETC, which shall be equivalent to associated UEE certificate.
d) Universities are not required to recognise BETC as qualification, neither are employers.

Section 5 - University
a) University shall refer to academic route after college, which shall be non-mandatory.
b) University shall have final authority in regards to the curriculum offered.
c) This shall provide qualification known as degree, provided university is accredited in acceding order of importance shall be:

i) Doctorate
ii) Masters
iii) Bachelors

Section 6 - Funding
a) In regards to primary and secondary school, government shall fund this entirely either through vouchers or public schooling.
b) In regards to college, those who achieve top 2.5% in SLC receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in SLC receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in SLC receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in SLC receive 25% government funded scholarship.
c) In regards to university, those who achieve top 2.5% in UEE receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in UEE receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in UEE receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in UEE receive 25% government funded scholarship.
d) Universities shall not charge students more than £4784 for tuition fees, unless they are ranked in top ten universities in which case they are exempt from this cap.

Section 7 - Examination
a) This senate establishes school examination board, under ministry of education who shall produce, mark and evaluate School Leaving Certificate and Province Level examinations.
b) This senate establishes UEE examination board, which shall be administered by representative of top ten universities within the nation who shall produce, mark and evaluate UEE examinations.
c) Examination shall be marked to produce percentage by the respective examination board stated above.

Section 8 - Miscellaneous
a) Nothing in this act shall prevent creation of free schools, colleges or universities funded by charities or public schools funded by government.
b) School year shall start in January and end in December.

Here, the curriculum I posted in proposal format. Sponsors please?
And please tell me if I forgot to include something that we agreed upon (its midnight and I have feeling that I might be forgetting something).

If you add in a specific exemption from the bill for private schools I will co-sponsor.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Educational Framework Establishment Act
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors:

Section 1 - Pre-primary Education
a) Pre-primary education shall refer to non-mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of three and lasting for three years.
b) Pre-primary education shall be for three consecutive years which shall be: Nursery, LKG, UKG.
c) Pre-primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) Mathematics
ii) Science
iii) English
iv) Information Communication Technology
v) Arts

d) School day and week shall be decided at discretion of school governors ensuring appropriate time at home for healthy child development is ensured.

Section 2 - Primary Education
a) Primary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of six and lasting for five years.
b) Primary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year one, year two, year three, year four and year five.
c) Primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics
iv) Biology
v) Chemistry
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History and Social Studies
viii) Arts
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xii) Physical Education

d) There shall be Province Level Examination (PLE), which shall be held at every province as established by government subdivision act.

Section 3 - Secondary Education
a) Secondary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child gets enough percentage in Provence Level Examination to be accepted by secondary school and lasting for five years.
b) Secondary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year six, year seven, year eight, year nine and year ten.
c) Secondary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics, or Additional sciences
iv) Biology, or Additional sciences
v) Chemistry, or Additional sciences
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History
viii) Geography
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Arts (optional)
xii) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xiii) Physical Education (optional)
xiv) Design And Technology (optional)
- Food Technology or,
- Product Design or,
- Electronics or,
- Graphics Design
xv) Social Studies (optional)

d) At end of the secondary education, there shall be School Leaving Certificate Examination (SLC), which shall be held at nationally.

Section 3 - College
a) College shall refer to non-mandatory academics, starting when child gets enough percentage in School Leaving Certificate Examination to be accepted by college and lasting for two years.
b) Secondary education shall be for two consecutive or non-consecutive years which shall be: year eleven and year twelve.
c) College shall have final authority in regards to subjects they offer. Students are encouraged to choose four subjects.
d) Colleges are encouraged to work with universities while formulating their curriculum.
e) At end of college, there shall be University Entrance Examination (UEE), which shall be administered by group of top ten universities.

Section 4 - Business Education
a) Business Education shall refer to alternative to college as described in section 3.
b) Business shall manage this education to gain hands on experience and drive straight into working while gaining a qualification.
c) This shall provide qualification known as BETC, which shall be equivalent to associated UEE certificate.
d) Universities are not required to recognise BETC as qualification, neither are employers.

Section 5 - University
a) University shall refer to academic route after college, which shall be non-mandatory.
b) University shall have final authority in regards to the curriculum offered.
c) This shall provide qualification known as degree, provided university is accredited in acceding order of importance shall be:

i) Doctorate
ii) Masters
iii) Bachelors

Section 6 - Funding
a) In regards to primary and secondary school, government shall fund this entirely either through vouchers or public schooling.
b) In regards to college, those who achieve top 2.5% in SLC receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in SLC receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in SLC receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in SLC receive 25% government funded scholarship.
c) In regards to university, those who achieve top 2.5% in UEE receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in UEE receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in UEE receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in UEE receive 25% government funded scholarship.
d) Universities shall not charge students more than £4784 for tuition fees, unless they are ranked in top ten universities in which case they are exempt from this cap.

Section 7 - Examination
a) This senate establishes school examination board, under ministry of education who shall produce, mark and evaluate School Leaving Certificate and Province Level examinations.
b) This senate establishes UEE examination board, which shall be administered by representative of top ten universities within the nation who shall produce, mark and evaluate UEE examinations.
c) Examination shall be marked to produce percentage by the respective examination board stated above.

Section 8 - Miscellaneous
a) Nothing in this act shall prevent creation of free schools, colleges or universities funded by charities or public schools funded by government.
b) School year shall start in January and end in December.

Here, the curriculum I posted in proposal format. Sponsors please?
And please tell me if I forgot to include something that we agreed upon (its midnight and I have feeling that I might be forgetting something).

Il sponsor

[Great Nepal]

If you add in a specific exemption from the bill for private schools I will co-sponsor.

I cant do that.
Private schools must be held up to certain standards or we will end up in situation where so-called legitimate schools are not teaching biology and instead teaching bible as legitimate biology book.

[Ainin]

Educational Framework Establishment Act
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors:

Section 1 - Pre-primary Education
a) Pre-primary education shall refer to non-mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of three and lasting for three years.
b) Pre-primary education shall be for three consecutive years which shall be: Nursery, LKG, UKG.
c) Pre-primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) Mathematics
ii) Science
iii) English
iv) Information Communication Technology
v) Arts

d) School day and week shall be decided at discretion of school governors ensuring appropriate time at home for healthy child development is ensured.

Section 2 - Primary Education
a) Primary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child reaches age of six and lasting for five years.
b) Primary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year one, year two, year three, year four and year five.
c) Primary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics
iv) Biology
v) Chemistry
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History and Social Studies
viii) Arts
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xii) Physical Education

d) There shall be Province Level Examination (PLE), which shall be held at every province as established by government subdivision act.

Section 3 - Secondary Education
a) Secondary education shall refer to mandatory education, starting when child gets enough percentage in Provence Level Examination to be accepted by secondary school and lasting for five years.
b) Secondary education shall be for five consecutive years which shall be: year six, year seven, year eight, year nine and year ten.
c) Secondary education shall require following subjects to be taught in school. Any additional subjects may be taught at discretion of school governors.

i) English
ii) Mathematics
iii) Physics, or Additional sciences
iv) Biology, or Additional sciences
v) Chemistry, or Additional sciences
vi) Computing (software development), or ICT (practical)
vii) History
viii) Geography
ix) One or more languages (Standardised Chinese, Mandarin, Latin, Aurentine, German, Spanish, schools may provide additional language)
x) Music (optional)
xi) Arts (optional)
xii) Additional Mathematics (optional)
xiii) Physical Education (optional)
xiv) Design And Technology (optional)
- Food Technology or,
- Product Design or,
- Electronics or,
- Graphics Design
xv) Social Studies (optional)

d) At end of the secondary education, there shall be School Leaving Certificate Examination (SLC), which shall be held at nationally.

Section 3 - College
a) College shall refer to non-mandatory academics, starting when child gets enough percentage in School Leaving Certificate Examination to be accepted by college and lasting for two years.
b) Secondary education shall be for two consecutive or non-consecutive years which shall be: year eleven and year twelve.
c) College shall have final authority in regards to subjects they offer. Students are encouraged to choose four subjects.
d) Colleges are encouraged to work with universities while formulating their curriculum.
e) At end of college, there shall be University Entrance Examination (UEE), which shall be administered by group of top ten universities.

Section 4 - Business Education
a) Business Education shall refer to alternative to college as described in section 3.
b) Business shall manage this education to gain hands on experience and drive straight into working while gaining a qualification.
c) This shall provide qualification known as BETC, which shall be equivalent to associated UEE certificate.
d) Universities are not required to recognise BETC as qualification, neither are employers.

Section 5 - University
a) University shall refer to academic route after college, which shall be non-mandatory.
b) University shall have final authority in regards to the curriculum offered.
c) This shall provide qualification known as degree, provided university is accredited in acceding order of importance shall be:

i) Doctorate
ii) Masters
iii) Bachelors

Section 6 - Funding
a) In regards to primary and secondary school, government shall fund this entirely either through vouchers or public schooling.
b) In regards to college, those who achieve top 2.5% in SLC receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in SLC receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in SLC receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in SLC receive 25% government funded scholarship.
c) In regards to university, those who achieve top 2.5% in UEE receive 100% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 5% in UEE receive 75% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 10% in UEE receive 50% government funded scholarship, those who achieve top 15% in UEE receive 25% government funded scholarship.
d) Universities shall not charge students more than £4784 for tuition fees, unless they are ranked in top ten universities in which case they are exempt from this cap.

Section 7 - Examination
a) This senate establishes school examination board, under ministry of education who shall produce, mark and evaluate School Leaving Certificate and Province Level examinations.
b) This senate establishes UEE examination board, which shall be administered by representative of top ten universities within the nation who shall produce, mark and evaluate UEE examinations.
c) Examination shall be marked to produce percentage by the respective examination board stated above.

Section 8 - Miscellaneous
a) Nothing in this act shall prevent creation of free schools, colleges or universities funded by charities or public schools funded by government.
b) School year shall start in January and end in December.

Here, the curriculum I posted in proposal format. Sponsors please?
And please tell me if I forgot to include something that we agreed upon (its midnight and I have feeling that I might be forgetting something).

If you add in a specific exemption from the bill for private schools I will co-sponsor.

I urge Great Nepal not to give an exemption to private schools.

Oh, and I will sponsor.

[Free South Califas]

I've put forward an act dealing with drugs already and it's in the queue. It doesn't criminalise any drugs but sets reasonable restrictions on those that are legal.

Thanks for this reminder, Senator.. In that case, categorically opposed to new laws setting restrictions on drug use.

I feel that minimally there must be regulations ensuring that these drugs are of a certain standard (like most food and drug products), and I do believe that drugs must be recognized as a problem and their use discouraged in society.

Troubling the concept that merely "drugs" as such (not, say, addiction, exploitation, ...) is "a problem", I'd otherwise agree with the general thrust of it.

[Great Nepal]

Il sponsor

Thanks.

I urge Great Nepal not to give an exemption to private schools.

I wont. We need to ensure schools meet certain basic standards.

Oh, and I will sponsor.

Glad to have you on board.

[The Nihilistic view]

If you add in a specific exemption from the bill for private schools I will co-sponsor.

I cant do that.
Private schools must be held up to certain standards or we will end up in situation where so-called legitimate schools are not teaching biology and instead teaching bible as legitimate biology book.

The reason I ask is because;

1) Private education can then become a good export.
2) The rich and powerful will send their children to foreign private schools such as in the UK, Switzerland and the US. This will be bad for our nation in the long run.
3) Its called private for a reason, the state don't get involved.

[Mishmahig]

If you add in a specific exemption from the bill for private schools I will co-sponsor.

I urge Great Nepal not to give an exemption to private schools.

Oh, and I will sponsor.

I'll sponsor as well, and I second Senator Ainin's comment regarding no exemptions for private schools.

[Ainin]

I cant do that.
Private schools must be held up to certain standards or we will end up in situation where so-called legitimate schools are not teaching biology and instead teaching bible as legitimate biology book.

The reason I ask is because;

1) Private education can then become a good export.
2) The rich and powerful will send there children to foreign private schools such as in the UK, Switzerland and the US. This will be bad for our nation in the long run.
3) Its called private for a reason, the state don't get involved.

1) We're trying to ensure good education for kids, not trying to create a market in teachers.
2) Tough cheese for them.
3) Yeah, screw antitrust, consumer protection laws, etc because private means no government intervention!

[Great Nepal]

I urge Great Nepal not to give an exemption to private schools.

Oh, and I will sponsor.

I'll sponsor as well, and I second Senator Ainin's comment regarding no exemptions for private schools.

Added, and thanks.

I cant do that.
Private schools must be held up to certain standards or we will end up in situation where so-called legitimate schools are not teaching biology and instead teaching bible as legitimate biology book.

The reason I ask is because;

1) Private education can then become a good export.
2) The rich and powerful will send there children to foreign private schools such as in the UK, Switzerland and the US. This will be bad for our nation in the long run.
3) Its called private for a reason, the state don't get involved.

1. Not meeting basic requirements set out in the bill will not make it good export, it will make it low-quality export.
2. So, they will send children to foreign schools where they will still be learning those stuff listed in the bill anyway? That doesn't make much sense to me, senator.
3. State has job in ensuring educational standards are met just like it has job in ensuring factories aren't adding arsenic in food products.

[The Nihilistic view]

The reason I ask is because;

1) Private education can then become a good export.
2) The rich and powerful will send there children to foreign private schools such as in the UK, Switzerland and the US. This will be bad for our nation in the long run.
3) Its called private for a reason, the state don't get involved.

1) We're trying to ensure good education for kids, not trying to create a market in teachers.
2) Tough cheese for them.
3) Yeah, screw antitrust, consumer protection laws, etc because private means no government intervention!

1) You don't understand, children from other countries will come to the schools thus bringing in money to our economy. For example the Uk private education sector is worth £10 billion a year to their economy.
2) again you don't understand, Its not the sons of the rich and powerful that suffer but everybody else. I have no problem sending my children to school abroad and should this bill pass I will.
3) Education is not like other sectors, there are many ways of educating several I can think of the bill does not include and to force all schools to do it one way is moronic.

[The Nihilistic view]

I'll sponsor as well, and I second Senator Ainin's comment regarding no exemptions for private schools.

Added, and thanks.

The reason I ask is because;

1) Private education can then become a good export.
2) The rich and powerful will send there children to foreign private schools such as in the UK, Switzerland and the US. This will be bad for our nation in the long run.
3) Its called private for a reason, the state don't get involved.

1. Not meeting basic requirements set out in the bill will not make it good export, it will make it low-quality export.
2. So, they will send children to foreign schools where they will still be learning those stuff listed in the bill anyway? That doesn't make much sense to me, senator.
3. State has job in ensuring educational standards are met just like it has job in ensuring factories aren't adding arsenic in food products.

Take pre school for example, it goes against the accepted wisdom that its not a good idea to start teaching 3 year olds academic subjects.

[Great Nepal]

Take pre school for example, it goes against the accepted wisdom that its not a good idea to start teaching 3 year olds academic subjects.

It requires the subjects stated to be taught. Any pre-primary school will ensure that it is taught in a way that makes it enjoyable and non-formal experience teaching basic principles of the subject matter. There is a reason why there isn't an exam at end of it, senator.

[Great Nepal]

Guys, should I add system where an independent organisation is created to inspect school's curriculum so as to ensure it is factual and appropriate for year group while complying with Educational Framework Establishment Act?
I mean, I am kinda torn on this. On one had it opens possibility of political indoctrination on another it ensures better education if it is used in manner it is supposed to.

[Ainin]

Guys, should I add system where an independent organisation is created to inspect school's curriculum so as to ensure it is factual and appropriate for year group while complying with Educational Framework Establishment Act?
I mean, I am kinda torn on this. On one had it opens possibility of political indoctrination on another it ensures better education if it is used in manner it is supposed to.

I'd support the idea but the choice is up to you.

[The Nihilistic view]

Guys, should I add system where an independent organisation is created to inspect school's curriculum so as to ensure it is factual and appropriate for year group while complying with Educational Framework Establishment Act?
I mean, I am kinda torn on this. On one had it opens possibility of political indoctrination on another it ensures better education if it is used in manner it is supposed to.

If such an organisation is run by professors then it might be a good idea.

[Potenco]

Guys, should I add system where an independent organisation is created to inspect school's curriculum so as to ensure it is factual and appropriate for year group while complying with Educational Framework Establishment Act?
I mean, I am kinda torn on this. On one had it opens possibility of political indoctrination on another it ensures better education if it is used in manner it is supposed to.

If such an organisation is run by professors then it might be a good idea.

On the other hand, we cant have a system like Texas where hicks like this can take control of the content of classes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_and_Norma_Gabler

We shouldent get too screwy with curricula and allow independent schools to make as many decisions on their own as possible. We should also avoid giving this independent organisation too much power, because such outside interference will put pressure on schools to educate the children according to government preference and will ruin the academic experience much like standardized testing

[Regnum Dominae]

National Drug Safety Act
Urgency: Very High | Drafted by: Byzantium Imperial | Co-sponsors: The Zeonic States, Eliasonia, Liberated counties, The Orson Empire, Geilinor

NOTING that our nation has no formal drugs laws or regulations in place to protect the population from potentially hazardous substances

RECOGNIZING that there are many different drugs, many of which have medicinal proprieties, and that it would be illogical to ban most of them


THE Senate hereby creates a 3 part classification system for the regulation and control of drugs and other similar substances

Class 1 substances: Hard drugs, and other similar substances, which pose a great risk to society. These substances are banned
Class 2 substances: Medical and pharmaceutical substances, which a proven health benefit. The distribution of these shall be controlled
Class 3 substances: Soft drugs, alcohol, nicotine, and other similar substances that may have negative effects. These shall be subject to regulation

Section 1: Class 1 substances
1a: Class 1 substances include heroin, cocaine, non medical methanphedimenses, and other hard drugs.
1b: By the passing of this law, class 1 substances are now banned from Aurentinia for any uses other then scientific or authorized medical uses.
1c: The trafficking of class 1 substances, the production of class 1 substances, and the selling of class 1 substances is illegal, and punishable with a recommended minimum of 5 years, and a maximum of 15 years.
1d: The consumption of class 1 substances for any reason is illegal, and punishable with a maximum $5000 fine and a recommended minimum of 6 months in drug rehabilitation.
1e: Class 1 substances shall still be permitted to be sold to organizations, however, that show they are utilizing it for medical or scientific purposes, and acquire a Class 1 substance purchasing permit.

Section 2: Class 2 substances
2a: Class 2 substances shall be defined as any medical or pharmaceutical drug administered to patients.
2b: All Class 2 substances must be approved by the Ministry of Health before it is allowed to be sold or administered.
2c: Class 2 substances are only to be administered or distributed by licensed physicians, medical professionals, or pharmacists if given specific permission to do so by a medical professional. All certified medical professionals and licensed professionals may apply for a permit to administer or distribute Class 2 substances by prescription, and must be renewed every 5 years.
2d: Since all class 2 substances are controlled substances, any and all transactions involving class 2 substances must be recorded and inserted into a national substance database, which shall track and monitor all class 2 substance transactions. This ensures no class 2 substances are misplaced or stolen, and that only licensed professionals have access to them.
2e: Substances that are not Class 2 substances yet are medical or pharmaceutical drugs include: ibuprophen, Tylenol, topical ointments, and other similarly minor medical treatments that do not require prescription and can be sold over the counter.
2f: Breaking any rules, laws, or regulations pertaining to class 2 substances is punishable by a fine with a maximum of $5,000, and a prison sentence with a recommended minimum of 1 year, and a maximum of 10 years.
2g: Patients or individuals who partake in class 2 substances without a prescription shall be subject to a recommended minimum 6 months in drug rehabilitation.

Section 3: Class 3 substances
3a: Class 3 substances include marijuana, alcohol, nicotine, and other soft drugs.
3b: These substances are available to all citizens for recreational use starting at age 18.
3c: These substances may only be produced, distributed, and sold by authorized organizations or individuals who have obtained a permit. All groups that wish to obtain a permit for any of the above actions for class 3 substances must acquire a permit, with accompanying background checks, and are subject to inspections at will for violations. These permits shall be renewed every 10 years.
3d: Driving or operating machinery while under the influence of class 3 substances is punishable by fines of up to $1000, and on a second offense a revocation of driving or similar privileges. It shall be left to the ministry of health to determine the limits for driving or operating machinery under the influence.
3e: The illegal distribution, production, or selling of class 3 substances is punishable with a maximum $1000 fine and a recommended minimum 2 year prison sentence, with a maximum of 10 years.
3f: Alcohol may be consumed by minors, with parental consent, starting at age 14. Minors caught consuming class 3 substances other then alcohol, or consuming alcohol without parental consent or underage consumption, is punishable with a maximum 3 months in drug rehabilitation, and a recommended 12 hours of community service. Parents of minors caught in violation of these laws may be subject to a fine of up to $500, or if the parents assisted in the violations of these laws is subject to a recommended minimum 6 months of parenting classes, or a maximum of 6 months in prison.

Section 4: Ministry oversight
1. All matters relating to class 1 or class 2 substances are the responsibility of the Ministry of health, who may change, remove, or add substances and rules listed above at their digression. Which substances classify as class 3 substances shall also fall under the ministry of health.
2. All other matters pertaining to class 3 substances are to be managed by the Ministry of commerce, who may change rules and restrictions at their digression.
3. All fines and penalties fall under the responsibility of the ministry of justice, which may change these at their digression.

This is supposed to be a bill to implement basic substance restrictions, without limiting personal freedoms too much.

Opposed.

[Slazliyka]

I'd rather any legislation regarding drugs be focused not on restricting their use but on establishing programs to help people who suffer from addiction. Addiction needs to be treated as a public health problem rather than a criminal problem.