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Lemanrussland
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Postby Lemanrussland » Mon May 06, 2013 12:04 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Lemanrussland wrote:Opposed.

1) It's a parenting issue. Monitoring and deciding what a kid can watch or not is their responsibility.
2) This is an undue burden on the freedom of expression, and in the case of the internet, privacy (this is assuming you would understand what kind of measures we would need to take to make your blocking program work).

THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO DEBATE THIS.

Oh, sorry.

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Postby The Realm of God » Mon May 06, 2013 12:35 pm

Can one of the Admins please place the Small Business Assistance Act in the queue, it passed its five motions about 7 pages ago!
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Postby Ovisterra » Mon May 06, 2013 12:38 pm

Ragnarum wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
No it doesn't. In no country are they the same. In some countries, one actual job covers both roles, but nowhere are the two roles the same.


They both run the country, a prime minister is useless if a president is there already.


A prime minister is the head of the government, as in he/she is a member of parliament and legislates, and a president signs bills into law or vetoes them. They're different.
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon May 06, 2013 12:39 pm

The Castamere/Cardassia Act of Entertainment Quality Assurance (2013)


Urgency: Not that high - when you're over 900 years old and your ride is a T-40 you don't much care for the linear passage of time. Not that time is linear. Actually, from a non-linear, non subjective point of view it's more a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, spacey-wacey, humany-wumany stuff.

Drafted by: Senator Kouralia of the USLP

Co-Sponsors: Great Nepal, Britcan, Malgrave, Aenyswir, Lykosia and Agritum




ACKNOWLEDGING the state of this country's entertainment industry is horrific, as it goes ding when there's stuff.

NOTING that something must be done to fix this.

REALISING that Warp-Core-Ejection is not viable at this time.

UNDERSTANDING that the Nights are dark and full of Terrors.

THEREFORE the people of this nation need entertainment to keep them in those hours, though this line is really rather elementary.

REMAINING Sorry. So, so...Sorry.

RECOMMENDING that the following... Brilliant and Fantastic act be passed, despite the fact that you wouldn't know an act if it painted itself purple and danced naked upon a harpsichord singing 'Senate Acts are Here Again'.

MANDATING it be followed to the letter.



0:0 Definitions

This Act defines Doctor Who as both Classic and New Who, the Film, The Curse of Fatal Death, Sara Jane Adventures and Torchwood.
This Act defines Game of Thrones as all series of Game of Thrones produced in victory and in defeat, from this day until the last day.
This Act defines Star Trek as all TV and Film installments to the Universe.
This Act defines Blackadder as all series and the specials.
This Act defines Battlestar Galactica as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines Firefly as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines Sherlock as all relevant TV media.
This Act defines Community as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines NCIS as all relevant TV media.
This Act defines The Thick of It as all four series of The Thick of It and In The Loop.
This Act defines The Gundam Franchise as all relevant TV and Film media.

1: Requirement of Neutron-Flow Polarity-Reversal Programmes whose rights must be procured.
1:1 This act mandates that Doctor Who et al. be played on TV in our nation.
1:2 In order to facilitate this, the government must subsidise purchase of rights to play Doctor Who from BBC Wales.
1:3 Game of Thrones must be similarly subsidised.
1:4 Star Trek must be similarly subsidised.
1:5 Blackadder must be similarly subsidised.
1:6 Battlestar Galactica must be similarly subsidised.
1:7 Firefly must be similarly subsidised.
1:8 Sherlock must be similarly subsidised.
1:9 Community must be similarly subsidised.
1:10 NCIS must be similarly subsidised.
1:11 The Thick of It must be similarly subsidised.
1:12 The Gundam Franchise must be similarly subsidised.




I motion to add this to the queue.
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Mon May 06, 2013 12:41 pm

Kouralia wrote:
The Castamere/Cardassia Act of Entertainment Quality Assurance (2013)


Urgency: Not that high - when you're over 900 years old and your ride is a T-40 you don't much care for the linear passage of time. Not that time is linear. Actually, from a non-linear, non subjective point of view it's more a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, spacey-wacey, humany-wumany stuff.

Drafted by: Senator Kouralia of the USLP

Co-Sponsors: Great Nepal, Britcan, Malgrave, Aenyswir, Lykosia and Agritum




ACKNOWLEDGING the state of this country's entertainment industry is horrific, as it goes ding when there's stuff.

NOTING that something must be done to fix this.

REALISING that Warp-Core-Ejection is not viable at this time.

UNDERSTANDING that the Nights are dark and full of Terrors.

THEREFORE the people of this nation need entertainment to keep them in those hours, though this line is really rather elementary.

REMAINING Sorry. So, so...Sorry.

RECOMMENDING that the following... Brilliant and Fantastic act be passed, despite the fact that you wouldn't know an act if it painted itself purple and danced naked upon a harpsichord singing 'Senate Acts are Here Again'.

MANDATING it be followed to the letter.



0:0 Definitions
This Act defines Doctor Who as both Classic and New Who, the Film, The Curse of Fatal Death, Sara Jane Adventures and Torchwood.
This Act defines Game of Thrones as all series of Game of Thrones produced in victory and in defeat, from this day until the last day.
This Act defines Star Trek as all TV and Film installments to the Universe.
This Act defines Blackadder as all series and the specials.
This Act defines Battlestar Galactica as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines Firefly as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines Sherlock as all relevant TV media.
This Act defines Community as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines NCIS as all relevant TV media.
This Act defines The Thick of It as all four series of The Thick of It and In The Loop.
This Act defines The Gundam Franchise as all relevant TV and Film media.

1:0 Requirement of Neutron-Flow Polarity-Reversal Programmes whose rights must be procured.
1:1 This act mandates that Doctor Who et al. be played on TV in our nation.
1:2 In order to facilitate this, the government must subsidise purchase of rights to play Doctor Who from BBC Wales.
1:3 Game of Thrones must be similarly subsidised.
1:4 Star Trek must be similarly subsidised.
1:5 Blackadder must be similarly subsidised.
1:6 Battlestar Galactica must be similarly subsidised.
1:7 Firefly must be similarly subsidised.
1:8 Sherlock must be similarly subsidised.
1:9 Community must be similarly subsidised.
1:10 NCIS must be similarly subsidised.
1:11 The Thick of It must be similarly subsidised.
1:12 The Gundam Franchise must be similarly subsidised.




I motion to add this to the queue.

Second.
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Postby Ovisterra » Mon May 06, 2013 12:42 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Kouralia wrote:
The Castamere/Cardassia Act of Entertainment Quality Assurance (2013)


Urgency: Not that high - when you're over 900 years old and your ride is a T-40 you don't much care for the linear passage of time. Not that time is linear. Actually, from a non-linear, non subjective point of view it's more a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, spacey-wacey, humany-wumany stuff.

Drafted by: Senator Kouralia of the USLP

Co-Sponsors: Great Nepal, Britcan, Malgrave, Aenyswir, Lykosia and Agritum




ACKNOWLEDGING the state of this country's entertainment industry is horrific, as it goes ding when there's stuff.

NOTING that something must be done to fix this.

REALISING that Warp-Core-Ejection is not viable at this time.

UNDERSTANDING that the Nights are dark and full of Terrors.

THEREFORE the people of this nation need entertainment to keep them in those hours, though this line is really rather elementary.

REMAINING Sorry. So, so...Sorry.

RECOMMENDING that the following... Brilliant and Fantastic act be passed, despite the fact that you wouldn't know an act if it painted itself purple and danced naked upon a harpsichord singing 'Senate Acts are Here Again'.

MANDATING it be followed to the letter.



0:0 Definitions
This Act defines Doctor Who as both Classic and New Who, the Film, The Curse of Fatal Death, Sara Jane Adventures and Torchwood.
This Act defines Game of Thrones as all series of Game of Thrones produced in victory and in defeat, from this day until the last day.
This Act defines Star Trek as all TV and Film installments to the Universe.
This Act defines Blackadder as all series and the specials.
This Act defines Battlestar Galactica as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines Firefly as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines Sherlock as all relevant TV media.
This Act defines Community as all relevant TV and Film media.
This Act defines NCIS as all relevant TV media.
This Act defines The Thick of It as all four series of The Thick of It and In The Loop.
This Act defines The Gundam Franchise as all relevant TV and Film media.

1:0 Requirement of Neutron-Flow Polarity-Reversal Programmes whose rights must be procured.
1:1 This act mandates that Doctor Who et al. be played on TV in our nation.
1:2 In order to facilitate this, the government must subsidise purchase of rights to play Doctor Who from BBC Wales.
1:3 Game of Thrones must be similarly subsidised.
1:4 Star Trek must be similarly subsidised.
1:5 Blackadder must be similarly subsidised.
1:6 Battlestar Galactica must be similarly subsidised.
1:7 Firefly must be similarly subsidised.
1:8 Sherlock must be similarly subsidised.
1:9 Community must be similarly subsidised.
1:10 NCIS must be similarly subsidised.
1:11 The Thick of It must be similarly subsidised.
1:12 The Gundam Franchise must be similarly subsidised.




I motion to add this to the queue.

Second.


Third.
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Britcan
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Postby Britcan » Mon May 06, 2013 12:42 pm

Ovisterra wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Second.


Third.

Forthed

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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Mon May 06, 2013 12:43 pm

Britcan wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Third.

Forthed


Fifthed.

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Central Africa
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Postby Central Africa » Mon May 06, 2013 12:44 pm

Fifthed.
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Mon May 06, 2013 12:46 pm

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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Mon May 06, 2013 1:32 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Othelos wrote:I think a better thing to do would set each piece of legislation up with its own debate thread. That'd keep some of the chaos down, and it wouldn't screw up voting, etc.

We can already debate it in coffee shop... and I dont see how it can screw up voting because every senator can just vote in indivudal bills. Can we move to suspend parliamentary procedure and allow voting at all bills simultaneously?

The last debates screwed up voting because people didn't specify what they were voting on, so at least two votes ended up in limbo.

And if it's debated in the coffee shop, idc. But when things are being on debated here that's not officially being debated on/up for vote, it gets messy and annoying.

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Geilinor
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Postby Geilinor » Mon May 06, 2013 5:01 pm

Othelos wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:We can already debate it in coffee shop... and I dont see how it can screw up voting because every senator can just vote in indivudal bills. Can we move to suspend parliamentary procedure and allow voting at all bills simultaneously?

The last debates screwed up voting because people didn't specify what they were voting on, so at least two votes ended up in limbo.

And if it's debated in the coffee shop, idc. But when things are being on debated here that's not officially being debated on/up for vote, it gets messy and annoying.

I agree. People will get confused unless we strictly restrict the chambers to voting.
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Irredento
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Postby Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 5:34 pm

The Realm of God wrote:Can one of the Admins please place the Small Business Assistance Act in the queue, it passed its five motions about 7 pages ago!

Could you add me as a co-sponsor on that also?

I would have asked earlier but I actually hadn't noticed it until now.

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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Mon May 06, 2013 5:44 pm

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Mon May 06, 2013 5:47 pm

Could you please add the Public Education Act (page 11) to queue? The motion received enough seconds.
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The Realm of God
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Postby The Realm of God » Mon May 06, 2013 5:47 pm



Small Business Assistance Act.

Drafted by: The Realm of God (Progressive Conservative)

Co-Sponsored by: New Freedomstan (USLP.), Radiatia (Progressive Conservative), Beta Test (Liberal Democrat), Royalsoldiers (CFE), Zweite Alaje (NIFP)

RECOGNISES that this nation has no agency or support system for small business.

UNDERSTANDS that small business is often a life line for those who want to better their lives and provide for their family.

OBSERVES that starting a small business is often expensive and out of reach for most of our poorest.

THIS Act hereby establishes the Small Business Assistance Office.

THE Small Business Assistance Office is empowered to....

Provide low interest loans of up to £1,000,000 at a 2% APR for those who wish to start a small business. The Office can review each application on a case by case basis.

Offer free business advice.

Help register a business.

A small business is hereby defined as an unincorporated or private limited business which earns less than (Provisional Currency)1,000,000, a year. Owners must not have been declared bankrupt.

VALID forms of organisation include.

Unincorporated Sole Propriater.

Partnerships (both traditional and limited)

Cooperatives (Worker owned businesses)

Privately Held Corporations (A Limited Liability Company that keeps it's shares in the hands of family or friends of the owner).

SMALL business owners must provide a decent working wage for their workers, 90% of national average within the first two years of operation.

.............

This passed the five vote limit.
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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Mon May 06, 2013 5:49 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:Could you please add the Public Education Act (page 11) to queue? The motion received enough seconds.

LINK. IT. FOR. GOD'S. SAKE.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Greater Pokarnia
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Mon May 06, 2013 5:50 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Greater Pokarnia wrote:Could you please add the Public Education Act (page 11) to queue? The motion received enough seconds.

LINK. IT. FOR. GOD'S. SAKE.

Public Education Act
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Silent Majority
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Postby Silent Majority » Mon May 06, 2013 5:50 pm

The Treorai wrote:
CURRENTLY UNDER DEBATE
Business and Accountability Act


Considering that we don't seem to be actually discussing this bill, I motion to close debate and move into voting
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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Mon May 06, 2013 5:51 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
The Treorai wrote:
CURRENTLY UNDER DEBATE
Business and Accountability Act


Considering that we don't seem to be actually discussing this bill this, I motion to close debate and move into voting


I oppose. Give me five minutes, please. >. >

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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Mon May 06, 2013 5:52 pm

GOD-KING OF ABRASIVENESS

Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby The Republic of Pantalleria » Mon May 06, 2013 6:21 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Britcan wrote:I move to add this to the queue.

I am against said move.

Well currently I see no fault in the National Firearms Act therefore I am for it.
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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Mon May 06, 2013 6:28 pm

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Irredento
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Postby Irredento » Mon May 06, 2013 6:29 pm

The Republic of Pantalleria wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:I am against said move.

Well currently I see no fault in the National Firearms Act therefore I am for it.

It will instigate a civil war. This seems like a good reason to oppose it to me.

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The Treorai
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Postby The Treorai » Mon May 06, 2013 6:30 pm

GOD-KING OF ABRASIVENESS

Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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