Healthcare question for Americans.

[Hairless Kitten II]

I’ve a healthcare question for Americans.

On Belgian TV they said that 50 million (!) Americans do not have any healthcare insurance at all. Even more people their insurance is not adequate, when they would get serious sick or get a critical injury then they would be in deep, very deep, financial troubles.
From all industrialised countries, USA is the only one with no nationwide healthcare plan for all its citizen.

If these figures and statements are true, then it is from a social view horrible. 50 million people, which is more than the complete population of Spain, this isn’t serious anymore.

The Belgian TV also added that the total healthcare cost for the government isn’t cheaper as in the European countries which have a full healthcare program for all.

So in short an enormous amount of people is not protected and even more are weak insured while the government costs are higher as in Europe.

If this news headline is true and I have few doubts it isn’t (Belgian VRT news, it’s not like Fox, is a very reliable source), why are so many Americans against a system that will cover all people and is at the same time cheaper as the current healthcare protection plan?

I know a few Americans that live and work in Belgium and without any exception they adore our system. They are insured here and thus when they become ill or injured they are protected by the Belgian system. Getting sick is almost a fest for them, because they just have to pay a few Euros for all medical services.

So, why are Americans in America against a lucid improvement for the individual and for all?

[No Names Left Damn It]

So, why are Americans in America against a lucid improvement for the individual and for all?

Because it's filthy evil Communism, propagated by baby eating leftists. (Yes, I am looking at you Ashmoria.)

[Desperate Measures]

Because then the Russians have won by bringing in their red communism.

[Conserative Morality]

I know a few Americans that live and work in Belgium and without any exception they adore our system. They are insured here and thus when they become ill or injured they are protected by the Belgian system. Getting sick is almost a fest for them, because they just have to pay a few Euros for all medical services.

Without any exception? I find that hard to believe.

So, why are Americans in America against a lucid improvement for the individual and for all?

We have no faith in our government.

[Hairless Kitten II]

So, why are Americans in America against a lucid improvement for the individual and for all?

Because it's filthy evil Communism, propagated by baby eating leftists. (Yes, I am looking at you Ashmoria.)

So the entire industrialized world, with exception of USA, is communist?

[Fergula]

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[Hairless Kitten II]

I know a few Americans that live and work in Belgium and without any exception they adore our system. They are insured here and thus when they become ill or injured they are protected by the Belgian system. Getting sick is almost a fest for them, because they just have to pay a few Euros for all medical services.

Without any exception? I find that hard to believe.

So, why are Americans in America against a lucid improvement for the individual and for all?

We have no faith in our government.

Without the exception. If you are an American working abroad and turn ill in countries like Belgium, The Netherlands, France, UK or Germany and others, then you're glad you are not inside USA.

[Conserative Morality]

So the entire industrialized world, with exception of USA, is communist?

No. There are some evil socialists, fascists, and third-world shitholes too. That was all in jest.

[Fergula]

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[United Russian State]

They are trillions of dollars in debt. They have bigger issues to deal with than healthcare. In fact if anything they will have to downsize it.

[Conserative Morality]

Without the exception. If you are an American working abroad and turn ill in countries like Belgium, The Netherlands, France, UK or Germany and others, then you're glad you are not inside USA.

I would be willing to bet that there are those who oppose it in those countries. There is no such thing as support 'Without exception'. And, almost without argument, the rich certainly get better health coverage over here.

[P4tr10t]

Its not like we're against the idea of national heathcare system, its just that Obama's plan for one sucks :/

[No Names Left Damn It]

So the entire industrialized world, with exception of USA, is communist?

Or socialist. Filthy scum. I'm ashamed to live in the UK, what with our crazy ideas that people who need healthcare actually get it and etc.

[Bergnovinaia]

So the entire industrialized world, with exception of USA, is communist?

The whole world is not communist just becuase of nationalized healthcare. Communism is more than that. Communism is when nations control the economy, control production (ruining free enterprise), and control wages. National Healthcare in America would be great becuase if would dramatically reuduce poverty. For example, a friend of mine broke his leg rock climbing and went to the hospital. He didn't have insurance so the bill was over $10,000. For people like him it literally breaks the bank. National Healthcare would also make it cheaper for those who have insurance plans.

[Ashmoria]

I’ve a healthcare question for Americans.

On Belgian TV they said that 50 million (!) Americans do not have any healthcare insurance at all. Even more people their insurance is not adequate, when they would get serious sick or get a critical injury then they would be in deep, very deep, financial troubles.
From all industrialised countries, USA is the only one with no nationwide healthcare plan for all its citizen.

If these figures and statements are true, then it is from a social view horrible. 50 million people, which is more than the complete population of Spain, this isn’t serious anymore.

The Belgian TV also added that the total healthcare cost for the government isn’t cheaper as in the European countries which have a full healthcare program for all.

So in short an enormous amount of people is not protected and even more are weak insured while the government costs are higher as in Europe.

If this news headline is true and I have few doubts it isn’t (Belgian VRT news, it’s not like Fox, is a very reliable source), why are so many Americans against a system that will cover all people and is at the same time cheaper as the current healthcare protection plan?

I know a few Americans that live and work in Belgium and without any exception they adore our system. They are insured here and thus when they become ill or injured they are protected by the Belgian system. Getting sick is almost a fest for them, because they just have to pay a few Euros for all medical services.

So, why are Americans in America against a lucid improvement for the individual and for all?

50million americans is about 16% of our population. not a GOOD number but not unexpected for coverage of anything.

50million americans dont have health insurance. that doesnt mean they get no care. they pay out of pocket for small things (mostly they dont get small things treated) and if it is an emergency they get treatment even if they cant pay.

its not a good thing but no one is left to die on the street because they have no way to pay for a trip to the hospital (leaving out horror stories of abuse of the system that happen in every country)

the american people DO want this fixed. millions more people have lost health insurance due to unemployment. everyone knows someone without coverage. what we are afraid of is that "reform" will end up being some kind of trick that costs us more money and gives us less health care. its hard to trust politicians who have sold out to lobbyists many times in the past.

[The_pantless_hero]

Without any exception? I find that hard to believe.

You find it hard to believe that people would prefer paying pocket change for medical treatment?

[Poliwanacraca]

Because people are selfish. Most of the people opposed to some form of universal health care are the ones who are already well-covered by their insurance.

[Desperate Measures]

So the entire industrialized world, with exception of USA, is communist?

The whole world is not communist just becuase of nationalized healthcare. Communism is more than that. Communism is when nations control the economy, control production (ruining free enterprise), and control wages. National Healthcare in America would be great becuase if would dramatically reuduce poverty. For example, a friend of mine broke his leg rock climbing and went to the hospital. He didn't have insurance so the bill was over $10,000. For people like him it literally breaks the bank. National Healthcare would also make it cheaper for those who have insurance plans.

Communism = government control of the health care system. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Bergnovinaia]

Because people are selfish. Most of the people opposed to some form of universal health care are the ones who are already well-covered by their insurance.

Yes and extremly wealthy people and doctors who have to pay the bill.

[Conserative Morality]

You find it hard to believe that people would prefer paying pocket change for medical treatment?

I find it hard to believe that there is no opposition to the system over there. It doesn't matter what it is, you always have a group, even a small one, opposing it. There is no such thing as having a large group of people adoring a system "Without exception".

[The_pantless_hero]

You find it hard to believe that people would prefer paying pocket change for medical treatment?

I find it hard to believe that there is no opposition to the system over there. It doesn't matter what it is, you always have a group, even a small one, opposing it. There is no such thing as having a large group of people adoring a system "Without exception".

Define large group and provide the average number of people in that country opposed to their healthcare system.

[Tekania]

Indeed, I think the Obama National Healthcare is only taking on one side of a two side issue.... There is nothing to control rising medical costs...

Providing Health Care to the poor still does not resolve private medicine charging exorbitant rates...

Looking over line-items of expenditures of an emergency room visit, you'll find that $2.00 ace bandage will cost you $40.00 and you'll be charged $5.00 for EACH tablet of aspin/ibuprophen/acetominophen they give you... an ice pack will run you roughly $60.00... and this is on top of the "hourly" charges for the medical professionals who treat you... In short, they will give you $6.00 worth of medical materials, and charge you over $100.00...

[Rhodmhire]

i]So, why are Americans in America against a lucid improvement for the individual and for all? [/i]

I don't trust the American government to run many things.

[TheOutlands (Ancient)]

Because people are selfish. Most of the people opposed to some form of universal health care are the ones who are already well-covered by their insurance.

well no people apposed to universal health care are considering a great scope none seems to remember whos paying for this stuff any more. Obama thinks it coming off the "rich" in his plan i'm consider rich because an my family small shop falls in the same category as wawa the cost of projects like this cripple the middle class and small business

[No Names Left Damn It]

Because people are selfish. Most of the people opposed to some form of universal health care are the ones who are already well-covered by their insurance.

Commie talk. If you aren't covered by insurance, it's because you're lazy or you just don't want insurance.