by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:23 pm
by Galloism » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:31 pm
by Mike the Progressive » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:32 pm
by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:32 pm
Galloism wrote:Is this some attempt to make us feel sorry for animals and stuff?
by Galloism » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:34 pm
by Ex-Brogavia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:35 pm
Natapoc wrote:Imagine a business which allowed sportsmen to hunt people who have agreed to have the job of being "the hunted"
The hunter is given hunting rifle with 1 bullet, a horse, and a pack of bloodhounds.
5 employees of the ranch have signed papers agreeing to be "the hunted", they are to be dropped off naked in the middle of the property which is 40 miles in diameter, unable to escape with a 4 hour head start on the hunter who paid for this opportunity.
Included in employment contract signed by the employee is the usual legal disclaimer about waving all rights to sue the ranch or the sportsman for loss of life or limb or physical or mental impairment or any other damages that may result from the job they are about to preform.
The employees were told after their interview that 1 of them will die (assuming the hunt is successful, which, like most canned hunts, it nearly always is) and the rest will be paid but of course they focus on the salary that the 4 survivors will get.
For the sportsmen the game is to outsmart the employees and bag one of them, If he manages to kill an employee he may do whatever he likes with the body including collect trophies but he must use one bullet to make his kill.
by Mike the Progressive » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:36 pm
by Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:38 pm
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by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:39 pm
Ex-Brogavia wrote:(snip)
by Barringtonia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:39 pm
Ex-Brogavia wrote:Roughly 1250 square miles to hide in. The guy only has one bullet, a horse, and a pack of bloodhounds? Seems fair to me. I would give myself good odds.
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Always read the fine print when it comes to disclaimers and waivers, anyone who doesn't deserves what fate the fine print sentanced them to. And on 1250 sqaure miles, I wouldn't say its a canned hunt.
by Mongolian Khanate » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:39 pm
by Ex-Brogavia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:45 pm
by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:46 pm
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Seems totally fine to me, but anyone in their right mind would choose slavery first, unless the pay was really good.
Also, fuck trophies, I'd eat them fuckers.
by Ex-Brogavia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:47 pm
Natapoc wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Seems totally fine to me, but anyone in their right mind would choose slavery first, unless the pay was really good.
Also, fuck trophies, I'd eat them fuckers.
Would you answer differently for any of the questions asked? What about the "self defense" case?
To quote myself:"Now to turn the tables, one of the hunted humans hides in a tree with a large sharpened stick and as the hunter nears hurls the stick into the neck of the hunter killing the hunter.
The employee claims self defense. Is this a valid claim by the employee? "
by The Parkus Empire » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:47 pm
Ex-Brogavia wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Would it make any difference to you if the area of the property was significantly smaller? Would any of the other questions in the OP (such as children or indentured servants or the self defense case) provide any exceptions?
Children are unable to sign legal contracts, same with indentured servants. Killing them would be murder regardless. If our good friend Nixon and I had a contract that said, if the Chicago Cubs sweep the world series next year, I get to kill him. If he agrees to such a contract, and the Cubs sweep the World Series, then yes, I would be morally able to kill him.
by Barringtonia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:48 pm
Natapoc wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Seems totally fine to me, but anyone in their right mind would choose slavery first, unless the pay was really good.
Also, fuck trophies, I'd eat them fuckers.
Would you answer differently for any of the questions asked? What about the "self defense" case?
To quote myself:"Now to turn the tables, one of the hunted humans hides in a tree with a large sharpened stick and as the hunter nears hurls the stick into the neck of the hunter killing the hunter.
The employee claims self defense. Is this a valid claim by the employee? "
by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:49 pm
Ex-Brogavia wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Would you answer differently for any of the questions asked? What about the "self defense" case?
To quote myself:"Now to turn the tables, one of the hunted humans hides in a tree with a large sharpened stick and as the hunter nears hurls the stick into the neck of the hunter killing the hunter.
The employee claims self defense. Is this a valid claim by the employee? "
Yes. The hunter would also have to sign some sort of contract stating that the prey has the right to defend itself.
by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:50 pm
Ex-Brogavia wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Would it make any difference to you if the area of the property was significantly smaller? Would any of the other questions in the OP (such as children or indentured servants or the self defense case) provide any exceptions?
Children are unable to sign legal contracts, same with indentured servants. Killing them would be murder regardless. If our good friend Nixon and I had a contract that said, if the Chicago Cubs sweep the world series next year, I get to kill him. If he agrees to such a contract, and the Cubs sweep the World Series, then yes, I would be morally able to kill him.
by Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:51 pm
Natapoc wrote:Lackadaisical2 wrote:Seems totally fine to me, but anyone in their right mind would choose slavery first, unless the pay was really good.
Also, fuck trophies, I'd eat them fuckers.
Would you answer differently for any of the questions asked? What about the "self defense" case?
To quote myself:"Now to turn the tables, one of the hunted humans hides in a tree with a large sharpened stick and as the hunter nears hurls the stick into the neck of the hunter killing the hunter.
The employee claims self defense. Is this a valid claim by the employee? "
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by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:51 pm
Barringtonia wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Would you answer differently for any of the questions asked? What about the "self defense" case?
To quote myself:"Now to turn the tables, one of the hunted humans hides in a tree with a large sharpened stick and as the hunter nears hurls the stick into the neck of the hunter killing the hunter.
The employee claims self defense. Is this a valid claim by the employee? "
Self-defense according to what, unless this right is stipulated in the contract then no, he doesn't have that right to claim.
by Ex-Brogavia » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:51 pm
Natapoc wrote:Ex-Brogavia wrote:
Yes. The hunter would also have to sign some sort of contract stating that the prey has the right to defend itself.
Right but in this version of events the hunter did not sign any such document saying he agreed to the right of the prey to defend itself. Would it still be okay?
by Natapoc » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:52 pm
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Natapoc wrote:
Would you answer differently for any of the questions asked? What about the "self defense" case?
To quote myself:"Now to turn the tables, one of the hunted humans hides in a tree with a large sharpened stick and as the hunter nears hurls the stick into the neck of the hunter killing the hunter.
The employee claims self defense. Is this a valid claim by the employee? "
Depends entirely on the contract, does the employee waive his right to self defense in the contract?
by Lackadaisical2 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:52 pm
Natapoc wrote:Ex-Brogavia wrote:
Children are unable to sign legal contracts, same with indentured servants. Killing them would be murder regardless. If our good friend Nixon and I had a contract that said, if the Chicago Cubs sweep the world series next year, I get to kill him. If he agrees to such a contract, and the Cubs sweep the World Series, then yes, I would be morally able to kill him.
You must be against all child labor then. Not all right-libertarians are.
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