Government paid for Birth Control USA only please

[UCUMAY]

There is an attempt to make birth control for women free and paid for by the government. I personally like it. It gives lower income women/ younger teenage women a way to better protect themselves, reduce medical expense, and keep their kids off our wellfare system.

What do you all think though? I know I'm biased but I would like your opinions.

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Edit: added poll

[Faith Hope Charity]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices? I think not. If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome. If you cant afford the outcome, you shouldnt be doing it. But i guess simple logic doesnt prevail anymore.

I don't know anyone in the US thats so poor that they cant afford a condom... sorry.

[UCUMAY]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices? I think not. If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome. If you cant afford the outcome, you shouldnt be doing it. But i guess simple logic doesnt prevail anymore.

I don't know anyone in the US thats so poor that they cant afford a condom... sorry.

Condoms do break. Birth control would be a nice back up.

[Ascelonia]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices? I think not. If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome. If you cant afford the outcome, you shouldnt be doing it. But i guess simple logic doesnt prevail anymore.

I don't know anyone in the US thats so poor that they cant afford a condom... sorry.

Or you can engage in anal intercourse.

[The Norwegian Blue]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices? I think not. If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome. If you cant afford the outcome, you shouldnt be doing it. But i guess simple logic doesnt prevail anymore.

I don't know anyone in the US thats so poor that they cant afford a condom... sorry.

Out of curiosity, how many people do you know who can make sure that when they get raped, the rapist wears a condom? Because given the sheer number of women who will, at some point in their lives, have the choice about whether or not to have sex forcibly taken away from them, it's a bit stupid to pretend that this issue is solely about being "responsible enough to make decisions."

[Rokartian States]

My decision depends on the cost such a policy would incur.

If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome.

This is utterly false.

[UCUMAY]

My decision depends on the cost such a policy would incur.
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I could understand that concern.

[Kobeanare]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices? I think not. If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome. If you cant afford the outcome, you shouldnt be doing it. But i guess simple logic doesnt prevail anymore.

I don't know anyone in the US thats so poor that they cant afford a condom... sorry.

Out of curiosity, how many people do you know who can make sure that when they get raped, the rapist wears a condom? Because given the sheer number of women who will, at some point in their lives, have the choice about whether or not to have sex forcibly taken away from them, it's a bit stupid to pretend that this issue is solely about being "responsible enough to make decisions."

Which also ignores that there may well be women who are not sexually active and thus see no need for birth control, who just happen to be raped. It's not really relevant.

[UCUMAY]

Which also ignores that there may well be women who are not sexually active and thus see no need for birth control, who just happen to be raped. It's not really relevant.

There is emergency contraception for that aka "plan B".

[Faith Hope Charity]

My decision depends on the cost such a policy would incur.

If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome.

This is utterly false.

i'm guessing a better way to word it is if you make a decision, you assume responsibility for it.. no one else made the decision, except for you, so therefore it is yours to hold. but i'm guessing you understand that anyway.

[Nazistisches Reich]

I say its good idea, considering it will help to prevent teenage mothers and then in return reduce the number of people relying on welfare which will leave more money in the tax payers pockets. Its for this reason I only care and agree with it but other than that like caring for the womans health or somthing benefeiting the woman I could give a shit about considering its her dumb ass who got pregnant.

[Lunas Verde]

I say its good idea, considering it will help to prevent teenage mothers and then in return reduce the number of people relying on welfare which will leave moe money in the tax payers pockets. Its for this reason I only care and agree with it but other than that like caring for the womans health or somthing benefeiting the woman I could give a shit about considering its her dumb ass who got pregnant.

And it's not the fault of the dumb ass man who got her pregnant? Men do have birth control options, you know...

[Faith Hope Charity]

I say its good idea, considering it will help to prevent teenage mothers and then in return reduce the number of people relying on welfare which will leave moe money in the tax payers pockets. Its for this reason I only care and agree with it but other than that like caring for the womans health or somthing benefeiting the woman I could give a shit about considering its her dumb ass who got pregnant.

And it's not the fault of the dumb ass man who got her pregnant? Men do have birth control options, you know...

All i can say is it takes 2... both are equally responsible.. ultimately..

[Nazistisches Reich]

I say its good idea, considering it will help to prevent teenage mothers and then in return reduce the number of people relying on welfare which will leave moe money in the tax payers pockets. Its for this reason I only care and agree with it but other than that like caring for the womans health or somthing benefeiting the woman I could give a shit about considering its her dumb ass who got pregnant.

And it's not the fault of the dumb ass man who got her pregnant? Men do have birth control options, you know...

Yeah but the woman could have made him used a condom and if she doesnt like condoms the she should use birth control rather than trust he will pullout in time.

[Faith Hope Charity]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices? I think not. If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome. If you cant afford the outcome, you shouldnt be doing it. But i guess simple logic doesnt prevail anymore.

I don't know anyone in the US thats so poor that they cant afford a condom... sorry.

Out of curiosity, how many people do you know who can make sure that when they get raped, the rapist wears a condom? Because given the sheer number of women who will, at some point in their lives, have the choice about whether or not to have sex forcibly taken away from them, it's a bit stupid to pretend that this issue is solely about being "responsible enough to make decisions."

so... using your logic.. every woman should be on birth control.. out of paranoia of rape? wth are you talking about.. and what does that say about the average citizen, both male and female, if such a thing ever came to pass?

[Yootwopia]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices?

Seeing as we pay well over the odds for completely bullshit stuff like sticking bombs up third-world countries, I'd have thought that making sure people had reasonably good sexual health and weren't having children they can't afford was well within the capability of central government.

[Lunas Verde]

And it's not the fault of the dumb ass man who got her pregnant? Men do have birth control options, you know...

Yeah but the woman could have made him used a condom and if she doesnt like condoms the she should use birth control rather than trust he will pullout in time.

Yeah, but the man could have convinced her not to or claimed he had a different form of birth control and if he didn't then he should just not have porked her. It works both ways, dude. Both parties had a hand in it, so both parties are responsible (except in the case of rape or coercion).

[UCUMAY]

There are male hormone birth control options slated in the near future. (5 or so years.) I think that should be covered too under this birth control petition.

[Lunas Verde]

Out of curiosity, how many people do you know who can make sure that when they get raped, the rapist wears a condom? Because given the sheer number of women who will, at some point in their lives, have the choice about whether or not to have sex forcibly taken away from them, it's a bit stupid to pretend that this issue is solely about being "responsible enough to make decisions."

so... using your logic.. every woman should be on birth control.. out of paranoia of rape? wth are you talking about.. and what does that say about the average citizen, both male and female, if such a thing ever came to pass?

Actually, I know several women who use birth control out of paranoia of rape. Considering that 27 sexual assaults are reported on this campus every week, I'm not suprised. If I could afford it, I would too.

[Faith Hope Charity]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices?

Seeing as we pay well over the odds for completely bullshit stuff like sticking bombs up third-world countries, I'd have thought that making sure people had reasonably good sexual health and weren't having children they can't afford was well within the capability of central government.

agreed.. thats why im all for noninterventionism... lol. I'm sorry, its not the government's job to be nanny of your sex life... its yours, pure and simple. If you give the government intervention in that regard, what other laws and restrictions are they going to put on you regarding sex? (they do like to do that.. here! have this perk! now what are you going to let us do to you in order to get it?)

[Yootwopia]

Seeing as we pay well over the odds for completely bullshit stuff like sticking bombs up third-world countries, I'd have thought that making sure people had reasonably good sexual health and weren't having children they can't afford was well within the capability of central government.

agreed.. thats why im all for noninterventionism... lol. I'm sorry, its not the government's job to be nanny of your sex life... its yours, pure and simple. If you give the government intervention in that regard, what other laws and restrictions are they going to put on you regarding sex? (they do like to do that.. here! have this perk! now what are you going to let us do to you in order to get it?)

I'm sorry but that position is retarded like Jordan's baby. I'm not asking for the government to wade in and say "nothing up the chuff on Tuesdays", this is more along the lines of being able to go to the pharmacy and get johnnies for free.

[There is no cow level]

So the taxpayer should support someone else's personal (possibly bad) sexual choices? I think not. If you are responsible enough to make the decision, you are responsible enough to deal with the outcome. If you cant afford the outcome, you shouldnt be doing it. But i guess simple logic doesnt prevail anymore.

I don't know anyone in the US thats so poor that they cant afford a condom... sorry.

So not giving women free birth control so that the ones who can't even afford it can have sex makes sense? You know Walgreens doesn't prosecute people who are caught shoplifting condoms because they have the mindset that if someone can't afford condoms then they sure can't afford to raise a kid. A woman should not be forced to have a kid just because she likes sex minus the feel of latex. And even with a condom, it's not guaranteed to work.

But sure keep bitching about not wanting your tax money to go to underprivileged females so that they can do what most of the young-adult and up population do without consequence. I'm sure you'll be glad to have even more of your tax dollar used to help raise the children of those underprivileged females who were forced to go on welfare because someone didn't want a program to help them out.

[Odessaden]

There is an attempt to make birth control for women free and paid for by the government. I personally like it. It gives lower income women/ younger teenage women a way to better protect themselves, reduce medical expense, and keep their kids off our wellfare system.

What do you all think though? I know I'm biased but I would like your opinions.

Check out the spoiler to help make free birth control happen.

https://secure.ppaction.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=12083

America can hardly afford its own medicare debt - would not it first regulate its finances and then push from there? I highly doubt that no one though about this proposal.

[Jostedule]

More bullshit paid for by hardworking responsible taxpayers, good ol USA.

[Faith Hope Charity]

agreed.. thats why im all for noninterventionism... lol. I'm sorry, its not the government's job to be nanny of your sex life... its yours, pure and simple. If you give the government intervention in that regard, what other laws and restrictions are they going to put on you regarding sex? (they do like to do that.. here! have this perk! now what are you going to let us do to you in order to get it?)

I'm sorry but that position is retarded like Jordan's baby. I'm not asking for the government to wade in and say "nothing up the chuff on Tuesdays", this is more along the lines of being able to go to the pharmacy and get johnnies for free.

TANSTAAFL.