How would a Communist society look like?

[Arilando]

How would it work on a daily basis? Who would make the laws and who would enforce them? How would the economy be Managed? How would you get food and electricity?

I have tried to find the answers to these questions but it seems like people who call themselves Communist can never answer them. But since they advocate Communism, they should know how a Communist society would work. Any communist out there who can answer my questions?

[Esternial]

The prefect Communist society only exists in theory. Practically, it's impossible.

[Notodonta ziczac]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

[Esternial]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

Well, if your society was composed of five people, communism would be quite viable

[Arilando]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

I mean Pure Communism.

[Notodonta ziczac]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

I mean Pure Communism.

which is? because according to wikipedia you could be talking about any of the following:

Marxism
Leninism
Trotskyism
Maoism
Left communism
Luxemburgism
Council communism
Titoism
Stalinism
Castroism
Guevarism
Hoxhaism
Anarchist communism
Religious communism
Christian communism
Eurocommunism
World communism
Stateless communism
National communism

[Glorious Homeland]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

Well, if your society was composed of five people, communism would be quite viable

Scale is never an issue, if corruption takes place it'll take place between 5 people and between 1 billion. For instance.

[Wamitoria]

I mean Pure Communism.

which is?

Impossible?

[Notodonta ziczac]

Impossible?

some on the list i just edited in arent impossible. stalinism for example

[Arilando]

I mean Pure Communism.

which is? because according to wikipedia you could be talking about any of the following:

Marxism
Leninism
Trotskyism
Maoism
Left communism
Luxemburgism
Council communism · Titoism
Stalinism
Castroism
Guevarism
Hoxhaism
Anarchist communism
Religious communism
Christian communism
Eurocommunism
World communism
Stateless communism
National communism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_communism

[Lunatic Goofballs]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

I mean Pure Communism.

[Esternial]

I mean Pure Communism.

*does not compute*

[Ashmoria]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

I mean Pure Communism.

you would have to specify exactly what you mean by pure communism.

if it is "workers control the means of production" then there would be no non-working owners. all businesses would be owned by those who work in them. perhaps everything else would be the same.

[Ascelonia]

either death and chaos or secret police and bread lines, depending which type you mean

Well, if your society was composed of five people, communism would be quite viable

I believe that's communalism.

[Notodonta ziczac]

you would have to specify exactly what you mean by pure communism.

if it is "workers control the means of production" then there would be no non-working owners. all businesses would be owned by those who work in them. perhaps everything else would be the same.

sounds like titoism

[Notodonta ziczac]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_communism

death and chaos then

[Ashmoria]

you would have to specify exactly what you mean by pure communism.

if it is "workers control the means of production" then there would be no non-working owners. all businesses would be owned by those who work in them. perhaps everything else would be the same.

sounds like titoism

i wouldnt know.

[Jakaragua]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_communism

death and chaos then

Let me brace my helmet before you say "human nature".

[Glorious Homeland]

"The state apparatus becomes redundant because classes cease to exist."
That's a pretty stupid thing to say. Class is irrelevant to the need for society to organise and plan strategically. Everyone could be on the same earnings and all the basic things taken care of, but there will still be a need for people to need to discuss strategic concerns that are an issue for the community, and between communities. The communist take on the necessity of the state is based on an inaccurate obsession with class warfare, in which communists become unable to deal with the world in a way that doesn't directly relate to class warfare.

EDIT:
Just reading these wiki articles. Leninism makes no sense. We'll destroy the capitalist class, and replace it with a professional revolutionary vanguard party, whose job and responsibility it is to manage the proletarian... who naturally will want to keep their jobs, since they're apparently "professionals", or, a class above the common workers. So, in order to establish a classless society, you establish a class based society :| Someone please elaborate concisely on how this works... as it seems to me that all it is is changing hands of the aristocracy, as happened in the USSR.

[Arilando]

I would like to get some replies from people who call themselves Communist.

[EnragedMaldivians]

I think such societies already exist in the form of tribal societies. I think. Any anthropologist want to dispute me?

[Lunatic Goofballs]

I would like to get some replies from people who call themselves Communist.

I'd also like to hear from the Frisbeetarians.

[Jakaragua]

I would like to get some replies from people who call themselves Communist.

Well, here's sort of an answer

First you have to consider that a society is not an organism (like a plant), it is the set of relationships between people that is both the set and something different (in our case the capitalist mode of production) which is determined historically. So in order to know how it would look like we have to understand how the human relations created in the new society would work.

*It won't be a hierarchical social division of labour
*the means of production will be owned, managed, and reproduced collectively
*technological developments would help to increase production in higher levels in order to cover basic needs such production of food, medicine but what won't be produced any more are "opulent" products and services because they won't be necessary.
*There will be no coercive entity in charge of people
*There will be no classes
*Aesthetics will be the model of social reproduction of life (there will be no necessity of "entertainment" because leisure time will not exist, instead the production in all forms will be directed in an artistic way)
(those are my suggestions about the new society)

There will be Collectivization. It will work based on the decision consciously taken by each person and decision made as a whole, it won't be any kind of party or entity above persons in charge of "directing" the production because it will be based on the people's needs or the desire and interest of a single group. Because the social division of labor won't exist as it exist in the capital mode of production, we will have to think about how does the new division will work, something I haven't designed at the moment. But because no necessity of profit will be the central issue in the production but to cover the needs of people it can be the start point to think about it.

The production will be distributed directly to the people and because they are the ones deciding what to produce, how to produce and in which amount it won't exist any determinant but the needs of aware people. No earnings will exist (in terms of money) because the "fruits of the labour" will be directed distributed so no need of money will exist. And also basically because each human won't need anymore to worry about earnings because there will be no necessity of being "rich" in a capitalist way.


Decisions are made not by each person, but as a whole, in that case the best solution at the moment (not the unique) are the worker's councils in which each person will have the opportunity to participate. Making communism the fullest expression of Democracy there could ever possibly be. (I feel as if I'm marketing something...)

Those are my answers. Of course, it may look quite different, because communism is a long term goal of Communists. The main goal is the overthrow of capitalism and establishment of socialism as a transition period to the kind of society above.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Like a Communist society.

Tautology FTW.

[Jakaragua]

The prefect Communist society only exists in theory. Practically, it's impossible.

You drew that conclusion from... what exactly?