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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:36 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
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EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Think of five young famous white actresses.
Pretty easy right?

Now think of five young famous black actresses.
Bit harder for you?

The reason I've asked this is because, I heard the quite shocking news that Angelina Jolie may play Cleopatra.
Let's get the fact's right, Cleopatra is most probably a very dark skinned woman, Jolie is NOT dark skinned.

Why can't we find any young famous black actresses to play this role? Why aren't there enough black actresses? Why must they be confined to Tyler Perry movies?


Why would a black actress play that role? It should be a brown middle eastern actress.

More like a ... Greek?


No, not greek.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:37 pm

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Chrobalta wrote: :roll:

Put a black actress in for Megan Fox, in the first two transformers, and tell me that they would have been just as successful.


A hot black actress, why not?

I would have preferred it more...Megan Fox is just creepy.
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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:37 pm

Faith Hope Charity wrote:LOL, so what do you suggest.. the failed idea of "affirmative action" for Hollywood? HAHAHAH


Would they cast a black actress for Queen Elizabeth? Joan of Arc?

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:38 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Think of five young famous white actresses.
Pretty easy right?

Now think of five young famous black actresses.
Bit harder for you?

The reason I've asked this is because, I heard the quite shocking news that Angelina Jolie may play Cleopatra.
Let's get the fact's right, Cleopatra is most probably a very dark skinned woman, Jolie is NOT dark skinned.

Why can't we find any young famous black actresses to play this role? Why aren't there enough black actresses? Why must they be confined to Tyler Perry movies?


Why would a black actress play that role? It should be a brown middle eastern actress.

More like a ... Greek?


No, not greek.

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Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:38 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:In fact I can't figure out why people would assume the Egyptians had to be black in the first place...what because they live in Africa? :? That is hilariously racist just thinking about it. Indeed due to the conquest of the Arabs the Egyptians are much darker but still nowhere near Black thus I find it hard to believe that the Ancient and Modern Egyptians are both incorrect in themselves not being black. Unless someone adheres to Black Nationalist Rhetoric that is. :lol2:


Black, brown, red, tanned it's all the same to people.

To most people they are BLACK. I have figured this out when people started calling Obama black, when to me he is so clearly not.

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:39 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Faith Hope Charity wrote:LOL, so what do you suggest.. the failed idea of "affirmative action" for Hollywood? HAHAHAH


Would they cast a black actress for Queen Elizabeth? Joan of Arc?


They were not even close to being black, that would just be idiotic.
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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:39 pm

Chrobalta wrote:The majority of movie customers are ______ people. So therefore movies will be made to appeal to _____ people.


Are they? Some hollywood movies make more money outside USA.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:39 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:In fact I can't figure out why people would assume the Egyptians had to be black in the first place...what because they live in Africa? :? That is hilariously racist just thinking about it. Indeed due to the conquest of the Arabs the Egyptians are much darker but still nowhere near Black thus I find it hard to believe that the Ancient and Modern Egyptians are both incorrect in themselves not being black. Unless someone adheres to Black Nationalist Rhetoric that is. :lol2:


Black, brown, red, tanned it's all the same to people.

To most people they are BLACK. I have figured this out when people started calling Obama black, when to me he is so clearly not.

Not even remotely black. If you are calling people of various darker skin tones black then you are just retarded. If I called my barber black he would stare at me like I had lost my damn mind because he is Brazilian. :?
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:40 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.


American-centric much?

Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:40 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Faith Hope Charity wrote:LOL, so what do you suggest.. the failed idea of "affirmative action" for Hollywood? HAHAHAH


Would they cast a black actress for Queen Elizabeth? Joan of Arc?


They were not even close to being black, that would just be idiotic.


Similarly, Cleopatra wasnt close to being of Western European ancesty, so casting Jolie should also be idiotic.

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Postby Rolamec » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:40 pm

It's really simple, EDM. Many people just view white women as attractive since the majority of people are white. It's not right or fair, just how it is.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:41 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:Not even remotely black. If you are calling people of various darker skin tones black then you are just retarded. If I called my barber black he would stare at me like I had lost my damn mind because he is Brazilian. :?


I 100% agree with you.

I cannot count the countless times when I have to tell people I'm not black but mix-race.

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:42 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Think of five young famous white actresses.
Pretty easy right?

Now think of five young famous black actresses.
Bit harder for you?

The reason I've asked this is because, I heard the quite shocking news that Angelina Jolie may play Cleopatra.
Let's get the fact's right, Cleopatra is most probably a very dark skinned woman, Jolie is NOT dark skinned.

Why can't we find any young famous black actresses to play this role? Why aren't there enough black actresses? Why must they be confined to Tyler Perry movies?


Why would a black actress play that role? It should be a brown middle eastern actress.

More like a ... Greek?


No, not greek.

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Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.


A very precise analysis, you should have ur study published in a journal.

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:42 pm

Rolamec wrote:It's really simple, EDM. Many people just view white women as attractive since the majority of people are white. It's not right or fair, just how it is.


I personally think its some sort of deep rooted racism, but meh.

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:42 pm

Rolamec wrote:It's really simple, EDM. Many people just view white women as attractive since the majority of people are white. It's not right or fair, just how it is.


majority of people are black/brown.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:43 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.


American-centric much?

Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

West Africa not Egypt.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:44 pm

Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Think of five young famous white actresses.
Pretty easy right?

Now think of five young famous black actresses.
Bit harder for you?

The reason I've asked this is because, I heard the quite shocking news that Angelina Jolie may play Cleopatra.
Let's get the fact's right, Cleopatra is most probably a very dark skinned woman, Jolie is NOT dark skinned.

Why can't we find any young famous black actresses to play this role? Why aren't there enough black actresses? Why must they be confined to Tyler Perry movies?

Cleopatra probably was not very dark-skinned. Her ancestry was Greek, not African. She only had four great-grandparents and six (out of a possible 16) great-great-grandparents (furthermore, four of those six were descended from the other two), and they were all members of a couple of royal families founded by Alexander's generals.

YOU LIE!
Actually that was spot on. Most Egyptians aren't black though the ancient Egyptians even made differences between themselves and other African people in their hieroglyphs. Hell the Egyptian Historical Society ripped an American Black Nationalist group a new ass when they claimed King Tut should be black he wasn't.

BABY KILLER!
And the Ancient E's painted themselves as having reddish skin. Modern Egyptians are probably mostly Arab in descent and are darker than the people of 4000 years ago.


Ancient Egyptians painted themselves as brown:

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"1820 drawing of a Book of Gates fresco of the tomb of Seti I, depicting (from left): Libyan, Nubian, Asiatic, Egyptians."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Eg ... ontroversy

Not always ...
Image


But let's not get into "That's not red, it's brown!" I'll concede the point. Cleopatra, on the other hand, was not Middle Eastern but Greek, and being royal would spend very little time in the blazing sun.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:45 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
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Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.


American-centric much?

Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

West Africa not Egypt.


It could of also been present in Egypt at the time.

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:45 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
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Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.


American-centric much?

Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

West Africa not Egypt.


It could of also been present in Egypt at the time.

Very unlikely as the Egyptian Royalty would not adopt something from "lesser" peoples.
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Postby North Wiedna » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:45 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

Kansas!
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Postby Free-Beings » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:46 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:In fact I can't figure out why people would assume the Egyptians had to be black in the first place...what because they live in Africa? :? That is hilariously racist just thinking about it. Indeed due to the conquest of the Arabs the Egyptians are much darker but still nowhere near Black thus I find it hard to believe that the Ancient and Modern Egyptians are both incorrect in themselves not being black. Unless someone adheres to Black Nationalist Rhetoric that is. :lol2:


Black, brown, red, tanned it's all the same to people.

To most people they are BLACK. I have figured this out when people started calling Obama black, when to me he is so clearly not.


Maybe cause he claims to be black?
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:46 pm

North Wiedna wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

Kansas!

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:46 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.


American-centric much?

Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

West Africa not Egypt.


It could of also been present in Egypt at the time.

Very unlikely as the Egyptian Royalty would not adopt something from "lesser" peoples.


How do you know it was the lesser people doing it?
Maybe she started the fashion trend.

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Postby Nova Magna Germania » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Nova Magna Germania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:Think of five young famous white actresses.
Pretty easy right?

Now think of five young famous black actresses.
Bit harder for you?

The reason I've asked this is because, I heard the quite shocking news that Angelina Jolie may play Cleopatra.
Let's get the fact's right, Cleopatra is most probably a very dark skinned woman, Jolie is NOT dark skinned.

Why can't we find any young famous black actresses to play this role? Why aren't there enough black actresses? Why must they be confined to Tyler Perry movies?

Cleopatra probably was not very dark-skinned. Her ancestry was Greek, not African. She only had four great-grandparents and six (out of a possible 16) great-great-grandparents (furthermore, four of those six were descended from the other two), and they were all members of a couple of royal families founded by Alexander's generals.

YOU LIE!
Actually that was spot on. Most Egyptians aren't black though the ancient Egyptians even made differences between themselves and other African people in their hieroglyphs. Hell the Egyptian Historical Society ripped an American Black Nationalist group a new ass when they claimed King Tut should be black he wasn't.

BABY KILLER!
And the Ancient E's painted themselves as having reddish skin. Modern Egyptians are probably mostly Arab in descent and are darker than the people of 4000 years ago.


Ancient Egyptians painted themselves as brown:

Image
"1820 drawing of a Book of Gates fresco of the tomb of Seti I, depicting (from left): Libyan, Nubian, Asiatic, Egyptians."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Eg ... ontroversy

Not always ...
Image


But let's not get into "That's not red, it's brown!" I'll concede the point. Cleopatra, on the other hand, was not Middle Eastern but Greek, and being royal would spend very little time in the blazing sun.


1) Noone has red skin. red:

Image

2) Source for the pic?

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Postby Panzerjaeger » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:47 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.


American-centric much?

Where the hell do you think cornrows came from?

West Africa not Egypt.


It could of also been present in Egypt at the time.

Very unlikely as the Egyptian Royalty would not adopt something from "lesser" peoples.


How do you know it was the lesser people doing it?
Maybe she started the fashion trend.

It started in West Africa and was mainly used by Warriors to keep the hair tight to the scalp. Very unlikely a person like Cleopatra would ever wear it. Now you are just grasping for straws.
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