Im now Athiest

[Elil Hrair Rah]

The proof that "god" doesn't exist is, "he" is made up by man. The Bible IS supposed to be the word of "god." First of all, I think it's kinda funny how every religious person SWEARS that their 'god' is the only "god." There are a thousand "gods" out there, believers just go for the one that their parents taught them. By the way, the story of Jesus has been altered by Christians. The same story was taken from many other recorded religions prior to Christianity. (A known fact, they just don't teach it to ya in Sunday school.)
If anyone believes that there is a MAN floating around up in the clouds, they're a nut job. Furthermore, if anyone believes that out of the BILLIONS of known stars in our Milky way galaxy and the BILLIONS of galaxies in the known universe, that each of these BILLIONS of galaxies holding BILLIONS of stars, that "god" sent his son down to this tiny planet on the edge of this giant galaxy amidst BILLIONS of other giant galaxies, "his" "son" to die for YOUR sins, BEFORE you're even born, then sirs, you are MORONS.
That was the coolest run on sentence ever.

Welcome to Atheism.

"The most henious and the must cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives."
Mohandas K Gandhi

I'm gonna post this again, because this was posted last night when this debate was going on and apparently many of you didn't see it.
Religion=Hypocrisy=bad

[The Bleeding Roses]

You didn't convert because you were never a Christian... Mommy and Daddy are. Anyone that gives up a belief (one you obviously didn't know much about to begin with) in less than 3 hours to such pointless drivel is no believer at all.

[The Floor Kippers]

Do not judge, or you too will be judged

[El Almanuel]

"We are all atheists about most gods. I just believe in one fewer than you."

I love your train of thought!

If any fanatical types are reading this then try this in your head.

Take any arguement that god exists from your own beliefs or other posts and try to apply it to a separate religion that you have some knowledge of, use the arguement to validate the new religion to the point that it simply must be true. Then take a step back, look at the religion through the eyes of your new arguement and you may see gaps in the religion, where there is no obvious solution, if you think of a solution, apply it, a new gap will open up, repeat the process until the solution becomes so ridiculous that it could never be true. There, in that gap you begin to see the true nature of the religion.

These gaps can be found in any religion, try the process on your own religion. If you can't see those gaps in reasoning then you are beyond saving.

I hope this has helped.

On a less serious note, there are so many 'sins' that many people commit every day, like eating meat, stealing, living off the suffering of the poor...

So many things are 'sinful', scratching your arse ought to be a sin, and if scratching your arse is a sin then we're all going to hell!

.

[Angleter]

I used to be christian but due to a debate with my friend whos athiest he showed me the true facts like how the bible contradicts itself like for example god supposedly gives us free will, well no thats not true considering the bible tells us to do things or else were going to go to hell which when I thought about it didnt sound like free will what so ever. Also God is supposedly merciful, well in the bible he killed all of the first born children in egypt because he was mad at the pharoah...tht doesnt sound merciful that sounds like a phsycopathic maniac I mean why not just kill the pharoah rather than kill
innocent children.

It's the Old Testament, you're not meant to take it literally. It's just the ancient Hebrews sensationalising their oral history by boasting about how God did this and God did that and God loves us but nobody else and we're the best. And yes, God did give us free will- he might tell you to do things, but you can still not do them. You'd pay the consequences, but still you can disobey him all you like.

And as for 7 deadly sins

Pride- Pretty much goes along with the envy becausde god says hes the only true powerful god and there are no others who have his power.

Laziness- well god sits in heaven all day and watches people, its not like hes walking around earth spreading his name around or proving anything.

Greed- God supposedly made humans to worship him and him alone, he also supposedly made the whole universe for himself. Thats sounds like greed to me, I dont knwo about you NSG.

Wrath- He killed new born children and flooded the earth killing everyone supposedly, sounds like wrath.

And he fits into the other ones as well.

Pride: Well, he is the only true powerful God. Jesus, though, is a part of the Trinity and he showed humility.

Laziness/Sloth: How do you know what he's doing?

Greed: According to the Creation Story (again, Old Testament, look at it metaphorically, it's not literal) he made humans to rule the Earth. If he were so greedy, wouldn't he be more interested in requisitioning all our riches and keeping us poor?

Wrath: Old Testament, not literal.

Other Ones: Well does he? How?

Then theres also the fact that who made god? The bible says he infinite which is impossible, he couldnt have just popped up randomly and started making everything. And also God is supposedly All knowing and knows our future and knows whats going to happen. Well then why did he make lucifer if he knew he was going to rebel when he made him. Why did god let hitler be born if he knew he was going to kill jews. Also why did god even make earth and humans to worship him if hes just going to take us back into heaven I mean thats just stupid. Also my friend brought up how theres 1000's of religons which were just made up by humans as a way of control or liek the greeks did a way to explain things they didnt understand. Like how anyone can just make up a religon and makes some rules in order to enforce it.

But God is outside the Universe and thus outside its timeframe. So not impossible, unless we go outside the Universe and study its timeframe, which is impossible.

God's omniscience of the future and the concept of predestination is a matter that is subject to bitter debate in the Christian community. Calvinists for one are proponents of this notion, whereas other groups such as Catholics are sceptical. I myself, a Catholic against predestination, can't see how God can 'fast-forward' our Universe and see what's going to happen. And also, most liberal Christians (myself included) don't believe that God actively interferes in our reproductive system and 'creates' children.

As for the presence of thousands of religions, while some of them are indeed BS (Scientology, for one), many of them are strikingly similar- Islam, Christianity and Judaism share a God (YHWH). They also happen to usually fit the same basic pattern and have similar basic rules: therefore, it could well be that all these religions are different paths to the same God, the same truth. Of course, each denomination of each religion will claim that it is the absolute definitive truth and thus the best path to God, but still each religion points towards God.

Also in the bible it says the Anti-Christ will be the one who trys to unite the people in the world, why the hell would a man whos trying to do good and unite everyone be the Anti-Christ, my opinion is the churchs dont want people to be organized they just want us to be stupid and go to church and give them money and listen to bullshit.

It's Revelations, that bit isn't exactly literal either. And, if I do take it on face value for a moment, the point is that he unites humanity against God, brainwashing them into accepting his rule (which I doubt would be too pleasant) and committing evil.

Also why is it a sin to have sex before marriage when were just doing what are bodys were designed to do, I mean the first humans didnt wait to get married before having sex, the male would just see a female and then bam have sex with her. Me and m friend had this discussion for like 3hrs and at first it was a debate but then soon it became a conversation and he helped me undertsand that basicly believeing in god is like how children believe in Santa. If your good you get rewarded if you dont then you dont get rewarded. We talked about other reasons to why god cant be real I just dont feel like typing all of them up and Im sorry if I offended anyone before when I made the "How can you not be christian forum" It was stupid of me to even believe in a imaginary guy so again Im sorry if I offended anyone on that forum about "How can you not be a christian"

Don't worry. In case you haven't yet figured, this forum is predominantly atheist and agnostic. You've barely offended anyone. But God is most likely not a 'guy'.

Humans- it seems- mate for life, like flamingos et al. That is what is the human thing to do, and thus God encourages it. Most Christians, the liberal ones especially, do not believe that having extra-marital or non-vaginal (that being a sin for natural reasons, to do otherwise is misusing the genitals) sex is a major sin.

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I can only assume that this is due to an upbringing in a Christian denomination (or section of a denomination) that is not liberal and believes in things that are patently not literally true to most Christians. Hopefully you'll hit upon a form of Christianity that does make more sense to you and return to the flock (ever the optimist, I suggest Catholicism), but either way, each to their own.

[Angleter]

The proof that "god" doesn't exist is, "he" is made up by man. The Bible IS supposed to be the word of "god." First of all, I think it's kinda funny how every religious person SWEARS that their 'god' is the only "god." There are a thousand "gods" out there, believers just go for the one that their parents taught them. By the way, the story of Jesus has been altered by Christians. The same story was taken from many other recorded religions prior to Christianity. (A known fact, they just don't teach it to ya in Sunday school.)
If anyone believes that there is a MAN floating around up in the clouds, they're a nut job. Furthermore, if anyone believes that out of the BILLIONS of known stars in our Milky way galaxy and the BILLIONS of galaxies in the known universe, that each of these BILLIONS of galaxies holding BILLIONS of stars, that "god" sent his son down to this tiny planet on the edge of this giant galaxy amidst BILLIONS of other giant galaxies, "his" "son" to die for YOUR sins, BEFORE you're even born, then sirs, you are MORONS.
That was the coolest run on sentence ever.

Welcome to Atheism.

"The most henious and the must cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives."
Mohandas K Gandhi

I'm gonna post this again, because this was posted last night when this debate was going on and apparently many of you didn't see it.
Religion=Hypocrisy=bad

Bad idea. Calling Christians 'MORONS' in capital letters to get your point across more = not a great idea. Posting it again so more people see you calling Christians 'MORONS' = even worse idea. [/notamod]

And check your own quote, in which Gandhi- a Hindu- calls religion a 'noble motive'.

[Ashmoria]

You didn't convert because you were never a Christian... Mommy and Daddy are. Anyone that gives up a belief (one you obviously didn't know much about to begin with) in less than 3 hours to such pointless drivel is no believer at all.

harsh but true.

[Angleter]

You didn't convert because you were never a Christian... Mommy and Daddy are. Anyone that gives up a belief (one you obviously didn't know much about to begin with) in less than 3 hours to such pointless drivel is no believer at all.

harsh but true.

True indeed.

[Great Nepal]

I used to be christian but due to a debate with my friend whos athiest he showed me the true facts like how the bible contradicts itself like for example god supposedly gives us free will, well no thats not true considering the bible tells us to do things or else were going to go to hell which when I thought about it didnt sound like free will what so ever. Also God is supposedly merciful, well in the bible he killed all of the first born children in egypt because he was mad at the pharoah...tht doesnt sound merciful that sounds like a phsycopathic maniac I mean why not just kill the pharoah rather than kill
innocent children.

And as for 7 deadly sins

Pride- Pretty much goes along with the envy becausde god says hes the only true powerful god and there are no others who have his power.

Laziness- well god sits in heaven all day and watches people, its not like hes walking around earth spreading his name around or proving anything.

Greed- God supposedly made humans to worship him and him alone, he also supposedly made the whole universe for himself. Thats sounds like greed to me, I dont knwo about you NSG.

Wrath- He killed new born children and flooded the earth killing everyone supposedly, sounds like wrath.

And he fits into the other ones as well.

Then theres also the fact that who made god? The bible says he infinite which is impossible, he couldnt have just popped up randomly and started making everything. And also God is supposedly All knowing and knows our future and knows whats going to happen. Well then why did he make lucifer if he knew he was going to rebel when he made him. Why did god let hitler be born if he knew he was going to kill jews. Also why did god even make earth and humans to worship him if hes just going to take us back into heaven I mean thats just stupid. Also my friend brought up how theres 1000's of religons which were just made up by humans as a way of control or liek the greeks did a way to explain things they didnt understand. Like how anyone can just make up a religon and makes some rules in order to enforce it.

Also in the bible it says the Anti-Christ will be the one who trys to unite the people in the world, why the hell would a man whos trying to do good and unite everyone be the Anti-Christ, my opinion is the churchs dont want people to be organized they just want us to be stupid and go to church and give them money and listen to bullshit.


Also why is it a sin to have sex before marriage when were just doing what are bodys were designed to do, I mean the first humans didnt wait to get married before having sex, the male would just see a female and then bam have sex with her. Me and m friend had this discussion for like 3hrs and at first it was a debate but then soon it became a conversation and he helped me undertsand that basicly believeing in god is like how children believe in Santa. If your good you get rewarded if you dont then you dont get rewarded. We talked about other reasons to why god cant be real I just dont feel like typing all of them up and Im sorry if I offended anyone before when I made the "How can you not be christian forum" It was stupid of me to even believe in a imaginary guy so again Im sorry if I offended anyone on that forum about "How can you not be a christian"

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

[Grave_n_idle]

You didn't convert because you were never a Christian... Mommy and Daddy are. Anyone that gives up a belief (one you obviously didn't know much about to begin with) in less than 3 hours to such pointless drivel is no believer at all.

And yet, people constantly try to convert me to Christianity through the revelation inherent in just one bible verse, which takes mere moments to read.

I guess you must be arguing that most Christians are either hypocrites or illogical, then?

[Farnhamia]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

The proof that "god" doesn't exist is, "he" is made up by man. Impossible to prove or disprove, hue hue hue. The Bible IS supposed to be the word of "god." I'm Christian, and I think the bible is the words of a bunch of half-crazy old guys, some of whom may have been inspired by some sort of divine intervention. It's got some good ideas in it, though. First of all, I think it's kinda funny how every religious person SWEARS that their 'god' is the only "god." I don't. The bible makes it pretty clear that there are other gods. You're just not supposed to worship them before God. There are a thousand "gods" out there, believers just go for the one that their parents taught them. Yup. Humans do that. The same can be said about countries, sports teams, favorite authors, and cake. By the way, the story of Jesus has been altered by Christians. Just like everything else. The same story was taken from many other recorded religions prior to Christianity. (A known fact, they just don't teach it to ya in Sunday school.) I went to Sunday School once. Hilariously, the lesson that day was a comparison of Jesus to Baldr.
If anyone believes that there is a MAN floating around up in the clouds, they're a nut job. God floats? I was under the impression that he had a throne. Furthermore, if anyone believes that out of the BILLIONS of known stars in our Milky way galaxy and the BILLIONS of galaxies in the known universe, that each of these BILLIONS of galaxies holding BILLIONS of stars, that "god" sent his son down to this tiny planet on the edge of this giant galaxy amidst BILLIONS of other giant galaxies, "his" "son" to die for YOUR sins, BEFORE you're even born, then sirs, you are MORONS. Leaving the flaming aside, God being omnipotent means that he can do the same thing everywhere he wants to. However, I doubt he would, since I don't think the human impression of Jesus would go down well on a planet inhabited, by, say, sentient plants.
Perhaps they would nail their savior to a monkey?
That was the coolest run on sentence ever.

Welcome to Atheism.

"The most henious and the must cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives."
Mohandas K Gandhi
Stalin, as far as I know, wasn't particularly religious. And I don't think Genghis Khan particularly cared whether you were Christian or Muslim. Kim Jong-Il...I'm not sure, does worshiping yourself count as religion?

I'm gonna post this again, because this was posted last night when this debate was going on and apparently many of you didn't see it.
Religion=Hypocrisy=bad

I'll bite.

[Jeht]

good for you atheism ftw

[Xeevok]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

Religious people tend to make shit up without proof, even if they are "moderately religious". There's a high chance of there being no proof along with that idiotic statement.

EDIT: @OP: congrats on your freedom

[Proog]

[Farnhamia]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

Religious people tend to make shit up without proof, even if they are "moderately religious". There's a high chance of there being no proof along with that idiotic statement.

It seems to me that I've heard this before and that there was something to it, but when someone throws out a statement like that, I feel obliged to ask them for sources.

This could be true in the sense that religious people may not report mental illness or go for treatment as much as atheists do.

[Ashmoria]

You didn't convert because you were never a Christian... Mommy and Daddy are. Anyone that gives up a belief (one you obviously didn't know much about to begin with) in less than 3 hours to such pointless drivel is no believer at all.

And yet, people constantly try to convert me to Christianity through the revelation inherent in just one bible verse, which takes mere moments to read.

I guess you must be arguing that most Christians are either hypocrites or illogical, then?

naive perhaps.

[Great Nepal]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

Of course.... I DO have a source for that...

People who pray frequently are less likely to suffer from depression and anxiety, according to a study.

Also I found a next report while searching for that link saying that religions people trend to die less....

A study using data from the Women's Health Initiative found that women aged 50 and up were 20% less likely to die in any given year if they attended religious services weekly (15% reduction if they attended less than weekly) compared to those that never attend religious services. This analysis was controlled for age, ethnicity, income level and (most importantly) current health status.

[Xeevok]

edit: nevermind my post, the "moderately religous" dude supposedly has a thorough survey to fit the assertion.

[Farnhamia]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

Of course.... I DO have a source for that...

People who pray frequently are less likely to suffer from depression and anxiety, according to a study.

Also I found a next report while searching for that link saying that religions people trend to die less....

A study using data from the Women's Health Initiative found that women aged 50 and up were 20% less likely to die in any given year if they attended religious services weekly (15% reduction if they attended less than weekly) compared to those that never attend religious services. This analysis was controlled for age, ethnicity, income level and (most importantly) current health status.

Thank you. You might have included them in the first place and saved the trouble, but thanks anyway. Of course, none of this proves that the supernatural aspects of religion are at work, but that the structure of a religious outlook provides a certain amount of well-being. Nothing wrong with that. I myself don't see the point in believing something that can't be proven. I have plenty of peace of mind, too.

[Great Nepal]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

Of course.... I DO have a source for that...

People who pray frequently are less likely to suffer from depression and anxiety, according to a study.

Also I found a next report while searching for that link saying that religions people trend to die less....

A study using data from the Women's Health Initiative found that women aged 50 and up were 20% less likely to die in any given year if they attended religious services weekly (15% reduction if they attended less than weekly) compared to those that never attend religious services. This analysis was controlled for age, ethnicity, income level and (most importantly) current health status.

Thank you. You might have included them in the first place and saved the trouble, but thanks anyway. Of course, none of this proves that the supernatural aspects of religion are at work, but that the structure of a religious outlook provides a certain amount of well-being. Nothing wrong with that. I myself don't see the point in believing something that can't be proven. I have plenty of peace of mind, too.

Yea, I also dont agree that religion can HEAL people - but religion provides base for people to say "god is testing us" or "it will be right at last; as god loves everyone".... and it is well known truth that stress cos many illness and mental illness is mostly as a result of depression and stress.... so as religion provides answer to problems - the stress will be less than for that of non-religious people.

[Xeevok]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

Of course.... I DO have a source for that...

People who pray frequently are less likely to suffer from depression and anxiety, according to a study.

Also I found a next report while searching for that link saying that religions people trend to die less....

A study using data from the Women's Health Initiative found that women aged 50 and up were 20% less likely to die in any given year if they attended religious services weekly (15% reduction if they attended less than weekly) compared to those that never attend religious services. This analysis was controlled for age, ethnicity, income level and (most importantly) current health status.

Thank you. You might have included them in the first place and saved the trouble, but thanks anyway. Of course, none of this proves that the supernatural aspects of religion are at work, but that the structure of a religious outlook provides a certain amount of well-being. Nothing wrong with that. I myself don't see the point in believing something that can't be proven. I have plenty of peace of mind, too.

I'd say there is something else besides religion at work there. Some other cognative process(es). Jungian theory may help explain it. For example: Introverts apparently suffer more from anxiety/depression than extroverts due to the introverts inward procession of feelings & thoughts. A majority of the few atheists I've met are introverts themselves. I'm not saying that's the answer, but I'd have to say that there is a wider explanation for this than "who's religious and who's not".

[Farnhamia]

*snip of the OP*

Very well - I am not a Christan and I wont like to defend Christianity as I dont know much about it - but as I am moderately religious - I would rather be saying about religion in general... also I dont think religious book are to be taken literally - it must be adjusted to modern world. Moreover we must take the good parts while ignore some parts where it says things encouraging violence.... Also did you know religious people trend have less chance of mental illness than atheist....

Of course, you have a source for that.

Of course.... I DO have a source for that...

People who pray frequently are less likely to suffer from depression and anxiety, according to a study.

Also I found a next report while searching for that link saying that religions people trend to die less....

A study using data from the Women's Health Initiative found that women aged 50 and up were 20% less likely to die in any given year if they attended religious services weekly (15% reduction if they attended less than weekly) compared to those that never attend religious services. This analysis was controlled for age, ethnicity, income level and (most importantly) current health status.

Thank you. You might have included them in the first place and saved the trouble, but thanks anyway. Of course, none of this proves that the supernatural aspects of religion are at work, but that the structure of a religious outlook provides a certain amount of well-being. Nothing wrong with that. I myself don't see the point in believing something that can't be proven. I have plenty of peace of mind, too.

I'd say there is something else besides religion at work there. Some other cognative process(es). Jungian theory may help explain it. For example: Introverts apparently suffer more from anxiety/depression than extroverts due to the introverts inward procession of feelings & thoughts. A majority of the few atheists I've met are introverts themselves. I'm not saying that's the answer, but I'd have to say that there is a wider explanation for this than "who's religious and who's not".

This is also a good explanation, as is GN's idea of religion providing stress relief.

[Risottia]

If it were a mental disorder, the majority of the world would be sick in the head.

A world were pet cats are fed salmon, pheasant and rabbit while millions of kids starve to death, and where people kill each other over differences in skin colour, language, or about pieces of century-old fanfiction, doesn't exactly strike me as completely sane in the head, though.

[Elil Hrair Rah]

The proof that "god" doesn't exist is, "he" is made up by man. The Bible IS supposed to be the word of "god." First of all, I think it's kinda funny how every religious person SWEARS that their 'god' is the only "god." There are a thousand "gods" out there, believers just go for the one that their parents taught them. By the way, the story of Jesus has been altered by Christians. The same story was taken from many other recorded religions prior to Christianity. (A known fact, they just don't teach it to ya in Sunday school.)
If anyone believes that there is a MAN floating around up in the clouds, they're a nut job. Furthermore, if anyone believes that out of the BILLIONS of known stars in our Milky way galaxy and the BILLIONS of galaxies in the known universe, that each of these BILLIONS of galaxies holding BILLIONS of stars, that "god" sent his son down to this tiny planet on the edge of this giant galaxy amidst BILLIONS of other giant galaxies, "his" "son" to die for YOUR sins, BEFORE you're even born, then sirs, you are MORONS.
That was the coolest run on sentence ever.

Welcome to Atheism.

"The most henious and the must cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives."
Mohandas K Gandhi

I'm gonna post this again, because this was posted last night when this debate was going on and apparently many of you didn't see it.
Religion=Hypocrisy=bad

Bad idea. Calling Christians 'MORONS' in capital letters to get your point across more = not a great idea. Posting it again so more people see you calling Christians 'MORONS' = even worse idea. [/notamod]

And check your own quote, in which Gandhi- a Hindu- calls religion a 'noble motive'.

mo·ron: 
–noun
1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.

Stating the truth, in a debate. Great idea. (and although I did use a "Christian" example the moron status applies to all religions.)
My quote has been checked, If you read my previous posts when another "genius" debated it. Ghandi is saying that the "noble motive," and others such as religion is a guise to perform "henious crimes" under the name of "god." ...and I said that I don't blame Ghandi for being a Hindu, everyone has their faults.