NHS and the denial of circumcision.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Look guys, I'm circumcised and I don't have any trouble enjoying sex (more than just about anything I can think of). It's not some horribly crippling mutilation that ruins your sex life forever as it seems some are making it out to be.

Please show me one person that has "made it out to be a horribly crippling mutilation that ruins your sex life forever".

[Edo-Tokyo]

why is the U.S.A where most men are circumcised has a high rate of impotence?

[Yootopia]

why is the U.S.A where most men are circumcised has a high rate of impotence?

Heavy metal poisoning.

[Person012345]

why is the U.S.A where most men are circumcised has a high rate of impotence?

Heavy metal poisoning.

@Edo Correlation does not imply causation.

[The Plutonian Empire]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

[DaWoad]

why is the U.S.A where most men are circumcised has a high rate of impotence?

Heavy metal poisoning.

@Edo Correlation does not imply causation.

This . . .(also there might not actually be a higher rate of impotence in the states it may just be testing or societal differences)

[Dakini]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

You don't clean your dick every day?

I assumed that men just did this in the shower... gave it a quick sudsing up and a rinse.

Maybe I just date men with high standards of personal hygiene and this is abnormal. If so, no wonder so many women are adverse to giving blow jobs.

[The Plutonian Empire]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

You don't clean your dick every day?

I don't have to.

[Amisille]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

You don't clean your dick every day?

I don't have to.

Circumcised or uncircumcised. Neither group have to clean themselves. Most just want to because they're not filthy.

[Dakini]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

You don't clean your dick every day?

I don't have to.

Uh... you probably do.

I mean, I might not "have" to clean my back every day, as in nobody will notice if I don't and I won't be completely disgusting, but I still do.

And I've dated guys who are circumcised and do wash their dicks every day... unless they just put on a show for communal shower time.

[Germoaustria]

I was searching up on the world wide webs and found this page explaining why the NHS denies circumcision.
I was actually a bit shocked as I thought you would be allowed to have it done on your child for religious reasons.
The cost of circumcision privately various from £300-£1500. So most children don't get circumcision.

My question main question is: "Do you think a national health services should provide circumcision for non-medical reasons?".

Personally my opinion is that they shouldn't as in developed countries there is simply no need for circumcision.
One reason I'm normally given is because of religious reason, I certainly don't agree with that as I don't think you should be allowed to force your religious views on a child.
Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.
Aesthetic reasons are also inane as you shouldn't be able to force your child to look the "same as daddy" for the rest of its life.

Circumcision can also can be very distressful and painful for your newborn.

What's your opinion NSG?

Most people in America get circumcisions, I also think they are much cheeper here. True, but who wants to clean under their penis skin? In America, I think it is not very acceptalbe to be uncircumcised. It also can increase penis size, and pleasure, as it exsposes nerve cells, but I do not think it should be paid for, because I do not think there should be national healthcare, but if you have that system, then yes, they should pay for it, especialy if they pay for things like abortions (that are not needed to save the mothers lives) and things like lasic Eye surgery, but I do not know what they pay for, I live across the pond.

[The Plutonian Empire]

Just because I said I didn't have to, it doesn't mean I don't do it.

I do it whenever I take a shower.

I just said "I didn't have to" because I had a circumcision.

.....

I should really stop posting TMI on webforums.

[Dakini]

It also can increase penis size,

No it can't.

and pleasure, as it exsposes nerve cells,

No it doesn't. It exposes the most sensitive part of the penis to friction day in and day out which desensitizes it. It also removes some skin which also has nerve endings.

especialy if they pay for things like abortions (that are not needed to save the mothers lives) and things like lasic Eye surgery, but I do not know what they pay for, I live across the pond.

These things serve actual medical purposes (although I don't think that the eye surgery is usually covered, it might be in the UK because I think they cover eyeglasses and the like).

[Person012345]

especialy if they pay for things like abortions (that are not needed to save the mothers lives) and things like lasic Eye surgery, but I do not know what they pay for, I live across the pond.

These things serve actual medical purposes (although I don't think that the eye surgery is usually covered, it might be in the UK because I think they cover eyeglasses and the like).

I'm pretty sure they don't cover laser eye surgery.

[Dakini]

especialy if they pay for things like abortions (that are not needed to save the mothers lives) and things like lasic Eye surgery, but I do not know what they pay for, I live across the pond.

These things serve actual medical purposes (although I don't think that the eye surgery is usually covered, it might be in the UK because I think they cover eyeglasses and the like).

I'm pretty sure they don't cover laser eye surgery.

Ok, like I said, I don't know what they cover. I know they cover more things than here. Here, you're left entirely on your own for vision and dental care and while the price of prescriptions is usually knocked down (so it's cheaper than you'd find in the US) it's still something that's between you and your extra health insurance.

Oh, though it does vary from province to province. I think that Alberta covers plastic surgery even.

[Crazed Sex Poodle]

I think NHS should hire doctors who work for tips. Problem solved!

[Blouman Empire]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

So does brushing your teeth, which takes longer than washing your penis.

Does that mean you don't brush your teeth every day?

[Germoaustria]

It also can increase penis size,

No it can't.

and pleasure, as it exsposes nerve cells,

No it doesn't. It exposes the most sensitive part of the penis to friction day in and day out which desensitizes it. It also removes some skin which also has nerve endings.

especialy if they pay for things like abortions (that are not needed to save the mothers lives) and things like lasic Eye surgery, but I do not know what they pay for, I live across the pond.

These things serve actual medical purposes (although I don't think that the eye surgery is usually covered, it might be in the UK because I think they cover eyeglasses and the like).

From a complication of things I have read on the web, and things they have thought in School, the top two are true. Cicumcision does serve actual medical purposes, it decreases the odds of getting an infection, just like removing a small dogs tail decreases the odds of an infection, or removing a wisdom tooth. What medical purpose would the type of abortion that I described serve, and lasik is personal preference, in a modern society you can always where glasses.

For the record, I am pro-choice, circumsized, and wear contacts.

[Tungookska]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

So does brushing your teeth, which takes longer than washing your penis.

Does that mean you don't brush your teeth every day?

implying second guy doesn't like touching his penis in the shower

[Blouman Empire]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

So does brushing your teeth, which takes longer than washing your penis.

Does that mean you don't brush your teeth every day?

implying second guy doesn't like touching his penis in the shower

Que?

[Dakini]

It also can increase penis size,

No it can't.

and pleasure, as it exsposes nerve cells,

No it doesn't. It exposes the most sensitive part of the penis to friction day in and day out which desensitizes it. It also removes some skin which also has nerve endings.

especialy if they pay for things like abortions (that are not needed to save the mothers lives) and things like lasic Eye surgery, but I do not know what they pay for, I live across the pond.

These things serve actual medical purposes (although I don't think that the eye surgery is usually covered, it might be in the UK because I think they cover eyeglasses and the like).

From a complication of things I have read on the web, and things they have thought in School, the top two are true.

They're definitely not true. There's absolutely no physical reason for circumcision to make the penis bigger. It might make it appear bigger by default, but the foreskin pulls back when an uncircumcised penis is erect anyway. It's probably about the same effect as trimming down hair. And it definitely decreases sensation. Actually, if you read the rest of the thread, this has been pointed to as a good thing by a number of posters so this isn't even a common belief among the pro-circumcision crowd.

Cicumcision does serve actual medical purposes, it decreases the odds of getting an infection,

Not nearly as much as wearing a condom. The only medical reason to get circumcised is if the foreskin is too tight and doesn't retract, which is a rare medical condition.

just like removing a small dogs tail decreases the odds of an infection,

Actually, now there's no reason to dock tails (or ears) unless your dog is a working dog. Small dogs were often used to hunt vermin so their ears and tails were cropped. But in some places it's illegal to do these things to dogs anymore.

or removing a wisdom tooth.

Wisdom teeth are usually removed to prevent crowding of the teeth or because they're coming in crooked and will run into the other molars. There are a whole host of other reasons people get their wisdom teeth out.

What medical purpose would the type of abortion that I described serve,

The termination of a pregnancy.

and lasik is personal preference, in a modern society you can always where glasses.

It depends. If your vision is bad enough then having surgery to correct it to the point where it isn't horrible isn't necessarily a bad idea. Some people work at jobs where they can't wear glasses without causing problems and can't wear contacts. Also, this surgery isn't covered in the UK apparently anyway.

[Hyperiox]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

So does brushing your teeth, which takes longer than washing your penis.

Does that mean you don't brush your teeth every day?

implying second guy doesn't like touching his penis in the shower

Que?

I think what Tungookska means is: what type of guy doesn't touch himself in the shower.

[Blouman Empire]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

So does brushing your teeth, which takes longer than washing your penis.

Does that mean you don't brush your teeth every day?

implying second guy doesn't like touching his penis in the shower

Que?

I think what Tungookska means is: what type of guy doesn't touch himself in the shower.

Is there such a thing?

[Blouman Empire]

Food for thought

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/fo ... 5886438305

But since it is Africa who cares. Right?

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Hygienic reasons are just as absurd as if men can clean themselves daily normally don't need to about the build up of smegma.

Hygienic reasons for circumcision are perfectly good reasons to allow us to be lazy.

I support circumcision. Having to clean your dick once a day every day for your whole life would get reeeeeally tiring after a short while.

But some how billions of males around the world seem to be fine with it everyday.
Seriously you must be really fucking lazy to not pull back the skin on your penis, it doesn't even take 2 seconds.
And you don't HAVE to clean your penis every day, but you would have a stinky penis. Much like if you didn't wash everyday you would have a really stinky body.