by You-Gi-Owe » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:33 am
by Gauthier » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:34 am
by Grave_n_idle » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:37 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I'm wondering, is President Obama's current performance as POTUS spoiling the chance ...
by Vittos Ordination » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:43 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I'm wondering, is President Obama's current performance as POTUS spoiling the chance for a future African-American, Democratic Party Presidential candidate?
Will the next POTUS of African-American descent be from the Republican Party?
by You-Gi-Owe » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:49 am
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:52 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:The "independents" (re: conservative vs. liberal) might swing away from that Democratic Party candidate.
by You-Gi-Owe » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:54 am
by Conserative Morality » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:55 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:Well, there's still two and a half years to go..., but maybe.
by Krytenia » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:00 am
by You-Gi-Owe » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:27 am
Krytenia wrote:As a President, he ranks somewhere in the middle. Not terrible, but not stand-out awesome. The biggest barrier to a future black POTUS, in the short term, is a lack of stand-out candidates from either the Dems or the GOP. Unless Condoleeza (sp?) Rice decides to run in '12, of course.
by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:29 am
Vittos Ordination wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:I'm wondering, is President Obama's current performance as POTUS spoiling the chance for a future African-American, Democratic Party Presidential candidate?
Will the next POTUS of African-American descent be from the Republican Party?
I'm not seeing it. President Obama has always been very good on the issue of race, and I see his presidency as being largely post-racial.
Not everyone could pull it off because society itself is far from being post-racial, but I don't see the real immediate Barack -> Black president connection really being as strong as it could be.
by Natapoc » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:30 am
by Juristonia » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:31 am
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by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:31 am
Vittos Ordination wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:I'm wondering, is President Obama's current performance as POTUS spoiling the chance for a future African-American, Democratic Party Presidential candidate?
Will the next POTUS of African-American descent be from the Republican Party?
I'm not seeing it. President Obama has always been very good on the issue of race, and I see his presidency as being largely post-racial.
Not everyone could pull it off because society itself is far from being post-racial, but I don't see the real immediate Barack -> Black president connection really being as strong as it could be.
by Sibirsky » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:34 am
by You-Gi-Owe » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:45 am
Juristonia wrote:More important question. Does it matter?
Both sides should focus on who the best candidate is.
Colour is irrelevant.
by Angleter » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:47 am
by Treznor » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:48 am
Angleter wrote:I don't think so. The only really prominent black Republican is Condi Rice, and she's forever tarnished by Bush.
by Tekania » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:50 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:
I don't see much of a supporting argument on this question.
I believe the Republican Party will be looking for a charismatic black man in the near future, to run for the office. One with solid conservative credentials.
I believe the next black man the Democrats put forward will be more of what Obama is.
The "independents" (re: conservative vs. liberal) might swing away from that Democratic Party candidate.
by Treznor » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:51 am
Tekania wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:
I don't see much of a supporting argument on this question.
I believe the Republican Party will be looking for a charismatic black man in the near future, to run for the office. One with solid conservative credentials.
I believe the next black man the Democrats put forward will be more of what Obama is.
The "independents" (re: conservative vs. liberal) might swing away from that Democratic Party candidate.
The last time the RNC decided to come up with a charismatic candidate for a VP/POTUS race we ended up with this:
by Angleter » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:55 am
Treznor wrote:Angleter wrote:I don't think so. The only really prominent black Republican is Condi Rice, and she's forever tarnished by Bush.
Powell is still prominent, and he managed to extricate himself early enough. Powell is possibly the only Republican I might consider voting for, because he's the only one I've seen in twenty years to demonstrate anything in the way of integrity.
by Rolamec » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:55 am
Tekania wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:
I don't see much of a supporting argument on this question.
I believe the Republican Party will be looking for a charismatic black man in the near future, to run for the office. One with solid conservative credentials.
I believe the next black man the Democrats put forward will be more of what Obama is.
The "independents" (re: conservative vs. liberal) might swing away from that Democratic Party candidate.
The last time the RNC decided to come up with a charismatic candidate for a VP/POTUS race we ended up with this:
by Treznor » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:58 am
Angleter wrote:Treznor wrote:Angleter wrote:I don't think so. The only really prominent black Republican is Condi Rice, and she's forever tarnished by Bush.
Powell is still prominent, and he managed to extricate himself early enough. Powell is possibly the only Republican I might consider voting for, because he's the only one I've seen in twenty years to demonstrate anything in the way of integrity.
Colin Powell? He endorsed teh ebil socialist muslim Obama over teh ebil liberal RINO McCain, so the chances of him getting through the primaries are close to nil.
by Ashmoria » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:58 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I'm wondering, is President Obama's current performance as POTUS spoiling the chance for a future African-American, Democratic Party Presidential candidate?
Will the next POTUS of African-American descent be from the Republican Party?
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