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Postby Linux and the X » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:15 pm

Seriously. It's a fucking term. Some people prefer it because they consider it more precise than 'American'. Why is it such a huge problem when people use it?
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Postby Inertina » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:17 pm

USians don't like it because it denies Manifest Destiny.

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Postby Shia Majority » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:17 pm

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Postby The High Lizzleness » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:18 pm

I think it sounds kinda dumb. I don't really care if people use it, though.
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Postby Takaram » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:18 pm

It is technically not the correct term. I prefer American, and use American, but I don't really get that up tight about it. It is not really more correct, because the nation is named the United States of America. I don't really get why people like it so much, since no one uses UKian or PRian.

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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:19 pm

Linux and the X wrote:Seriously. It's a fucking term. Some people prefer it because they consider it more precise than 'American'. Why is it such a huge problem when people use it?


It's not what I, nor a lot of other people, want to be called. It's a visually unappealing, unpronounceable adjectived/nouned acronym. There's plenty of other acceptable terms, that aren't American, if somebody finds that term to be soooooo offensive.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:20 pm

Because, as the official name of Mexico is the Estados Unidos Mexicanos, which, if translated, would be the "United States of Mexico", we don't want to be confused with Mexicans.

We prefer a more precise term - Americans.
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Postby Ryadn » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:20 pm

It sounds stupid. It's petty and reactionary. I say "U.S. American". No one calls Brits "UKians". And no one has adequately explained to me why there's a random "i" in it.

If you want to continually stress the very important point that the Americas are continents, because those of us with an education that went beyond 5th grade really need to be reminded, at the very LEAST the term should be "USers". "United Staters" sounds better than "United Statesians". Or how about "USites"?
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:21 pm

Oh God, here we go again...

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Postby Gift-of-god » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:22 pm

Usonian.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:22 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Oh God, here we go again...

It's like NSG's time of the month.
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Postby Chumblywumbly » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:24 pm

Linux and the X wrote:What's so bad about 'USian'?

It gets an inexplicably large amount of posters hot under the collar.
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Postby Andaluciae » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:25 pm

Gift-of-god wrote:Usonian.

FLW FTW.


A term I actually rather like. It conveys a very specific idea--tying the concept of being a citizen of the country more closely to the laws the country is based on, rather than some perceived "national" origin in the traditional (especially European ethnic) sense.
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Postby Saurisia » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:25 pm

USian sounds kinda stupid and nonsensical to me, really, you don't see people calling Englishmen Ukers, do you?
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Postby The High Lizzleness » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:26 pm

Galloism wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Oh God, here we go again...

It's like NSG's time of the month.


Someone should get some chocolate... or something... What is an internet forum's version of chocolate? Meh, must still be chocolate. Chocolate is universal.
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Postby Chazicaria » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:28 pm

Galloism wrote:Because, as the official name of Mexico is the Estados Unidos Mexicanos, which, if translated, would be the "United States of Mexico", we don't want to be confused with Mexicans.

We prefer a more precise term - Americans.

This.

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Postby Brogavia » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:29 pm

Its just what petty trolls use to skirt the rules.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:29 pm

Linux and the X wrote:Seriously. It's a fucking term. Some people prefer it because they consider it more precise than 'American'. Why is it such a huge problem when people use it?


USians is used on this forum by some for the express purpose of pissing Americans off. Personally I assume, when I read someone using USian, that they're actually trying to spell Asian, but had a typo. :p
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Postby The Bleeding Roses » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:29 pm

Been dozens of these threads, use the search function.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:30 pm

Ryadn wrote:It sounds stupid. It's petty and reactionary. I say "U.S. American". No one calls Brits "UKians". And no one has adequately explained to me why there's a random "i" in it.

If you want to continually stress the very important point that the Americas are continents, because those of us with an education that went beyond 5th grade really need to be reminded, at the very LEAST the term should be "USers". "United Staters" sounds better than "United Statesians". Or how about "USites"?


Actually, I have. :D
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Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...


Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo


Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.


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Postby Alexlantis » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:31 pm

Takaram wrote:It is technically not the correct term. I prefer American, and use American, but I don't really get that up tight about it. It is not really more correct, because the nation is named the United States of America. I don't really get why people like it so much, since no one uses UKian or PRian.

Exactly. It sounds a bit retarded, but I realy don't mind whether "American" or "USian" is used. However, there are the United States of Mexico, so calling us Americans USians would get confusing. In Spanish, we're called Estadosunidensos, which works. There's nothing in English that matches that, and several people from South America get pissed off if you say you're American and they aren't, because they see America as North and South America, as in the Americas.
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Postby The High Lizzleness » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:31 pm

The Bleeding Roses wrote:Been dozens of these threads, use the search function.

If we didn't redo threads, what would we talk about?!
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:32 pm

The High Lizzleness wrote:
The Bleeding Roses wrote:Been dozens of these threads, use the search function.

If we didn't redo threads, what would we talk about?!


We'd talk about cheese.
Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

Any accident you can walk away from is one I can laugh at.

DOJ's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment: http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/fi ... -p0126.pdf

Natapoc wrote:...You should post more in here so I don't seem like the extremist...


Auraelius wrote:If you take the the TITANIC, and remove the letters T, T, and one of the I's, and add the letters C,O,S,P,R, and Y you get CONSPIRACY. oOooOooooOOOooooOOOOOOoooooooo


Maineiacs wrote:Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and get drunk all day.


Luw wrote:Politics is like having two handfuls of shit - one that smells bad and one that looks bad - and having to decide which one to put in your mouth.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:32 pm

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Takaram wrote:It is technically not the correct term. I prefer American, and use American, but I don't really get that up tight about it. It is not really more correct, because the nation is named the United States of America. I don't really get why people like it so much, since no one uses UKian or PRian.

Exactly. It sounds a bit retarded, but I realy don't mind whether "American" or "USian" is used. However, there are the United States of Mexico, so calling us Americans USians would get confusing. In Spanish, we're called Estadosunidensos, which works. There's nothing in English that matches that, and several people from South America get pissed off if you say you're American and they aren't, because they see America as North and South America, as in the Americas.

You know, I've heard that claimed at least once in each of these threads that have been on NSG.

However, I've never actually *seen* it. Care to bring some proof to the table that any people from North, Central, or South America get upset at the Americans referring to themselves as Americans?
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Postby Demoness » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:33 pm

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