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by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:35 am
by Stellar Colonies » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:47 am
Putin acknowledges ‘radical Islamists’ carried out Moscow terror attack (Politico)
But he also implied Ukraine ordered it, in another attempt to deflect blame onto the country his own forces have invaded.Russian President Vladimir Putin for the first time on Monday acknowledged that last week’s terror attack in Moscow was carried out by Islamic militants, but once again attempted to pin the blame on his favorite scapegoat Ukraine.
“We know that the crime was carried out by radical Islamists,” Putin said in televised remarks after a videoconference meeting with regional officials, special services and law enforcement agencies. But he added the Kremlin was investigating “who ordered” the attack and implied Kyiv was responsible.
“The question that arises is who benefits from this? This atrocity may be just a link in a whole series of attempts by those who have been at war with our country since 2014 by the hands of the neo-Nazi Kyiv regime,” Putin claimed.
In 2014, Russia illegally invaded Crimea and annexed it from Ukraine, and Kremlin-backed fighters seized territory in eastern Ukraine. In 2022, Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
Heading off potential questions about the Kremlin’s security failings, particularly given the U.S. Embassy in Russia warned that Islamic militants were planning to attack Moscow earlier this month, Putin immediately sought to blame Ukraine for last Friday’s massacre. But with no evidence to back up his assertion that Kyiv was behind the attack, and with a branch of the Islamic State jihadist group claiming responsibility and releasing footage of the shooting, Putin was finally forced to name-check ISIS on Monday.
Yet Putin, who has built his authoritarian regime on a strong-man image, hinted that Russia’s cozy relationship with Hamas and stance on Israel’s war in Gaza meant the country would not be an ISIS target.
“Are radical and even terrorist Islamic organizations really interested in striking Russia, which today stands for a fair solution to the escalating Middle East conflict?” Putin asked during Monday’s videoconference — ignoring Islamic State’s long-standing beef with his country.
Putin propped up the regime of autocrat Bashar al-Assad against the Islamic State during the Syrian civil war; in September 2022, ISIS militants claimed responsibility for a deadly attack on the Russian Embassy in Kabul. A branch of ISIS also operates in the Caucasus, including in Chechnya, where separatists have for years violently attempted to see off Russia’s rule.
Kyiv, meanwhile, has vehemently denied any link to last week’s terror attack and accused Putin of using it to justify further aggression on Ukraine.
“It’s obvious that Putin and other thugs are just trying to blame someone else,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in his nightly address on Saturday.
“Their methods are always the same. We’ve seen it all before, destroyed buildings and shootings and explosions. And they always find someone else to blame,” he added.
The attack at Crocus City Hall in Moscow last Friday was Russia’s deadliest in 20 years, leaving at least 139 dead and the building in flames. Seven men have now been arrested in connection with the attack.
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by Paddy O Fernature » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:54 am
Moloto Japan wrote:I am shocked by what have happened. This was so tragic and sad. But there were reasons.
Anyway, I know that It is Ukraine and U.S involved in this operation. U.S Did warn Russia of an Attack, And I guess they actually did collaborate with Ukraine to do the attack. The Attackers were going back to Ukraine, and Putin is getting Vengeance for all the lost lives of the Russians.
Ukraine: They themself has denied their involvement.
U.S: They did try to warn russia, which gives a hint that U.S actually knew of the attack. And I know that ISIS and ISIL is actually funded by the U.S, just some different name, because U.S.A kinda hates muslims, even though I myself am a Muslim. I do know that ISIS and ISIL are operated by the us, because they want to cement their grip on power.
Russia: Their attack left a devastating Mark, since this was their first major terror attack in History, after the 2000 Moscow Apartment Bombings.
Russia claims to get back Vengeance at whoever caused the attacks, and they did blame most of it on Ukraine. Putin did launch a severe Bombing attack on Ukraine, with the third attack in 5 days.
ISIS: They have claimed responsibility. Just days ago, Russia and China rejected the Proposal of a U.S Led Ceasefire.
NO OFFENSE!: I think ISIS and ISIL were ordered by the U.S to claim Responsibility. I did saw from the Pictures that They looked like Ukrainian or Arab.
Anyways, I myself did side up with the Russians, but I will not deny this: They are killing innocent children.
by Turenia » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:16 am
by Port Carverton » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:53 am
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:The Russian FSB chief has just claimed that the US, UK, and Ukraine were behind the Moscow attack. What a cock.
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by The Apollonian Systems » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:19 am
Anarcopia wrote:The Apollonian Systems wrote:Good thing this isn’t a conspiracy theory, they’re already fucking doing it and Russian propaganda is already describing Russian attacks against Ukraine as “revenge”.
I think it's just your understanding of the English language that's the problem. A "conspiracy" just defines a group of people secretly planning together (conspiring) in order to achieve a goal that isn't publicly shared that may be something nefarious or manipulative. And the definition of a "theory" is basically a system of ideas intended to explain something else, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
So yes your comment "This is just gonna be used as justification to kill more Ukrainians." is a theory to explain how the Russian government may be conspiring to use these attacks in order to manipulate the perception of reality by their citizens (political and military propaganda).
There's no need to be so defensive - people are jailed for conspiring all the time and conspiring has been a regular occurrence throughout human history. In addition to that, most of the greatest minds of our time were famous theorizers - so you're in great company my friend!
by Khardsland » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:31 am
Picairn wrote:Moloto Japan wrote:Anyway, I know that It is Ukraine and U.S involved in this operation. U.S Did warn Russia of an Attack, And I guess they actually did collaborate with Ukraine to do the attack. The Attackers were going back to Ukraine, and Putin is getting Vengeance for all the lost lives of the Russians.
You read too many conspiracy theories on tankie Internet.
by Anarcopia » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:25 am
The Apollonian Systems wrote:It’s not a conspiracy theory when it’s actually happening. It’s not even a theory. I posted that comment because I was already seeing Russians propaganda blaming the Ukrainians.
The Apollonian Systems wrote: And yah when conspiracy theorists say shit like Great Tartaria built every stone building to y their psychic e every power plants or that Jews hired ISIS to attack Russia or that the earth is flat I’m not goo my to associate myself with those people, they’re hardly “great minds”.
by The Apollonian Systems » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:07 pm
Anarcopia wrote:The Apollonian Systems wrote:It’s not a conspiracy theory when it’s actually happening. It’s not even a theory. I posted that comment because I was already seeing Russians propaganda blaming the Ukrainians.
You've just described a conspiracy for the second time- I think it's just your understanding of the English language that's the problem. For some reason you think "conspiracy" means something that is not actually happening or something that isn't real? If you're not a native English speaker, you can just use an online dictionary to research its definition.
To help you along the way, I've posted the definition of a conspiracy for the second time here: A "conspiracy" just defines a group of people secretly planning together (conspiring) in order to achieve a goal that isn't publicly shared that may be something nefarious or manipulative.The Apollonian Systems wrote: And yah when conspiracy theorists say shit like Great Tartaria built every stone building to y their psychic e every power plants or that Jews hired ISIS to attack Russia or that the earth is flat I’m not goo my to associate myself with those people, they’re hardly “great minds”.
Are you drunk again?
by The Apollonian Systems » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:11 pm
by Bombadil » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:00 pm
Turenia wrote:Lukashenko says Moscow terrorists tried fleeing to Belarus first
Putin narrative destroyed
by Tarsonis » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:08 pm
Bombadil wrote:Turenia wrote:Lukashenko says Moscow terrorists tried fleeing to Belarus first
Putin narrative destroyed
What? No.. surely their cunning escape route was to pick their way through a mass of Russian armed forces on the Ukrainian border..
Meanwhile..
By the time the men accused of murdering 137 people at a concert on Friday night appeared in court in Moscow on Sunday, their faces were swollen and disfigured, their eyes vacant.
One, named as Saidakrami Murodali Rachabalizoda, arrived with gauze over his ear. A video released online showed one of his captors, who appeared to be Russian military personnel, slicing off his ear and shoving it in his mouth, telling him to eat it. Others beat him with their rifle butts.
After his arrest, Shamsidin Fariduni appeared in a photo lying on the floor of a school gym, his pants pulled down around his knees and with wires connected his genital area. The photograph was published by a Telegram channel connected to the Wagner paramilitary group and suggested Fariduni had been shocked with 80 volts and water had been poured over his body to “intensify the effect”.
Dalerdzhon Barotovich Mirzoyev arrived with new bruises after his interrogation. He also had a plastic bag wrapped around his neck that observers think might have been used to asphyxiate him.
Muhammadsobir Fayzov was brought into the courtroom in a wheelchair and appeared to lose consciousness during the hearing. Photographs circulating online appeared to show that one of his eyes was missing, Reuters reported.
Who's to say they didn't just pluck four funny looking people and committed heinous acts of torture on them.
Honestly, I have little sympathy for Russia.
by Paddy O Fernature » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:10 pm
Bombadil wrote:Turenia wrote:Lukashenko says Moscow terrorists tried fleeing to Belarus first
Putin narrative destroyed
What? No.. surely their cunning escape route was to pick their way through a mass of Russian armed forces on the Ukrainian border..
Meanwhile..
By the time the men accused of murdering 137 people at a concert on Friday night appeared in court in Moscow on Sunday, their faces were swollen and disfigured, their eyes vacant.
One, named as Saidakrami Murodali Rachabalizoda, arrived with gauze over his ear. A video released online showed one of his captors, who appeared to be Russian military personnel, slicing off his ear and shoving it in his mouth, telling him to eat it. Others beat him with their rifle butts.
After his arrest, Shamsidin Fariduni appeared in a photo lying on the floor of a school gym, his pants pulled down around his knees and with wires connected his genital area. The photograph was published by a Telegram channel connected to the Wagner paramilitary group and suggested Fariduni had been shocked with 80 volts and water had been poured over his body to “intensify the effect”.
Dalerdzhon Barotovich Mirzoyev arrived with new bruises after his interrogation. He also had a plastic bag wrapped around his neck that observers think might have been used to asphyxiate him.
Muhammadsobir Fayzov was brought into the courtroom in a wheelchair and appeared to lose consciousness during the hearing. Photographs circulating online appeared to show that one of his eyes was missing, Reuters reported.
Who's to say they didn't just pluck four funny looking people and committed heinous acts of torture on them.
Honestly, I have little sympathy for Russia.
by Turenia » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:15 pm
Bombadil wrote:Who's to say they didn't just pluck four funny looking people and committed heinous acts of torture on them.
Honestly, I have little sympathy for Russia.
by Farnhamia » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:41 pm
Anarcopia wrote:The Apollonian Systems wrote:It’s not a conspiracy theory when it’s actually happening. It’s not even a theory. I posted that comment because I was already seeing Russians propaganda blaming the Ukrainians.
You've just described a conspiracy for the second time- I think it's just your understanding of the English language that's the problem. For some reason you think "conspiracy" means something that is not actually happening or something that isn't real? If you're not a native English speaker, you can just use an online dictionary to research its definition.
To help you along the way, I've posted the definition of a conspiracy for the second time here: A "conspiracy" just defines a group of people secretly planning together (conspiring) in order to achieve a goal that isn't publicly shared that may be something nefarious or manipulative.The Apollonian Systems wrote: And yah when conspiracy theorists say shit like Great Tartaria built every stone building to y their psychic e every power plants or that Jews hired ISIS to attack Russia or that the earth is flat I’m not goo my to associate myself with those people, they’re hardly “great minds”.
Are you drunk again?
by Rusrunia » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:59 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:11 pm
by Bombadil » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:15 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:This escalation in the use of force by pro-western forces is completely unacceptable. I never thought that they would target a concert hall full of innocents.
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:33 pm
On the evening of March 22, a terrorist attack targeted the Crocus City Hall music venue in Krasnogorsk, Moscow Region, just over the Moscow city limits. The current death toll is 139, and 182 people were injured. Eleven individuals suspected of being involved in the terrorist attack have been apprehended, including four gunmen who were detained in the Bryansk Region, southwest of Moscow, as they attempted to seek refuge by crossing the nearby Ukrainian border. President Vladimir Putin said in a televised address that, according to preliminary information, the Ukrainian side had prepared "a window" in the border especially for the terrorists to cross undetected. He promised to identify and punish all those who were behind the attack on Crocus City Hall.
by The Two Jerseys » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:37 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:Bombadil wrote:
The fuck you talking about, ISIS isn't pro-western.
https://tass.com/politics/1765845On the evening of March 22, a terrorist attack targeted the Crocus City Hall music venue in Krasnogorsk, Moscow Region, just over the Moscow city limits. The current death toll is 139, and 182 people were injured. Eleven individuals suspected of being involved in the terrorist attack have been apprehended, including four gunmen who were detained in the Bryansk Region, southwest of Moscow, as they attempted to seek refuge by crossing the nearby Ukrainian border. President Vladimir Putin said in a televised address that, according to preliminary information, the Ukrainian side had prepared "a window" in the border especially for the terrorists to cross undetected. He promised to identify and punish all those who were behind the attack on Crocus City Hall.
by Paddy O Fernature » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:49 pm
by Bombadil » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:50 pm
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