Should Turkey be a Federation ?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Federalism is a system of governance that involves the division of powers between a central government and regional or local governments. It has been implemented in various countries around the world, aiming to promote decentralization, enhance regional autonomy, and manage diversity. This article explores the question of whether Turkey should adopt federalism as its governing structure. By examining the potential advantages and challenges associated with federalism, we can gain insights into the potential benefits and drawbacks of such a system for Turkey.

Advantages of Federalism:

Power Sharing and Regional Autonomy:
Federalism allows for the sharing of power between the central government and regional entities. In the case of Turkey, adopting federalism could provide greater autonomy to regions, such as Kurdistan, which have distinct cultural, linguistic, and historical identities. It could address longstanding demands for self-governance and promote inclusivity.

Effective Governance:
Federal systems often lead to more efficient and effective governance by allowing local authorities to address specific regional needs. By delegating certain responsibilities to regional governments, decision-making can be streamlined, enabling policies that are more responsive to local concerns. This can result in improved public service delivery and development outcomes.

Conflict Management:
Turkey has faced longstanding conflicts and tensions in certain regions. Federalism has the potential to mitigate such conflicts by granting regions greater decision-making authority and encouraging dialogue between different groups. It can provide a framework for peaceful coexistence and dispute resolution by accommodating diverse interests and aspirations.

Challenges of Federalism:

Territorial Integrity:
One of the main concerns surrounding federalism is the potential threat to the territorial integrity of the nation. Critics argue that adopting federalism in Turkey could encourage secessionist aspirations, leading to the fragmentation of the country. Ensuring a balance between regional autonomy and national unity would be crucial to address this challenge.

Socioeconomic Disparities:
Federalism may exacerbate socioeconomic disparities between regions. While some regions might possess greater economic resources and development potential, others could lag behind. Effective mechanisms for resource distribution and equalization would be essential to mitigate such disparities and ensure balanced development across the country.

Administrative Complexities:
Implementing federalism requires establishing new administrative structures and institutions, which can be complex and time-consuming. It would involve redefining the relationship between the central government and regional entities, drafting new constitutions or constitutional amendments, and redistributing powers and resources. Navigating these administrative challenges requires careful planning and a broad consensus among different stakeholders.

In my opinion
The idea of ​​a federation is getting stronger day by day because pro-European Kemalist social democrats like me don't have to live with others [political Islamists and Kurdish Nationalists]. their conscience and morals are different from our worldview.

[Cuba 2022 RP]

Turkey should go even further and become a Confederation

[New haven america]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

[Imperiul Romanum]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

Yea, the Bizantine Empire had Instambul as Capital

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

Are you aware of how difficult the human and cultural integration that can create a regional occupation can be ? Or are you aware of this and want to oppress the people of Turkey and Greece with your own evil imperialist racist feelings ?

[Shieldstan]

It should Probably Become a federation

[New haven america]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

1. Are you aware of how difficult the human and cultural integration that can 2. create a regional occupation can be ? 3. Or are you aware of this and want to oppress the people of Turkey and Greece with your own evil imperialist racist feelings ?

1. Western Turks are Greeks cosplaying as Ottomans, at 80% of the population being mainly of Greco-Roman heritage.
2. Remind me, who owned Anatolia before the Ottomans? And how did the Ottomans get that?
3. I mean, I think Greece would be pretty happy about it.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

Yea, the Bizantine Empire had Instambul as Capital

Byzantium was destroyed in 1453 by the hero Fatih Sultan Mehmed. Just as the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1923. Please, all right-wing religious racists, keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.

1. Are you aware of how difficult the human and cultural integration that can 2. create a regional occupation can be ? 3. Or are you aware of this and want to oppress the people of Turkey and Greece with your own evil imperialist racist feelings ?

1. Western Turks are Greeks cosplaying as Ottomans, at 80% of the population being mainly of Greco-Roman heritage.
2. Remind me, who owned Anatolia before the Ottomans? And how did the Ottomans get that?
3. I mean, I think Greece would be pretty happy about it.

In short, you admit to being racist. I want to give you a historical lesson. After Lausanne, there was a population exchange. Being a Turk is a matter of race for you, for me it is a United States-style phenomenon that can be identified with an identity card. Racists cannot exist in Europe !

[Cuba 2022 RP]

I disagree that Thrace and Istanbul should be given to Greece when the majority of people don’t want to and doing so would be a violation of self-determination, however I wouldn’t call any Ottoman sultans “heros” either.

[New haven america]

Yea, the Bizantine Empire had Instambul as Capital

Byzantium was destroyed in 1453 by the hero Fatih Sultan Mehmed. Just as the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1923. Please, all right-wing religious racists, keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.

1. Western Turks are Greeks cosplaying as Ottomans, at 80% of the population being mainly of Greco-Roman heritage.
2. Remind me, who owned Anatolia before the Ottomans? And how did the Ottomans get that?
3. I mean, I think Greece would be pretty happy about it.

1. In short, you admit to being racist. I want to give you a historical lesson. After Lausanne, there was a population exchange. Being a Turk is a matter of race for you, for me it is a United States-style phenomenon that can be identified with an identity card. 2. Racists cannot exist in Europe !

1. I don't see how I can be racist to white people given both Greeks and Turks are White. I'd argue that it'd be more racist to consider them not, a la 1920's discrimination of Southern Europeans and Celts.

Why are you racist to Southern Europeans?

2. This is what most Europeans say when they're screaming calls of genocide at Roma.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Byzantium was destroyed in 1453 by the hero Fatih Sultan Mehmed. Just as the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1923. Please, all right-wing religious racists, keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.

1. In short, you admit to being racist. I want to give you a historical lesson. After Lausanne, there was a population exchange. Being a Turk is a matter of race for you, for me it is a United States-style phenomenon that can be identified with an identity card. 2. Racists cannot exist in Europe !

1. I don't see how I can be racist to white people given both Greeks and Turks are White. I'd argue that it'd be more racist to consider them not, a la 1920's discrimination of Southern Europeans and Celts.

Why are you racist to Southern Europeans?

2. This is what most Europeans say when they're screaming calls of genocide at Roma.

I repeat, being Turkish is not a matter of race, it is a matter of identity. For example, a child born in England to English parents may also be Turkish, but this is out of our scope. According to the Lausanne agreement, population exchange was carried out. Turks and Muslims living in Greece were sent to Turkey, and Turks of Greek origin living in Turkey were sent to Greece. If you really thought of Turks and Greeks instead of a regional invasion, you would talk about a united state, not a single invasion of Greece. [Hellenoturkism]

[Durius]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

So that overnight Turks become the majority in Greece? I can imagine how well is going to go...

Byzantium was destroyed in 1453 by the hero Fatih Sultan Mehmed. Just as the Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1923. Please, all right-wing religious racists, keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.

Ahahahah. Mate, secular Turkey is as alive as Byzantium and the Ottoman Empire are.

I repeat, being Turkish is not a matter of race, it is a matter of identity. For example, a child born in England to English parents may also be Turkish, but this is out of our scope. According to the Lausanne agreement, population exchange was carried out. Turks and Muslims living in Greece were sent to Turkey, and Turks of Greek origin living in Turkey were sent to Greece. If you really thought of Turks and Greeks instead of a regional invasion, you would talk about a united state, not a single invasion of Greece. [Hellenoturkism]

Meh, it was first and foremost about religion.

[Kaliitnuunati]

I believe the Laz people, who are genetically the same as Georgians and who historically were apart of Georgia and had a Kartvelian culture (as well as the modern Laz language being Kartvelian), should be allowed to return to Georgia, as well as the land they inhabit.

If people want to federalize Turkey for its minorities, why not make turkey mono-ethnic? It's what Atatürk wanted, and Kurds, Laz and Pontic Greeks are the only major NATIVE minorities in turkey, all of which except Kurds make up a small amount of the population and territory.

I am from Georgia, so I have spoken to some Laz myself about it.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

It seems that all Turkish enemies gathered on the subject. I am happy that the topic serves as litmus paper. Now the Federation must be supported because political Islamists and we modern Turks are different. Political Islamists come from a misogynistic homophobic Middle Eastern culture. We Kemalists are modern people who have turned to the European Union.

1)President Ekrem İmamoğlu
2)President Tanju Özcan

[Jetan]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

The glaring problem with that idea is that it more correctly amounts to giving Greece to Eastern Thrace and Istanbul than the other way around. Both of those regions alone have bigger populations than all of Greece combined, and together they'd make up over 70% of the population of the new country.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

The glaring problem with that idea is that it more correctly amounts to giving Greece to Eastern Thrace and Istanbul than the other way around. Both of those regions alone have bigger populations than all of Greece combined, and together they'd make up over 70% of the population of the new country.

The idea of ​​Megali Idea is just like Putin's invasion of Ukraine. I think fascists like Putin are everywhere. But don't worry, our Greek friends know how to deal with these racists, unlike the Turks.

[Digital Planets]

The glaring problem with that idea is that it more correctly amounts to giving Greece to Eastern Thrace and Istanbul than the other way around. Both of those regions alone have bigger populations than all of Greece combined, and together they'd make up over 70% of the population of the new country.

The idea of ​​Megali Idea is just like Putin's invasion of Ukraine. I think fascists like Putin are everywhere. But don't worry, our Greek friends know how to deal with these racists, unlike the Turks.

Mmm, doubtful, not with the Golden Dawn running around. Not enough rope for all of them.

[ARIsyan-]

I think Turkey would benefit with some sort of deal with their eastern Kurdish regions to form an autonomous region there, however a full blown federation probably isn't really necessary for non-Kurdish Turkey given that it's generally quite culturally homogeneous

[The Republic of Covelandia]

no way, a mix of both socioeconomic and regional autonomy could topple the middle easts, already fragile geopolitics into even worse and disgusting war and civil unrest. if turkey was a federation regions of Armenian and Kurdish descent might rebel and because of socioeconomic problems they might even have problems keeping up, plus if a kurdish or armenian uprising is successful it could spread too other countries and could lead too the turkish states demise if it isnt delt with well. along with civil war and proxy war occuring in other countries.

[El Lazaro]

Libturds: federalism is good because it places more decision-making in the hands of the people and limits the overall power of any one political authority
HHKD: Muslims and Kurds are icky, get them away from me

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

That is one of the worst geopolitical takes of 2023. But I support it for the sole purpose of making everyone’s heads explode.

[Vistulange]

3. I mean, I think Greece would be pretty happy about it.

Yes, I, too, support making Greece a Turkish-majority state. We began with one nation-state, we'll make it two. And then, three. Then we'll be everywhere. The masterplan is in motion.

President Tanju Özcan

Figures. Of course you support the loudest populist idiot in town.

You are such a literal caricature of everything about Turkish politics.

[El Lazaro]

It seems that all Turkish enemies gathered on the subject. I am happy that the topic serves as litmus paper. Now the Federation must be supported because political Islamists and we modern Turks are different. Political Islamists come from a misogynistic homophobic Middle Eastern culture. We Kemalists are modern people who have turned to the European Union.

1)President Ekrem İmamoğlu
2)President Tanju Özcan

Kemalism will fall to tradition and globalism!

1. President Joe Biden
2. Prime Minister Abu Rasasa Mohammad bin Salman al-Saud

[Bahrimontagn]

Turkey should remain Unitary. Becoming a federation just gives more ammo to the Kurds, and in turn makes turkey more vulnerable to Western manipulation.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The idea of ​​Megali Idea is just like Putin's invasion of Ukraine. I think fascists like Putin are everywhere. But don't worry, our Greek friends know how to deal with these racists, unlike the Turks.

Mmm, doubtful, not with the Golden Dawn running around. Not enough rope for all of them.

Whatever crimes people commit, I think that execution is against human rights. Do I look like a religious conservative when I look at it from there ?

President Tanju Özcan

Figures. Of course you support the loudest populist idiot in town.

You are such a literal caricature of everything about Turkish politics.

Do you want me to support Kılıçdaroğlu, who loses every election ? The concept that people like you don't understand is "Anatolian ignorance". You underestimate ignorance. Helalleşmiyorum ! Benim Oyumla Malumların Oyu Bir Değil !

Ekrem İmamoğlu should be the head of the 1st region shown on the map. The head of the 2nd region should be Tanju Özcan.

Libturds: federalism is good because it places more decision-making in the hands of the people and limits the overall power of any one political authority
HHKD: Muslims and Kurds are icky, get them away from me

I think Thrace and its side of Istanbul should be given to Greece.

That is one of the worst geopolitical takes of 2023. But I support it for the sole purpose of making everyone’s heads explode.

Don't twist my words, I don't have a problem with Kurds or Muslims, but I have a problem with political Islamists and Kurdish fascism. I come to life only once and do I have to breathe the same air as these people. If you like it that much, try living with these people in Turkey.

[Saiwana]

Federalism is a terrible idea in that it's failed to work wherever it's been tried. It's one of the core factors holding back the US' progress and ability to compete with more unitary and organized nations. It is purposely tolerating a bureaucratic inefficiency and handicap to any policy work getting done.