Georgia's Move to Ban Abortion.

[Grave_n_idle]

Georgia has made a concerted step to circumvent Roe v's Wade:

Georgia Passes Nation's First Embryo Adoption Law

ATLANTA -- By a vote of 108 to 61, the Georgia House sent the nation's first ever embryo adoption bill, HB 388, to the desk of Governor Sonny Perdue for him to sign into law.

"We are pleased that we are making headway in our goal of establishing personhood for the pre-born" says Daniel Becker, President of Georgia Right to Life. "Gone are the terms designating the human child at an embryonic stage as property ... devoid of rights." says Becker.

The language of the bill stops short of declaring full personhood for the child but does introduce new terms that acknowledge for the first time that an embryo has "rights and responsibilities" that are owed to it under Georgia law. "Legal embryo custodian" replaces "embryo donor" throughout Georgia's new code sections dealing with embryo adoption. No longer is an embryo described as being "donated" by its genetic parent.

"Gametes, cars, old clothes and other property are 'donated'" says the bill's author, House Rep. James Mills, "not children ... they are adopted."

It also clarifies that an embryo's life begins "at a single-celled" stage. "This is an important distinction as we see the medical community attempt to lessen the personhood of an embryo by re-defining a zygote to be a 'pre-embryo'" says Becker.

http://www.thevoicemagazine.com/headlin ... n-law.html


So - they are quite open and up front about the intent of the bill to define life as beginning at the moment of conception, and they have allocated rights to single-cells that grant them a legal status as individuals.

What horrifies me most, is that this could be used to stop abortion completely. If you declare the pregnant woman unfit to make decisions for her offspring - such as, if she seeks abortion - you can take away her status as custodian, and force her to carry to term a baby allocated to another person, or the state.

[Grays Harbor]

While I am pretty darn proud of being a Georgian, I have never made the claim that our legislature is any more immune to "stupid shit syndrome" than any other states. I just hope the Guv vetoes this twaddle quickly.

EDIT - crap. I just saw where Purdue has already signed it.

[Secruss]

"What horrifies me most, is that this could be used to stop abortion completely. If you declare the pregnant woman unfit to make decisions for her offspring - such as, if she seeks abortion - you can take away her status as custodian, and force her to carry to term a baby allocated to another person, or the state."

Killing it is a decision for the baby?

[Enadail]

Not to mention, they're trying to define terms that the medical community CAME UP WITH. Again, a case of the scienceless trying to control science.

[South East Europe]

This is outrageous! You know what? Georgia is being stupid!

[New Mitanni]

Eventually, the abomination that is Roe v. Wade will be overturned, and the issue of destroying the unborn will be turned back to the states, from whom it was illegitimately seized in 1973. Hopefully, this is one more step in that direction.

Thank God for Georgia.

[Concurria]

IIRC, the embryo is only a single-cell for a short while as in like... mere fractions of a second?

I forget when the divisions begin.

[Tosler]

Georgia is undoubtedly a Republican state. That is why I'm not surprised. What news source did you get this story from?

[Poliwanacraca]

Ugh. Pretty freaking stupid.

[Grays Harbor]

This is outrageous! You know what? Georgia is being stupid!

No. Georgian legislators and the Guv are being stupid for caving in to special interest groups. Georgians, on the other hand, tend to be a bit more pragmatic and of the "stay out of my business" variety.

I need to find out if my representative voted for this tripe.

[Vervaria]

Good God Georgia, this is ridiculous.

[Grays Harbor]

here is the actual law as passed by the legislature

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2009_10/sum/hb388.htm

[Grave_n_idle]

Georgia is undoubtedly a Republican state. That is why I'm not surprised. What news source did you get this story from?

I got this link from a Christian magazine that is basically carrying it as their banner story of the day - but I've seen it on the front pages of several local papers.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

75% of single-celled 'humans' end up being rinsed from the body during meunstration. They better hire a hell of a lot of rescue workers because every bloody tampon in America will need emergency life-saving care on site just in case.

[Greed and Death]

All they are trying to do is find a way to take Roe V wade up again with Scotus before any of the conservative justices retire.

[Grave_n_idle]

Eventually, the abomination that is Roe v. Wade will be overturned, and the issue of destroying the unborn will be turned back to the states, from whom it was illegitimately seized in 1973. Hopefully, this is one more step in that direction.

Thank God for Georgia.

Apparently, overturning Roe v's Wade is going to be circumvented, rather than overturned, as such.

I admire the form if not the intent.


It's interesting that you think it's okay to 'regulate' abortion at the state level, but not at the federal level - but don't think that it should be devolved all the way to the individual.

[Buffett and Colbert]

Meh, I'm not too concerned. The terminology of an embryo doesn't change anything. Let the religious wackos call fetuses human, and leave it in peace. There is no way they could ban abortion because that would attempt to override a Supreme Court ruling and to do that, they would have to go to the Supreme Court.

[Daynor]

Eventually, the abomination that is Roe v. Wade will be overturned, and the issue of destroying the unborn will be turned back to the states, from whom it was illegitimately seized in 1973. Hopefully, this is one more step in that direction.

Thank God for Georgia.

Apparently, overturning Roe v's Wade is going to be circumvented, rather than overturned, as such.

I admire the form if not the intent.


It's interesting that you think it's okay to 'regulate' abortion at the state level, but not at the federal level - but don't think that it should be devolved all the way to the individual.

The 10th amendment would give the power to regulate abortion to the state. Although that amendment is widely ignored...

[Buffett and Colbert]

75% of single-celled 'humans' end up being rinsed from the body during meunstration. They better hire a hell of a lot of rescue workers because every bloody tampon in America will need emergency life-saving care on site just in case.

[Grave_n_idle]

All they are trying to do is find a way to take Roe V wade up again with Scotus before any of the conservative justices retire.

They may have been motivated to rush it, in case of that eventuality... but I don't think they're doing this to prompt reassessment of Roe v's Wade... I think they're doing it to find a legalisitic way to say Roe v's Wade is irrelevant.

[Greed and Death]

Eventually, the abomination that is Roe v. Wade will be overturned, and the issue of destroying the unborn will be turned back to the states, from whom it was illegitimately seized in 1973. Hopefully, this is one more step in that direction.

Thank God for Georgia.

Apparently, overturning Roe v's Wade is going to be circumvented, rather than overturned, as such.

I admire the form if not the intent.


It's interesting that you think it's okay to 'regulate' abortion at the state level, but not at the federal level - but don't think that it should be devolved all the way to the individual.

The 10th amendment would give the power to regulate abortion to the state. Although that amendment is widely ignored...

The 14th has issues with that.

[Greed and Death]

All they are trying to do is find a way to take Roe V wade up again with Scotus before any of the conservative justices retire.

They may have been motivated to rush it, in case of that eventuality... but I don't think they're doing this to prompt reassessment of Roe v's Wade... I think they're doing it to find a legalisitic way to say Roe v's Wade is irrelevant.

The rushing in was South Dakota. so they are going to try a way that words the law differently. Eventually it will get to Scotus.
If McaCain had one they would have let the supreme court get one conservative justice more before doing this.

[Gravlen]

This seems silly...

Estimates are that over 40,000 cryo-preserved human embryos are abiding in concentration cans in our state," says Becker, "this will allow them an opportunity to have a birthday."

That seems especially silly.

[Grave_n_idle]

Meh, I'm not too concerned. The terminology of an embryo doesn't change anything. Let the religious wackos call fetuses human, and leave it in peace. There is no way they could ban abortion because that would attempt to override a Supreme Court ruling and to do that, they would have to go to the Supreme Court.

No, they'd effectively ban abortion, by determining your fitness to make a decision about aborting... based on whether you decide to keep it or abort it.

If you decide to abort, your legal custody rights can be handed to someone 'more appropriate', and you would then be forced to carry THEIR child to term.


Georgia has effectively created a legal loophole which allows slavery.

[Daynor]

Meh, I'm not too concerned. The terminology of an embryo doesn't change anything. Let the religious wackos call fetuses human, and leave it in peace. There is no way they could ban abortion because that would attempt to override a Supreme Court ruling and to do that, they would have to go to the Supreme Court.

If by "religious wackos" you mean most Americans, okay.