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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Fri May 07, 2010 8:25 pm

NX401 wrote:everyone arrives at a self induced truth and henceforth, there should be no argument as everyone of us speaks truth. its just about which truth do you believe in?


If two people speak mutually exclusive claims, they can't both be right. To say that they can is to miss the very definition of what it means for a proposition to be true.
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Postby Intestinal fluids » Fri May 07, 2010 8:51 pm

God doesnt exist. I know so because he appeared before me in a dream and told me he didnt. Are you going to argue with God?

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Fri May 07, 2010 9:01 pm

Intestinal fluids wrote:God doesnt exist. I know so because he appeared before me in a dream and told me he didnt. Are you going to argue with God?


Error, logical paradox.

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Postby Cairde Gaoil » Fri May 07, 2010 9:05 pm

I'm rather agnostic.

It's a little hard to follow a religion knowing how many 'non-christian' things were adopted into its practices. Not that thats bad, of course. Take Easter, for example. Came from Eostre (I think thats spelled right) mentioned by Bede. Goddess of fertility or light or something, I think. Symbols may've been egg's and bunnies. Sound kind of familiar? I'm sure you know plenty of examples yourself. I enjoy the cultural relevance, but I can't take what people say too seriously after that. I love religion though. It gives people hope, a sense of community, and a shared belief system. Don't care too much that I don't agree with any of them. Why should I? :hug: Lets all be friends. You can tell me I'm going to hell all you like. I'ma make a cup of cocoa.

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Postby Bavungria » Sun May 09, 2010 6:04 am

one thing about religion is there is bound to be discrepancies because people are not perfect and sometimes do the wrong thing. but if you attempt to follow Gods main rules and teachings you should get to heaven :)
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun May 09, 2010 6:07 am

Bavungria wrote:one thing about religion is there is bound to be discrepancies because people are not perfect and sometimes do the wrong thing. but if you attempt to follow Gods main rules and teachings you should get to heaven :)


But I prefer Valhalla :(
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Postby 1337tonia » Sun May 09, 2010 6:28 am

Bavungria wrote:This is a good point but but you must remember science is ever changing. By ever changing i mean some facts know might be proven long later.


True, some people set to correct scientific points and views, but that only proves that science is the serach for undeniable truth. Religion is basically telling people "This is what happened. No, we don't have proof. Just roll with it.", and everyone else is gullible enough to beleive them.

If it has no undenaible proof of its existance, it does, therefor, not exist. The bible and other religious texts can all be ancient works of fiction for all you know; nothing tangible exists today to show taht any of it happened. However, we have found tons and tons of rocks with dead stuff in it: fossils. These fossils indicate that, over earth's history, the flora and fauna adapted and evolved to better suit new and altered environments.
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Postby 1337tonia » Sun May 09, 2010 6:29 am

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Intestinal fluids wrote:God doesnt exist. I know so because he appeared before me in a dream and told me he didnt. Are you going to argue with God?


Error, logical paradox.

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Postby The Extreme New Order » Sun May 09, 2010 6:42 am

Balantania wrote:
Happy Pandas wrote:I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.


Im not a muslim for one reaosn they belive in a Allah who rewards them for killing which is completely wrong because what god would creat someone and then reward someone else for killing the other person he made? No i believe in the christian god infact religon itself is man made thought up by humans. God didnt make religon, like i said you dont have to be apart of all of those different christians because they were just made up from someone who didnt agree with somthing and decided to make thier own religon with its own beliefs. All you have to do is belive jesus died on the cross for your sins and that God is your heavenly father and you belive in the virgin marry.


Ok, I'll just start the sarcasm now:

Because the catholics have never used religion as an excuse to be rewarded for murder! They didn't start the crusades, murder gays, and turn a blind eye to the Nazis. They've never harassed "sinners" who aren't harming anyone else. The Westboro baptist church is just a charity orginization doing the work of god. HEIL JESUS!

Ok I think that will suffice.

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Postby Bavungria » Sun May 09, 2010 6:53 am

The Extreme New Order wrote:
Balantania wrote:
Happy Pandas wrote:I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.


Im not a muslim for one reaosn they belive in a Allah who rewards them for killing which is completely wrong because what god would creat someone and then reward someone else for killing the other person he made? No i believe in the christian god infact religon itself is man made thought up by humans. God didnt make religon, like i said you dont have to be apart of all of those different christians because they were just made up from someone who didnt agree with somthing and decided to make thier own religon with its own beliefs. All you have to do is belive jesus died on the cross for your sins and that God is your heavenly father and you belive in the virgin marry.


Ok, I'll just start the sarcasm now:

Because the catholics have never used religion as an excuse to be rewarded for murder! They didn't start the crusades, murder gays, and turn a blind eye to the Nazis. They've never harassed "sinners" who aren't harming anyone else. The Westboro baptist church is just a charity orginization doing the work of god. HEIL JESUS!

Ok I think that will suffice.

btw the not all Muslim are like that and Allah is agaisnt killing other people. Before you post about a topic please educate yourself about it.
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Postby 1337tonia » Sun May 09, 2010 6:58 am

Has anyone else ever noticed that the one who started this thread, and those who side with him, use terrible grammar? Have I been arguing with children? If I have been, I might feel kind of bad, for they don't know that there are other beleifs beyond what their parents force-feed them yet... :(
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Postby Bavungria » Sun May 09, 2010 7:02 am

1337tonia wrote:Has anyone else ever noticed that the one who started this thread, and those who side with him, use terrible grammar? Have I been arguing with children? If I have been, I might feel kind of bad, for they don't know that there are other beleifs beyond what their parents force-feed them yet... :(


does your statement include me as one of the debaters using horrible grammar ? btw you did not spell beliefs correctly :P:P
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Postby Treznor » Sun May 09, 2010 9:31 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Bavungria wrote:one thing about religion is there is bound to be discrepancies because people are not perfect and sometimes do the wrong thing. but if you attempt to follow Gods main rules and teachings you should get to heaven :)


But I prefer Valhalla :(

If I were inclined to believe in any religion, I think Nirvana would be the best choice.

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Postby Georgism » Sun May 09, 2010 9:38 am

Treznor wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Bavungria wrote:one thing about religion is there is bound to be discrepancies because people are not perfect and sometimes do the wrong thing. but if you attempt to follow Gods main rules and teachings you should get to heaven :)


But I prefer Valhalla :(

If I were inclined to believe in any religion, I think Nirvana would be the best choice.

When I die I hope to go to Australia myself :)
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Postby Treznor » Sun May 09, 2010 9:44 am

Georgism wrote:
Treznor wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Bavungria wrote:one thing about religion is there is bound to be discrepancies because people are not perfect and sometimes do the wrong thing. but if you attempt to follow Gods main rules and teachings you should get to heaven :)


But I prefer Valhalla :(

If I were inclined to believe in any religion, I think Nirvana would be the best choice.

When I die I hope to go to Australia myself :)

I was in Australia for a while. I'd rather live there.

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Postby Bavungria » Sun May 09, 2010 9:48 am

Treznor wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Bavungria wrote:one thing about religion is there is bound to be discrepancies because people are not perfect and sometimes do the wrong thing. but if you attempt to follow Gods main rules and teachings you should get to heaven :)


But I prefer Valhalla :(

If I were inclined to believe in any religion, I think Nirvana would be the best choice.


you mean Buddhism but ya it is not to bad of a religion. its core values are helpful and moralistic.
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Postby Treznor » Sun May 09, 2010 9:50 am

Bavungria wrote:
Treznor wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Bavungria wrote:one thing about religion is there is bound to be discrepancies because people are not perfect and sometimes do the wrong thing. but if you attempt to follow Gods main rules and teachings you should get to heaven :)


But I prefer Valhalla :(

If I were inclined to believe in any religion, I think Nirvana would be the best choice.


you mean Buddhism but ya it is not to bad of a religion. its core values are helpful and moralistic.

I'm on record as stating that I have the most respect for Buddhism of any religion. But they're still a religion, and the mysticism inherent in their beliefs is a deal-breaker for me. I'm just saying that if we have the choice for which heavenly afterlife we go to, Nirvana strikes me as far superior to all others.

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Postby Vesser » Sun May 09, 2010 9:56 am

I don't like god.

He told me to kill all the blondes in the world once, because he said they were all laughing at me behind my back.

I'm not crazy, I swear!

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Postby Allbeama » Sun May 09, 2010 10:01 am

This is a profoundly stupid question.The absurdity of the entire OP would be laughable if it were not so sadly ignorant. That said I suspect trolling is afoot here.
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Postby Bavungria » Sun May 09, 2010 10:01 am

Vesser wrote:I don't like god.

He told me to kill all the blondes in the world once, because he said they were all laughing at me behind my back.

I'm not crazy, I swear!


thanks for adding some valuable argument to this respectable debate.
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Postby Vesser » Sun May 09, 2010 10:06 am

Bavungria wrote:
Vesser wrote:I don't like god.

He told me to kill all the blondes in the world once, because he said they were all laughing at me behind my back.

I'm not crazy, I swear!


thanks for adding some valuable argument to this respectable debate.


Oh, we're adding argument? I thought this was just a free for all thread.

Alright, how can I not be Christian? I choose not to. I have seen no evidence for or against God, other then scriptures that had been passed down through word of mouth for some 1,000-or-so-years before being written down. Until God descends from the Heavens and goes, "Hey everyone, I'm God, I'm here to punish the sinners and lead the rest of you into salvation," I'll keep myself skeptical.

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun May 09, 2010 10:07 am

Bavungria wrote:
Vesser wrote:I don't like god.

He told me to kill all the blondes in the world once, because he said they were all laughing at me behind my back.

I'm not crazy, I swear!


thanks for adding some valuable argument to this respectable debate.


Respectable? :eyebrow:

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Postby Straughn » Sun May 09, 2010 12:02 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Intestinal fluids wrote:God doesnt exist. I know so because he appeared before me in a dream and told me he didnt. Are you going to argue with God?


Error, logical paradox.

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How can you not be christian? REALY? WoW.

Postby Caotic chaos » Sun May 09, 2010 12:10 pm

Balantania wrote:My question is how can you not be christian. People who are athiest, I believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin. Also people say why doesnt god just show himself and my answer to that is Faith. What use what it be if god just showed himself to everyone and then everyone just switched to christian, God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe. Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then? Dont say thier not real either because my dad and stepmother have both seen demons, and if you want to know about it i would be more than happy to explain.

Also people who belive Obama is the Anti-Christ, I can see this to some point because in the bible it says that the Anti-Christ will try to make peace wiht everyone and be a nice handsome smooth talker whihc obama is so yes i can see obama being the anti-christ. But i wouldnt freak out about it because if your saved then you will go to heaven. just like 2012 why freak out when you will be going to a better place thats why i think the people who freak out about it are the ones who are worried because they no about the sins they have committed.


Also all of these different religons like catholics, prodestants and judism and all the others i think are in my opinion are not needed because all you have to do is belive in god and the virgin marry and that jesus gave his sins for us, also god didnt make religon, humans made religon in thier own way that they seen fit. For example reilgon is formed like a club and then one day a member form that club doesnt like the ideas of it so then they go and make thier own club meaning religon. But really all you have to do is belive in virgin marry, jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will go to heaven.

Im not a perfect christian, no one is infact ive had my doubts but after talking wiht my Step Mom and my Dad and thinking about the miracles that have happened to me i do belive there is a god and thats called faith. So please anyone is welcome to comment but do not argue or make stupid comments or make fun of anyones religon. This is meant to be a discussion not a argument about which religon is better or calling someone stupid because of thier beliefs.




:palm: ya know just because cchristianity is the largest religion in the world dosent mean there arent any other religions. It also doesnt mean christianity is true or "right" What if Jesus was actualy visited by ufos? or what if he WAS an alien? and for that matter, who says ANY religion i true? Im not saying im an atheist but seriously! Have there been any prophets or visits by god or any other gods? :roll: And just because you might be chritian, dont think that everyone you meet will just roll over and convert. :bow: :p

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