How can you not be christian?

[Treznor]

This forum is a fail...

Well, this thread is anyway. Doomed from the start, I dare say.

This website is a fail... at this point.

Nobody is forcing you to stick around.

[South Norwega]

I do think that Atheists can get a little annoying sometimes but they have chose that path for them because it is easier for them

Fail

The whole post was made of fail. "King Author"?

Clearly referring to Stephen King, Author.

[The Circassian Nation]

The Internet is a fail.

[Trollgaard]

I am not a Christian because it seems so wrong to me. It also seems to be a religion that wants people to be meek little lambs. And I don't think people should be meek.

[Karsol]

I am not a Christian because it seems so wrong to me. It also seems to be a religion that wants people to be meek little lambs. And I don't think people should be meek.

I can see some of the merits of the religion, but the people who join it generally anger me.

[Tretea]

It's easy,you sleep in on Sunday's and get to do plenty of sinning!

[Caninope]

The Internet is a fail.

Just like your mom?

Sorry, just had to.

[Treznor]

What if science worked like religion?

Not surprisingly, the fatwa at the end gets the biggest laugh.

[Strathy]

This is rediculous, another religious loony telling us all to praise jebus and such. Frankly I am athiest, this is not so I can get away with sins, this is merely because I believe that there is a more logical explanation to life, the universe and everything than, "God did it". But I don't force this on others, because, as a communist, I believe that it is everyones right to believe what they wish, without being pressuered into differing beliefs by others. On your grouns I could then say: " You are only christian because, you can't comprehend the complexity of life, the universe and everything, that you need to explain it through supernatural beings. But I do not, as I respect your right to follow your religion, and not let anyone change your views. I suggest you respect other people's views too, rather than force yours upon them.

[Glorious Homeland]

I am an atheist. Why? Early in life I became sceptical, reasons were given for there being a God and the way life was that left me wondering how that could be. I was not content with the reasons I was given for they did not make sense. Years later, after looking into religious across the world, history and politics and science... I have become even more sceptical; and see little to nothing of the definition of the word "Divine" in religions, like Christianity, that claim they are so. I respect religious individuals, so long as they follow the humane and loving true message of their religon, and don't hurt or upset anyone in doing so... but as I say, my doubts grow by the day. The more I know, the more I distrust.

Denying the absolute nature of death, and thinking an all-powerful being has purposefully made the good things in your life so are comforting ideas; not accurate. This is the great draw of religious ideas. Too many logic errors.

I know of my own sins, and I will pay for them if I am called to do so. But if God exists, they know what they have created and love and forgive all of their creation for what they have done and are. Why would I need to conform to one mortal concept like a religion to become closer to God, if they did exist? No reasonable answer for that, nor to support that one must join sed religion or be damned. Damning their creation would not be something a real God could do; otherwise they would not be divine, they would have mortal flaws.

[Straughn]

My question is how can you not be christian.

Why am i not a furry purple koala who dines on ginger roots and watches Beverly Hills 90210? Pretty similar line of thinking.

People who are athiest, I believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin.

How do i prove what is a sin? What was added to christian concepts or what actually occurs in the bible?

Also people say why doesnt god just show himself and my answer to that is Faith.

Spelled two ways ... c-o-w-a-r-d-i-c-e or f-a-n-t-a-s-y.

What use what it be if god just showed himself to everyone and then everyone just switched to christian,

Well, it's the same god for the muslims too, so you're not really on key there. Imagine what that would be like, indeed!

God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe.

Huh, god wants suckers. Demonstrated by that whole bullshit about the cross, and "dying", though not really.

Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then?

Can't see much how they're related except in the whole "The Force" way, but i doubt you have the time to listen to a cogent explanation on my part.

Dont say thier not real either because my dad and stepmother have both seen demons

How do they know? God likes people to believe, remember? If you believe they're demons, and they're really just purple furred koalas watching Beverly Hills 90210 (or at least trying to during constant interruption), you're doing god a service and yourself a disservice.

and if you want to know about it i would be more than happy to explain.

I'm really, really, really late on this thread, and i suspect that's come up.

Also people who belive Obama is the Anti-Christ, I can see this to some point because in the bible it says that the Anti-Christ will try to make peace wiht everyone and be a nice handsome smooth talker whihc obama is so yes i can see obama being the anti-christ.

Just like Bush was and like Reagan was and by some stretch Clinton was. Gotta run your numbers there, eh?
Well, that's why people misunderestimated Bush, was so you wouldn't immediately know he was anti-christ.

But i wouldnt freak out about it because if your saved then you will go to heaven. just like 2012 why freak out when you will be going to a better place thats why i think the people who freak out about it are the ones who are worried because they no about the sins they have committed.

Again, prove it.

Also all of these different religons like catholics, prodestants and judism and all the others i think are in my opinion are not needed because all you have to do is belive in god and the virgin marry and that jesus gave his sins for us, also god didnt make religon, humans made religon in thier own way that they seen fit. For example reilgon is formed like a club and then one day a member form that club doesnt like the ideas of it so then they go and make thier own club meaning religon. But really all you have to do is belive in virgin marry, jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will go to heaven.

Forgive me that this may sound blunt, but you're gonna have to actually prove that, not being god and all. Brace yourself for a pattern in that regard.

Im not a perfect christian, no one is infact ive had my doubts but after talking wiht my Step Mom and my Dad and thinking about the miracles that have happened to me

Miracles? Like what? The Fleetwood Mac song? Do you some kind of illustration as the difference between a "miracle" and "misinterpreted uncommon but not improbable occurrence"?

i do belive there is a god and thats called faith.

Your choice to believe, as alluded to earlier?

So please anyone is welcome to comment but do not argue or make stupid comments

Based on what criterion are you going to determine a comment "stupid"?

or make fun of anyones religon. This is meant to be a discussion not a argument about which religon is better or calling someone stupid because of thier beliefs.

Would you consider someone being factually inaccurate "stupid", or deceived? This is liable to come up.

[Straughn]

The Internet is a fail.

Just like your mom?

Sorry, just had to.

You rather she was a success (at whatever ....)?

[Self--Esteem]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Since I do believe in copyrights and intellectual property rights, I cannot believe in the Bible.

[Zeppy]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Poetic Edda or Prose Edda?

[Self--Esteem]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Poetic Edda or Prose Edda?

I read both.

Do not ask me which one had the whole story about the Fenris Wolf. I think it was the Prose, though.

[Mediterreania]

My question is how can you not be christian. People who are athiest, I believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin.

So if there was no God, it would be okay to kill people? You can have morals without faith.

Also people say why doesnt god just show himself and my answer to that is Faith. What use what it be if god just showed himself to everyone and then everyone just switched to christian, God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe.

You have a valid point there, but I think that God sends each of us signs in our own personal ways.

Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then? Dont say thier not real either because my dad and stepmother have both seen demons, and if you want to know about it i would be more than happy to explain.

Are you sure that it was a demon you saw?

Also people who belive Obama is the Anti-Christ, I can see this to some point because in the bible it says that the Anti-Christ will try to make peace wiht everyone and be a nice handsome smooth talker whihc obama is so yes i can see obama being the anti-christ. But i wouldnt freak out about it because if your saved then you will go to heaven. just like 2012 why freak out when you will be going to a better place thats why i think the people who freak out about it are the ones who are worried because they no about the sins they have committed.

Obama is not the Anti-Christ. I've heard people call him a fascist, a communist, but the Anti-Christ? Seriously? Many people say "so-and-so is the devil," but they usually end up wrong and cause trouble along the way.

Also all of these different religons like catholics, prodestants and judism and all the others i think are in my opinion are not needed because all you have to do is belive in god and the virgin marry and that jesus gave his sins for us, also god didnt make religon, humans made religon in thier own way that they seen fit. For example reilgon is formed like a club and then one day a member form that club doesnt like the ideas of it so then they go and make thier own club meaning religon. But really all you have to do is belive in virgin marry, jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will go to heaven.

No, you have to be a good person to go to heaven. Different religions were created for different cultures.

Im not a perfect christian, no one is infact ive had my doubts but after talking wiht my Step Mom and my Dad and thinking about the miracles that have happened to me i do belive there is a god and thats called faith. So please anyone is welcome to comment but do not argue or make stupid comments or make fun of anyones religon. This is meant to be a discussion not a argument about which religon is better or calling someone stupid because of thier beliefs.

At least you formed your faith of your own will.

[Geniasis]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Poetic Edda or Prose Edda?

It probably helps that the Rapture isn't even in the Bible, and that it--along with the rest of the half-baked theology of premillenial dispensationalism--were cooked up by some guy in the 1800s.

[Self--Esteem]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Poetic Edda or Prose Edda?

It probably helps that the Rapture isn't even in the Bible, and that it--along with the rest of the half-baked theology of premillenial dispensationalism--were cooked up by some guy in the 1800s.

It is part of the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; Revelation 1:7 ; Matthew 24:29-31 and some others.

The first to call it rapture was a Puritan priest in 1738, although Romans and other civilizations believed into it from 200AD onwards.

[Karsol]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Poetic Edda or Prose Edda?

It probably helps that the Rapture isn't even in the Bible, and that it--along with the rest of the half-baked theology of premillenial dispensationalism--were cooked up by some guy in the 1800s.

It is part of the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; Revelation 1:7 ; Matthew 24:29-31 and some others.

The first to call it rapture was a Puritan priest in 1738, although Romans and other civilizations believed into it from 200AD onwards.

The Edda isn't pagan, it is Heathen. There is a bloody difference.

Heathen doesn't mean 'unbeliever' or 'heretic', it's a culture that lives on heath land.

Ignorant people!!!! DX

[Lithatrius]

Why don't I believe? Because I believe in a quantum universe. If everything that makes up the universe follows quantum mechanics, as opposed to macrophysics (like us), who's to say that the Universe itself follows it? I think that there is no beginning and end of the time, just the universe in cycles (contracting, expanding, contracting, etc. - blueshift, redshift, blueshift, etc.)

[Self--Esteem]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Poetic Edda or Prose Edda?

It probably helps that the Rapture isn't even in the Bible, and that it--along with the rest of the half-baked theology of premillenial dispensationalism--were cooked up by some guy in the 1800s.

It is part of the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; Revelation 1:7 ; Matthew 24:29-31 and some others.

The first to call it rapture was a Puritan priest in 1738, although Romans and other civilizations believed into it from 200AD onwards.

The Edda isn't pagan, it is Heathen. There is a bloody difference.

Heathen doesn't mean 'unbeliever' or 'heretic', it's a culture that lives on heath land.

Ignorant people!!!! DX

I did not even know that term (heathen). I always called myself Pagan, since I thought this was somehow appropriate.

[Ithaaca]

How can I not?

I'm not inclined to believe that something beyond my comprehension has a consciousness and supposedly orchestrates the events around the world with a benevolent hand.

Life works well enough without deities, miracles, souls and saviours. Too many arguments rise up that are, in the end, the faithful banging on their dogma.

[Mirkana]

I was raised Jewish. I have read the New Testament, and I find I much prefer Judaism and the OT.

[Geniasis]

I read the Edda, a "Pagan" book. That's how I found out that the Bible is a copycat work. Their whole idea of the Rapture aftermath is a 1:1 copy of the fight between Thor and the Fenris Wolf, just with Jesus and the Anti-Christ in their stead.

Poetic Edda or Prose Edda?

It probably helps that the Rapture isn't even in the Bible, and that it--along with the rest of the half-baked theology of premillenial dispensationalism--were cooked up by some guy in the 1800s.

It is part of the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; Revelation 1:7 ; Matthew 24:29-31 and some others.

By some interpretations, mostly within the Evangelical tradition. I do not share that view.

Millenial Dispensationalism is ridiculous. It's a "supposed" literal interpretation that is achieved by cherry-picking verses from three books, two of which are in the Old Testament, and 'literally' interpreting a ten-headed beast as a charming Italian man who wants world peace.

It's academically, morally, and theologically lazy.

[Kitten Slave]

Its quite easy.
This morning I woke up, looked out the window, a bird flew by, I watched the clouds high in the sky drifting lazily by, no god, no Jesus, no heavenly sign and I went: "Oh well, guess Im not christian today"...

On the other hand, how CAN you be christian? You woke up one morning and god was staring you in the face, you fell out of bed and went holy Shi...!! Hot diggidy, guess Im christian now!
Or is it one of those things like "mmm, I feel like a bacon sandwich today for lunch" but instead its "mmm, I guess Im going to be christian now for no apparent reason"?