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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:13 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Remember what bullshit they used to justify british rule


Every single British person, ever?

no but remember what bullshit did the british write to justify british rule in india

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Postby Flameswroth » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:13 am

Hmmm, interesting.

So let's say I'm a citizen living in Fuktupistan. One hundred years ago, a country called Shittinonia comes along and invades. Seeing the effects this invasion has had on my country's advancement (or lack thereof) over the following century, my rabid patriotism as a Fuktupman compels me to hate Shittlings for being Shittlings. This hate is blind, such that even Fuktupmen who emigrated to Shittinonia during that time are a target of my disdain.

I'm not sure that counts as racism, myself. Where you live doesn't really determine your race, anymore. Clearly I am prejudiced against a certain group of people, equivalent in extremity to racism, but the actual label just doesn't seem to fit.

Now if my hate were confined solely to those of Shittling descent then I could see it. But hating on the country as a whole, and by extension its people, isn't really the same to me.

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Postby Platonic Thought » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:13 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:But hating a specific group of people, no matter the cause, is still racism.

So yes sir, I am calling you a racist, and I am not wrong.

racism is hating people because of their skin colour .


Wrong.

a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

hating people who deystroyed your country is not racist it maybe nationalistic but not racist too me


No, it's racist. By the very definition you just cited.


hating racists is not racist


You don't hate just racists. You hate all British people. All British people are not racists. You, however, are.


It's not racist to hate a specific group of people. It's racist to hate a specific race of people.

For example, it's not racist to hate gay people, or on the other hand, it's not racist to hate straight people either. It's also not racist to hate Catholics, but it is racist to hate African Americans, Italians, Irish people, Arabs, Persians, Chinese, Japanese, etc.

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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:14 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Remember what bullshit they used to justify british rule


Every single British person, ever?

no but remember what bullshit did the british write to justify british rule in india


Every single British person, ever?
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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:14 am

Flameswroth wrote:Hmmm, interesting.

So let's say I'm a citizen living in Fuktupistan. One hundred years ago, a country called Shittinonia comes along and invades. Seeing the effects this invasion has had on my country's advancement (or lack thereof) over the following century, my rabid patriotism as a Fuktupman compels me to hate Shittlings for being Shittlings. This hate is blind, such that even Fuktupmen who emigrated to Shittinonia during that time are a target of my disdain.

I'm not sure that counts as racism, myself. Where you live doesn't really determine your race, anymore. Clearly I am prejudiced against a certain group of people, equivalent in extremity to racism, but the actual label just doesn't seem to fit.

Now if my hate were confined solely to those of Shittling descent then I could see it. But hating on the country as a whole, and by extension its people, isn't really the same to me.

/shrug


advancement which could have been brought with fuktupistani capital

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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:14 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Remember what bullshit they used to justify british rule


Every single British person, ever?

no but remember what bullshit did the british write to justify british rule in india


Every single British person, ever?

not every single british person

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Postby Angleter » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:15 am

Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:16 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Remember what bullshit they used to justify british rule


Every single British person, ever?

no but remember what bullshit did the british write to justify british rule in india


Every single British person, ever?

not every single british person


Then hating every single British person for the crimes of a select few is what?
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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:17 am

Angleter wrote:
Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.

because an enemy of my enemy is my freind

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Postby Skibereen » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:17 am

Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists . Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist

...Arguing for hate is a position of failure anyway...but I will bite.

Ignoring that Race Theory is in and of itself nonsense...
Holding animosity towards those people who wronged you is certainly understandable, holding animosity towards all carriers of the genetic phenotypes of the people who harmed you is the exact same fucking thing as the people who did you wrong over the genetic phenotypes which are innate to you.

Or

Be specific with your Hate.

The people who hurt Blacks in America may have been white. True.
All White people are responsible for the wrong done to Black people based on "Race". False, and categorically racist.
argumentum ad logicam, seriously think about it.

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Postby JuNii » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:18 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:
JuNii wrote:when was this day? give me the date please.

I do believe he/she is referring to the British colonization of India in the early 1800's, which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It was over two hundred years ago.

about 60 years they left in 1947

wait... they did what 60 years ago?
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:18 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Angleter wrote:
Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.

because an enemy of my enemy is my freind


Lol. The Japanese weren't having pillow fights and tickle wars with the nations they conquered, you know. Maybe you should read some history books.
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Postby Angleter » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:19 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Angleter wrote:
Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.

because an enemy of my enemy is my freind


Not if that enemy's enemy just wants to replace your enemy, except they're worse. That smacks of political fail.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:19 am

JuNii wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:
JuNii wrote:when was this day? give me the date please.

I do believe he/she is referring to the British colonization of India in the early 1800's, which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It was over two hundred years ago.

about 60 years they left in 1947

wait... they did what 60 years ago?

Decided what a horrible idea what they'd done 100 years ago was- those assholes.
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Postby Skibereen » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:20 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Angleter wrote:
Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.

because an enemy of my enemy is my freind


Lol. The Japanese weren't having pillow fights and tickle wars with the nations they conquered, you know. Maybe you should read some history books.

No you should the Japanese were great! Just ask the Chinese...
argumentum ad logicam, seriously think about it.

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Postby Tekania » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:23 am

Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists . Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist


Racism is racism... You hating modern-day UK people for what their ancestors did, is just as much racism as what their ancestors did.
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:23 am

Skibereen wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Angleter wrote:
Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.

because an enemy of my enemy is my freind


Lol. The Japanese weren't having pillow fights and tickle wars with the nations they conquered, you know. Maybe you should read some history books.

No you should the Japanese were great! Just ask the Chinese...

well i support bose because of the r.i.n mutiny not because of he supported the japs but he had no other choice

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Postby Collective Systems » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:24 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:Decided what a horrible idea what they'd done 100 years ago was- those assholes.

Yeah, and those bastards apologized too.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:25 am

What is racism?

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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:27 am

Dimoniquid wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

Awww, you're so sweet, you yank. You are a yank, right?


Yes, I'm a yank, from a part of the country where I get a holiday in 3 weeks to celebrate throwing off our British colonial yoke of oppression. :)
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Postby Skibereen » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:29 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Skibereen wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Angleter wrote:
Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.

because an enemy of my enemy is my freind


Lol. The Japanese weren't having pillow fights and tickle wars with the nations they conquered, you know. Maybe you should read some history books.

No you should the Japanese were great! Just ask the Chinese...

well i support bose because of the r.i.n mutiny not because of he supported the japs but he had no other choice

That's always the excuse that justifies backing a Genocidal regime bent on the extermination of just about every other ethnicity, who directly declare their enemies to be subhuman and treat not only soldiers but all civilians as such. Or perhaps it just sounded good to him.
argumentum ad logicam, seriously think about it.

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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:32 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Skibereen wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Angleter wrote:
Boico wrote:OK, you're an anglophobe. Also, just because I'm curious, how can you justify your hatred of British people? Gandhi (the man you said was an inspiration to you) said "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" so even he didn't support your hatred. Communism (which from other posts it seems you agree with) states that all people should be equal, yet you've made it quite clear you are not willing to see British people as human beings.

So tell me, how can you continue to say such ignorant things when you claim Gandhi as an inspiration? I'm pretty certain you and he would not have gotten along...


He prefers Subhash Chandra Bose, who allied with the Japanese in WW2.

And racism is irrational hatred of a nationality, ethnicity or culture.

because an enemy of my enemy is my freind


Lol. The Japanese weren't having pillow fights and tickle wars with the nations they conquered, you know. Maybe you should read some history books.

No you should the Japanese were great! Just ask the Chinese...

well i support bose because of the r.i.n mutiny not because of he supported the japs but he had no other choice


So people who support Hitler because of his economic recovery policies and not his kill-all-Jews policies: a-okay?
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Postby Ravea » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:44 am

Jedi 999 wrote:I am not racist , I just hate the fact that one fine day someone decided to enslave my country and i cant love them for that


The people who live in Britain didn't enslave India.

People who were British enslaved India several hundred years ago. Get over it. India is a free country now.
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Postby Ermarian » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:49 am

Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists . Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist


Nope. Hate is hate. Love is love. Nothing more, nothing less. Do not believe the Ministry of Truth. :P
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