Because the Klan is currently in decline and hasn't intimidated their opposition through violence like ANTIFA has.
I'm unsure as to whether New Jersey's decision is accurate, but ANTIFA is far more the terrorist organisation than the Ku Klux Klan.
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by Minzerland II » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:50 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Salus Maior » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:51 pm
by Lorkhan » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:52 pm
Mongeley wrote:Anti-fascism is considered terrorism in the United States?
by Sleet Clans » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:52 pm
by Salus Maior » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:52 pm
Mongeley wrote:Anti-fascism is considered terrorism in the United States?
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:53 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Get back to me when Antifa seizes federal property.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:53 pm
Blasted Craigs wrote:The Widening Gyre wrote:Firstly, calling Antifa 'domestic terrorists' is a wee bit of a stretch, seeing as the worst thing they can apparently dredge up is fighting at protests.
Secondly, why does New Jersey need its own Department of Homeland Security?
Well, when you have a members attacking people with things like bike locks, fireworks in bottles so they shatter and act as glass shrapnel, and other improvised, potentially lethal weapons, in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with, you know, trying to use terror to get the public to not argue and accept your platform....
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:53 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Blasted Craigs wrote:Well, when you have a members attacking people with things like bike locks, fireworks in bottles so they shatter and act as glass shrapnel, and other improvised, potentially lethal weapons, in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with, you know, trying to use terror to get the public to not argue and accept your platform....
...
totally unlike pro-Trump supporters who also turn up to fight and the pro-Trump militias which in some states actively provide armed security to pro-Trump rallies?
Potentially lethal weapons in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with...
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:54 pm
Vassenor wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge
Not really.
by Salus Maior » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:54 pm
Italios wrote:This is pretty dangerous. Antifa isn't well-organised at all, and this basically gives the government the right to name any group affiliated with Antifa or under the label Antifa as a terrorist group, even if it's not engaging in activities that are not terroristic at all.
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:55 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:
I know what you're referencing, but it's completely irrelevant to the conversation.
by Sanctissima » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:55 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Blasted Craigs wrote:Well, when you have a members attacking people with things like bike locks, fireworks in bottles so they shatter and act as glass shrapnel, and other improvised, potentially lethal weapons, in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with, you know, trying to use terror to get the public to not argue and accept your platform....
...
totally unlike pro-Trump supporters who also turn up to fight and the pro-Trump militias which in some states actively provide armed security to pro-Trump rallies?
Potentially lethal weapons in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with...
by Staniel » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:56 pm
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by Italios » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:57 pm
Salus Maior wrote:Italios wrote:This is pretty dangerous. Antifa isn't well-organised at all, and this basically gives the government the right to name any group affiliated with Antifa or under the label Antifa as a terrorist group, even if it's not engaging in activities that are not terroristic at all.
Well, then I guess they can just do the same non-violent, non-terrorist things under a different name.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:57 pm
Minzerland II wrote:Vassenor wrote:
So why isn't the Klan considered a domestic terrorist organisation then? Considering part of their shtick is the intimidation of ethnic minority communities.
Because the Klan is currently in decline and hasn't intimidated their opposition through violence like ANTIFA has.
I'm unsure as to whether New Jersey's decision is accurate, but ANTIFA is far more the terrorist organisation than the Ku Klux Klan.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Sareva » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:57 pm
Vassenor wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge
Not really.
Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."
by United Muscovite Nations » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:57 pm
by Minzerland II » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:57 pm
Imperializt Russia wrote:Blasted Craigs wrote:Well, when you have a members attacking people with things like bike locks, fireworks in bottles so they shatter and act as glass shrapnel, and other improvised, potentially lethal weapons, in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with, you know, trying to use terror to get the public to not argue and accept your platform....
...
totally unlike pro-Trump supporters who also turn up to fight and the pro-Trump militias which in some states actively provide armed security to pro-Trump rallies?
Potentially lethal weapons in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with...
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Salus Maior » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:58 pm
by 36 Camera Perspective » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:58 pm
by Salus Maior » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:59 pm
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:59 pm
Sanctissima wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:...
totally unlike pro-Trump supporters who also turn up to fight and the pro-Trump militias which in some states actively provide armed security to pro-Trump rallies?
Potentially lethal weapons in effect trying to use the threat of violence to stop public discourse one disagrees with...
Y'know, when your argument boils down to "They do it too!", I'm inclined to believe it doesn't really have much of a leg to stand on.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:00 pm
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Athrax » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:00 pm
Chan Island wrote:Vassenor wrote:
So why isn't the Klan considered a domestic terrorist organisation then? Considering part of their shtick is the intimidation of ethnic minority communities.
Wait, the Klan *isn't* a domestic terrorist organization?
I hate swearing online but here's an exception. F*** the Klan. They are domestic terrorists.
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:01 pm
Athrax wrote:Chan Island wrote:
Wait, the Klan *isn't* a domestic terrorist organization?
I hate swearing online but here's an exception. F*** the Klan. They are domestic terrorists.
There isn't a Klan anymore. That was broken to pieces years ago and hasn't reformed. There are several such groups scattered disparately around the country. Most are just bitch and moan clubs, but those that have taken or encouraged action are usually tagged as domestic terrorists pretty quickly
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