Italy Referendum

[Baltenstein]

No it's not. Politicians by the nature of politics tend to get more votes when they look good.

Probably biased, but they're all fugly to me.

There are plenty of handsome politicians. Said mayor of Rome, Virginia Raggi, French education minister Najat Vallaud-Belkahem, French right-wing starlet Marion Marechal Le Pen, Greek parliamentarian Eva Kaili, German politician Marina Weisband, Russian prosecutor general and anime figure Natalia Poklonskaya et etc.

[Thermodolia]

Probably biased, but they're all fugly to me.

There are plenty of handsome politicians. Said mayor of Rome, Virginia Raggi, French education minister Najat Vallaud-Belkahem, French right-wing starlet Marion Marechal Le Pen, Greek parliamentarian Eva Kaili, German politician Marina Weisband, Russian prosecutor general and anime figure Natalia Poklonskaya et etc.

Le Pen is ugly.

[Baltenstein]

There are plenty of handsome politicians. Said mayor of Rome, Virginia Raggi, French education minister Najat Vallaud-Belkahem, French right-wing starlet Marion Marechal Le Pen, Greek parliamentarian Eva Kaili, German politician Marina Weisband, Russian prosecutor general and anime figure Natalia Poklonskaya et etc.

Le Pen is ugly.

How is she ugly?

[The Princes of the Universe]

Le Pen is ugly.

How is she ugly?

A 10 can turn into a -2 merely by talking.

[Greater Slavic Union]

Le Pen is ugly.

How is she ugly?

Wait. They were referring to Marine Le Pen, not her daughter

[The Alexanderians]

How is she ugly?

Wait. They were referring to Marine Le Pen, not her daughter

I was so confused.

[Greater Slavic Union]

Voters elect Parties. Parties choose PMs. Thus the people nominate the PM.

Indirectly, but parties can change their leaders when they want to.

This does not apply to the PM tho...

Isn't Rome's current (smokinlgy hot) mayor also from the 5 Star Movement? How has her government performance been so far?

She is. She has had a lot of troubles during the first months (she couldn't manage to get a, let's say, "Minister of Finances" for Rome... and Rome is HEAVILY in debt...), but now it seems everything calmed down. But we will see. I would not, however, go after her as winning card: I would rather choose Turin's mayor...

[Baltenstein]

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How is she ugly?

Wait. They were referring to Marine Le Pen, not her daughter

Marion Maréchal-Le Pen (the one I mentioned in my list) is Marine Le Pen's niece, not her daughter. And she is also a Front National politician.

[Greater Slavic Union]

Wait. They were referring to Marine Le Pen, not her daughter

Marion Maréchal-Le Pen (the one I mentioned in my list) is Marine Le Pen's niece, not her daughter. And she is also a Front National politician.

I know she's the niece, just wanting to see if you guys from across the Ocean knew it
Anyways, yes, but they were talking about Marine, as far as I know

[Parti Ouvrier]

Back on topic, this LSE blog article by Lorenzo Codogno is interesting - 'Italy’s constitutional referendum: Mapping the possible political scenarios'
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/ ... eferendum/

[Thermodolia]

Le Pen is ugly.

How is she ugly?

Apparently she doesn't have the Le Pen family ugliness

[Geilinor]

Back on topic, this LSE blog article by Lorenzo Codogno is interesting - 'Italy’s constitutional referendum: Mapping the possible political scenarios'
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/ ... eferendum/

It's a good article. Italy's constitution seems to be in need of reform but the consequences of a No vote should not be exaggerated.

[Genivaria]

Hopefully they won't elect a porn star to their senate this time.

What's wrong with that?

[Genivaria]

Le Pen is ugly.

How is she ugly?

....goddamn I'm in love.

[Greater Slavic Union]

Back on topic, this LSE blog article by Lorenzo Codogno is interesting - 'Italy’s constitutional referendum: Mapping the possible political scenarios'
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/ ... eferendum/

It's a good article. Italy's constitution seems to be in need of reform but the consequences of a No vote should not be exaggerated.

Our consitution does not need reforms: we did not have to enter the Euro, and we should not have removed major worker rights. We could still reform it only in a few parts to make it better, but we do not NEED a change

[Agritum]

The voters elect parties, not prime ministers.

Voters elect Parties. Parties choose PMs. Thus the people nominate the PM.

The voters nominate parliament members. This, in 2013, resulted in a PD majority.

The president thus names a PM appointee (from the majority party) and puts him to scrutiny to parliament. This is how every PM has been chosen ever since the Republic became a thing.

I'm Italian too, BTW.

[Agritum]

In further news, President Mattarella has stated he's not making snap elections happen under his watch, due to the shenanigans revolving around our electoral laws.

As Risottia said, we're likely going to see another PD-led government purposely chosen to make reforms on that matter.

[Trotskylvania]

How is she ugly?

....goddamn I'm in love.

Keep it in your pants, comrade.

Making love to the fash is counterrevolutionary.

[Greater Slavic Union]

Voters elect Parties. Parties choose PMs. Thus the people nominate the PM.

The voters nominate parliament members. This, in 2013, resulted in a PD majority.

The president thus names a PM appointee (from the majority party) and puts him to scrutiny to parliament. This is how every PM has been chosen ever since the Republic became a thing.

I'm Italian too, BTW.

Yup, that's how it happens.

And the reason why many are angry with Renzi is that he did not have any kind of legitimation, as he was not even a candidate to become an MP...

[New Chalcedon]

No it's not. Politicians by the nature of politics tend to get more votes when they look good.

Probably biased, but they're all fugly to me.

Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM) disagrees with you:

For that matter, here in Australia, we have rather a few - and at senior levels, too!

Deputy Leader of the Opposition, Tanya Plibersek:

On the other side of the political divide, NSW Premier (To any Americans reading, the position is roughly analogous to Majority Leader for the State legislature, plus most of the power of the Governorship):

Australia's a country of rotten politics, but we do have a lot of good-looking politicians, even if some of them are among the most rotten of all.

[Genivaria]

....goddamn I'm in love.

Keep it in your pants, comrade.

Making love to the fash is counterrevolutionary.

She's only a year older than I, obviously she is the princess who needs rescuing from her evil fascist family.

[Genivaria]

Probably biased, but they're all fugly to me.

Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-NM) disagrees with you:

.....I swear I was straight a minute ago.

[Divitaen]

I'm pretty worried about how this referendum has completely emboldened the Five Star Movement and North League parties, this was 'Brexit' all over again, uninformed voters shooting their own country's financial system and economy in the foot, except the Italian economy is in much worse shape than the British. I just hope Italy doesn't eventually see huge gains for anti-EU political parties in the near future, although that appears inevitable by now.

[New Chalcedon]

.....I swear I was straight a minute ago.

He's been known to have that effect on people XD

[Genivaria]

.....I swear I was straight a minute ago.

He's been known to have that effect on people XD

Fucking French Fascists are Fabulous.