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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:40 am

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I have a very high amount of respect for the asexual, they have reached a level of morality and detachment that most humans will never attain. Without the strains or distractions of 'romance' and sex. They are of a higher order, in my opinion.


Two points:

1) Asexual =/= Aromantic.

2) This is utter and complete bollocks. I'm emotionally attached to any number of people. I just don't have any desire to stick my penis in them.


There's nothing wrong with emotional attachment. or even romance i suppose.

But i still see being asexual as a higher order. something that should be attained and those that are naturally asexual are very lucky, indeed. they have obtained a level of morality, thinking and action that some people go their whole lives without.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:41 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
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Two points:

1) Asexual =/= Aromantic.

2) This is utter and complete bollocks. I'm emotionally attached to any number of people. I just don't have any desire to stick my penis in them.


There's nothing wrong with emotional attachment. or even romance i suppose.

But i still see being asexual as a higher order. something that should be attained and those that are naturally asexual are very lucky, indeed. they have obtained a level of morality, thinking and action that some people go their whole lives without.


No, no I haven't. I just don't want to stick my penis in stuff. On top of that, my attitude towards sex is pretty much identical to that of any eight year old, only somewhat better informed about what it is.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:42 am

Gages Icelandic Army wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:Yes, all people are heterosexual unless they choose to have sex with the opposite sex.

The desire to have sex is brought out by a stimulus. There are men who's body is sexually aroused by other men. This reaction doesn't require conscious thinking or even a quick realization of what is happening. Their body just responds that way. You can't think your way into being sexually interested. You can only expose your mind to think that will stimulate its desire for sex.



This is true as well. Have you ever looked at a girl, and then been "Listen self, it's time to fire up the sex drive, guess nows as good a time as any". No, I don't think you have. You just "felt" attracted.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:43 am

Salandriagado wrote:
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There's nothing wrong with emotional attachment. or even romance i suppose.

But i still see being asexual as a higher order. something that should be attained and those that are naturally asexual are very lucky, indeed. they have obtained a level of morality, thinking and action that some people go their whole lives without.


No, no I haven't. I just don't want to stick my penis in stuff. On top of that, my attitude towards sex is pretty much identical to that of any eight year old, only somewhat better informed about what it is.


That's wonderful, i think you're very lucky indeed. Trust me, you're not missing out on anything and you're probably live much better, morally speaking.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:44 am

Killdash wrote:
Gages Icelandic Army wrote:The desire to have sex is brought out by a stimulus. There are men who's body is sexually aroused by other men. This reaction doesn't require conscious thinking or even a quick realization of what is happening. Their body just responds that way. You can't think your way into being sexually interested. You can only expose your mind to think that will stimulate its desire for sex.



This is true as well. Have you ever looked at a girl, and then been "Listen self, it's time to fire up the sex drive, guess nows as good a time as any". No, I don't think you have. You just "felt" attracted.

I don't see how there's a distinction.

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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:44 am

Great Kauthar wrote:
Killdash wrote:the op

You don't develop sexual hormones until you hit puberty and as much as I like the idea of a heterogenous society, no, this isn't possible.


Ah, yes, back to topic.

Well, it's pretty widely thought that there is a genetic basis for homosexuality. Even adding on such things such as brain states in pregnancy, and environmental cues during pregnancy, I think you come out of that womb with your sexuality pretty much decided.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:45 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
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No, no I haven't. I just don't want to stick my penis in stuff. On top of that, my attitude towards sex is pretty much identical to that of any eight year old, only somewhat better informed about what it is.


That's wonderful, i think you're very lucky indeed. Trust me, you're not missing out on anything and you're probably live much better, morally speaking.

You're missing out on alot actually, and morality has nothing to do with it.

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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:45 am

Genivaria wrote:
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This is true as well. Have you ever looked at a girl, and then been "Listen self, it's time to fire up the sex drive, guess nows as good a time as any". No, I don't think you have. You just "felt" attracted.

I don't see how there's a distinction.


Between what?
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:47 am

Genivaria wrote:
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That's wonderful, i think you're very lucky indeed. Trust me, you're not missing out on anything and you're probably live much better, morally speaking.

You're missing out on alot actually, and morality has nothing to do with it.


Not really, like what? if you're not interested or don't enjoy sex, you're not missing out on a lot. From my point of view, sex has been more trouble than it's worth. It's distracting, for one. secondly, it has a mind of it's own sometimes. Three, women are annoying as fuck and i don't want anything to do with(80%) of them.

A sex drive is a curse.
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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:48 am

Also, (I'm guilty here as well) I think we're straying slightly off topic...
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:48 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You're missing out on alot actually, and morality has nothing to do with it.


Not really, like what? if you're not interested or don't enjoy sex, you're not missing out on a lot. From my point of view, sex has been more trouble than it's worth. It's distracting, for one. secondly, it has a mind of it's own sometimes. Three, women are annoying as fuck and i don't want anything to do with(80%) of them.

A sex drive is a curse.


That sounds remarkably like and admission that your sexuality is not a choice.
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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:53 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Genivaria wrote:You're missing out on alot actually, and morality has nothing to do with it.


Not really, like what? if you're not interested or don't enjoy sex, you're not missing out on a lot. From my point of view, sex has been more trouble than it's worth. It's distracting, for one. secondly, it has a mind of it's own sometimes. Three, women are annoying as fuck and i don't want anything to do with(80%) of them.

A sex drive is a curse.

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Postby Evacillian » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:10 am

Killdash wrote:Also, (I'm guilty here as well) I think we're straying slightly off topic...


I don't think anybody cares...no offense. But in response- I think it would be morally unethical to change what your child may be, think, or look like unless it is a detrimental health issue
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Postby Gages Icelandic Army » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:18 am

Evacillian wrote:
Killdash wrote:Also, (I'm guilty here as well) I think we're straying slightly off topic...


I don't think anybody cares...no offense. But in response- I think it would be morally unethical to change what your child may be, think, or look like unless it is a detrimental health issue

I would go as far as to say minor health issues as well.

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Postby Evacillian » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:33 am

Thermodolia wrote:That's your opinion. I for one love it! #slutpride


Lol same
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Postby Gages Icelandic Army » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:13 pm

Somebody say something controversial. :?:

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:04 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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Not really, like what? if you're not interested or don't enjoy sex, you're not missing out on a lot. From my point of view, sex has been more trouble than it's worth. It's distracting, for one. secondly, it has a mind of it's own sometimes. Three, women are annoying as fuck and i don't want anything to do with(80%) of them.

A sex drive is a curse.

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Epidemic X wrote:jk i just think its a little odd right.or u cant get a gf is probaly why


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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:29 pm

Evacillian wrote:
Killdash wrote:Also, (I'm guilty here as well) I think we're straying slightly off topic...


I don't think anybody cares...no offense. But in response- I think it would be morally unethical to change what your child may be, think, or look like unless it is a detrimental health issue



What's your reasoning?
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:42 pm

Killdash wrote:
Evacillian wrote:
I don't think anybody cares...no offense. But in response- I think it would be morally unethical to change what your child may be, think, or look like unless it is a detrimental health issue



What's your reasoning?

Changing one's sexuality implies that there is something wrong or undesirable with the sexuality being changed. Why fix something that isn't broken?
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:53 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Killdash wrote:

What's your reasoning?

Changing one's sexuality implies that there is something wrong or undesirable with the sexuality being changed. Why fix something that isn't broken?


Does having a sex change imply there is something wrong with your gender?
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:01 pm

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Arcturus Novus wrote:Changing one's sexuality implies that there is something wrong or undesirable with the sexuality being changed. Why fix something that isn't broken?


Does having a sex change imply there is something wrong with your gender?

Involuntary sex changes would certainly be unethical.
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Postby Kinubanza » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:07 pm

The technology should not be banned, but the choice should be the individual's to make, not by the parents before birth.
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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:08 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Killdash wrote:

What's your reasoning?

Changing one's sexuality implies that there is something wrong or undesirable with the sexuality being changed. Why fix something that isn't broken?


Well, if it's indeed a genetic thing, and it can be edited out of the genome, why wouldn't you do it?
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Postby Killdash » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:11 pm

Kinubanza wrote:The technology should not be banned, but the choice should be the individual's to make, not by the parents before birth.


This seems reasonable, on the surface. But if the parents made the decision, there's never be a conflict. You'd be born that way, and as if such, you'd never "remember" anything different.

It's a little bit like withholding an Aspergers gene replacement til adulthood just to see whether the child will make that decision, even though the parents could have spared the whole shebang and that person will never have to make that choice, and won't even regret it.
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