National Socialism

[The National Socialist Deutsche Republic]

Ok then.
OOC: Check my factbooks then to figure it out: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... l=factbook
Your confusion if caused by my country's history/imfomation.

Nobody cares about your nation in General.

The National Socialist Party was created on the day the Republic was formed, December 20, 1918. And in 1933, the Nazi came to power and ruined Germany's Glory in World War II (1939-1943). Hail to Socialism! Boo to Fascism! And why was Nazi Germany Fascist?

[Communist Ylisse]

The New Sea Territory got this one right. Only way to deal with fascists is bullets.

[The National Socialist Deutsche Republic]

Ok then.
OOC: Check my factbooks then to figure it out: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=the ... l=factbook
Your confusion if caused by my country's history/imfomation.

I don't mean to be rude, but I think my confusion is caused by your inability to express yourself clearly and/or the general weirdness of your statements.

I don't know what your trying to say.

[Major-Tom]

Yo fuck nazism.

[Montchevre]

Oh, but just in general, please spare me the ridiculous, militant, hateful ideology that fascism is. Grow up and get a girlfriend or something.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Nobody cares about your nation in General.

The National Socialist Party was created on the day the Republic was formed, December 20, 1918. And in 1933, the Nazi came to power and ruined Germany's Glory in World War II (1939-1943). Hail to Socialism! Boo to Fascism! And why was Nazi Germany Fascist?

Let me repeat myself, nobody cares about your nation in General. This is an OOC forum, with OOC talk about things unrelated to the game.

[Trotza]

Well then, I suppose this article by the American Psychological association which was conducted by noted college academics about the correlation between race and intelligence got the date wrong when it said 2005 instead of 1860.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/ ... 0years.pdf

Edit: As I doubt you will take the time out read it all, http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/0 ... netic.aspx

2nd Edit: How's that modern science working out for ya

When the neo-fascist runs around flaunting the faked article that he thinks is real . Please just go shave your head and move to Poland.

Disregard my previous statement, I think I understand your obnoxious and hollow methods for what you think is a proper response now.

[Montchevre]

Oh, but just in general, please spare me the ridiculous, militant, hateful ideology that fascism is. Grow up and get a girlfriend or something.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Well then, I suppose this article by the American Psychological association which was conducted by noted college academics about the correlation between race and intelligence got the date wrong when it said 2005 instead of 1860.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/ ... 0years.pdf

Edit: As I doubt you will take the time out read it all, http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/0 ... netic.aspx

2nd Edit: How's that modern science working out for ya

When the neo-fascist runs around flaunting the faked article that he thinks is real . Please just go shave your head and move to Poland.

... ... Evidence for this claim of falsehood? So far, you have provided no evidence to counter act the points I have made, and instead have resorted to unfounded buzzwords such as: Imperialist, and Neo-fascist.

I have brought forth an actual research paper, conducted by two college professors, and verified enough to be featured in a respectable magazine such as American Psychological association. I have given the proof of burden... where is your rebuttal, if you have one at all? At this point, it would be courteous to admit wrongness.

And secondly, do not confuse the acknowledgement of race as a superiority complex.

[Revanchism]

-snip-

Please leave the US, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
EDIT: I don't even like Trump, but I'm pretty sure he pretty vehemently disagrees with everything you stand for.

[Montchevre]

When the neo-fascist runs around flaunting the faked article that he thinks is real .

Disregard my previous statement, I think I understand your obnoxious and hollow methods for what you think is a proper response now.

What? This article is a popular fraud. I didn't realize people liked to sympathize with bloody fascists so much. I hate misinformation, and this is about as bad as it gets. "Obnoxious and hollow?" Like fascism?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Well then, I suppose this article by the American Psychological association which was conducted by noted college academics about the correlation between race and intelligence got the date wrong when it said 2005 instead of 1860.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/ ... 0years.pdf

Edit: As I doubt you will take the time out read it all, http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/0 ... netic.aspx

2nd Edit: How's that modern science working out for ya

When the neo-fascist runs around flaunting the faked article that he thinks is real . Please just go shave your head and move to Poland.

Oh the article is very real, it's just that it has been debunked by most of the psychological community.

[Republic of the Cristo]

When the neo-fascist runs around flaunting the faked article that he thinks is real . Please just go shave your head and move to Poland.

Oh the article is very real, it's just that it has been debunked by most of the psychological community.

Could you provide a link to the denunciation?

[Trotza]

Disregard my previous statement, I think I understand your obnoxious and hollow methods for what you think is a proper response now.

What? This article is a popular fraud. I didn't realize people liked to sympathize with bloody fascists so much. I hate misinformation, and this is about as bad as it gets. "Obnoxious and hollow?" Like fascism?

Preferring people to actually debate instead of just calling the other names and thinking that proves anything is not sympathizing with any side except that of reason.

And the fact that you brought up fascism as if it were some sort of defense or counter is honestly laughable, considering I have not said a single thing about it, but it does demonstrate something about your ability to even keep up with a basic line of conversation.

[The Liberated Territories]

Oh great, more socialist nonsense. Guess what, the Holocaust happened, unless you, like Trump, live in a reality denying universe?

[Revanchism]

Average intelligence? What is this, the 1860s? That's completely untrue and absurd. Maybe you should brush up on your modern science instead of old imperialist British nonsense.

Well then, I suppose this article by the American Psychological association which was conducted by noted college academics about the correlation between race and intelligence got the date wrong when it said 2005 instead of 1860.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/ ... 0years.pdf

Edit: As I doubt you will take the time out read it all, http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/0 ... netic.aspx

2nd Edit: How's that modern science working out for ya

Jensen himself has stated "...nowhere have I "claimed" an "innate deficiency" of intelligence in blacks. My position on this question is clearly spelled out in my most recent book: "The plain fact is that at present there exists no scientifically satisfactory explanation for the differences between the IQ distributions in the black and white populations. The only genuine consensus among well-informed scientists on this topic is that the cause of the difference remains an open question."
My personal guess would be that poverty plays a pretty significant role.

Of course, that's not addressing the refutations made by several other psychologists, but I really don't know enough to make a judgement call on that.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Oh the article is very real, it's just that it has been debunked by most of the psychological community.

Could you provide a link to the denunciation?

Oh here's several:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Jensen#Criticism

[Republic of the Cristo]

Well then, I suppose this article by the American Psychological association which was conducted by noted college academics about the correlation between race and intelligence got the date wrong when it said 2005 instead of 1860.

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/ ... 0years.pdf

Edit: As I doubt you will take the time out read it all, http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/0 ... netic.aspx

2nd Edit: How's that modern science working out for ya

Jensen himself has stated "...nowhere have I "claimed" an "innate deficiency" of intelligence in blacks. My position on this question is clearly spelled out in my most recent book: "The plain fact is that at present there exists no scientifically satisfactory explanation for the differences between the IQ distributions in the black and white populations. The only genuine consensus among well-informed scientists on this topic is that the cause of the difference remains an open question."
My personal guess would be that poverty plays a pretty significant role.

Of course, that's not addressing the refutations made by several other psychologists, but I really don't know enough to make a judgement call on that.

I was not speaking strictly of white and black populations, the study given was conducted over numerous races. Although there is no broad consensus as to why some races are less intelligent on average than compared to others, there is an observable difference. And I must prod at your theory of poverty affecting IQ. Although yes, as according to a Princeton study there is a correlation to brainpower and poverty, why then would nations such as China and Poland ( nations with massive populations existing just above the global poverty line of 1.90 USD a day ), still be present in the top 20 highest IQ nations in the world? Poverty certainly isn't affecting them.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Jensen himself has stated "...nowhere have I "claimed" an "innate deficiency" of intelligence in blacks. My position on this question is clearly spelled out in my most recent book: "The plain fact is that at present there exists no scientifically satisfactory explanation for the differences between the IQ distributions in the black and white populations. The only genuine consensus among well-informed scientists on this topic is that the cause of the difference remains an open question."
My personal guess would be that poverty plays a pretty significant role.

Of course, that's not addressing the refutations made by several other psychologists, but I really don't know enough to make a judgement call on that.

I was not speaking strictly of white and black populations, the study given was conducted over numerous races. Although there is no broad consensus as to why some races are less intelligent on average than compared to others, there is an observable difference. And I must prod at your theory of poverty affecting IQ. Although yes, as according to a Princeton study there is a correlation to brainpower and poverty, why then would nations such as China and Poland ( nations with massive populations existing just above the global poverty line of 1.90 USD a day ), still be present in the top 20 highest IQ nations in the world? Poverty certainly isn't affecting them.

Because, again, IQ testing is set with a developed world/European outlook in mind.

That is the standard 100 for an IQ test, the average joe in a developed European nation. If you were to shift populations from European developed nations to African developing nations you'd end up skewing your statistical figures as to make everyone geniuses in Europe in regards of IQ testing.

Which tells more about the bias of the test, than it does about the lack of intellect among populations themselves.

The anomalies between European developing and Asian developing can be attributed to the fact that China and Poland are westernized countries with high standards of education at most levels equating the one children in European countries get.

This is not a new thing.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Could you provide a link to the denunciation?

Oh here's several:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Jensen#Criticism

Look at that article you just gave me... really look. There have been criticism of what he said in the 60's and 70's, as well as a paper he wrote some time in the 70's, but no were is it mentioned in his criticism the paper, " 30 years of research on race relation to cognitive ability ". Said paper is mentioned , however, in his achievements category.

[Cedoria]

With no attempts at explaining why its a better system either. /thread

It's a better system because it protects our Race -- Homogenous nations are inherently better off and not just that, Nazism looks after the people and not the corporate interests. But at the same time, it does not completely control it either, like the Communists. Nazism is the best way to provide American whites with a good life and living space free of aliens.

If Nazism provided a better life, explain why Germany was left in ruins after a twelve year war began by the dictator who espoused it? Surely after all that, you would think an ideology based on perpetual war and race murder might not be a good idea.

Nazism doesn't 'completely' control the state? Do you not recall Nazi theorists explicitly stating that they aimed for a 'total government'? It's based on Mussolini's original Fascist doctrine "everything inside the state, nothing outside the state", with a flimisly constructed pseudo-scientific and now discredited social-darwinist notion too add over the plain old nationalism and tribalistic stupidity it espouses.

[Republic of the Cristo]

I was not speaking strictly of white and black populations, the study given was conducted over numerous races. Although there is no broad consensus as to why some races are less intelligent on average than compared to others, there is an observable difference. And I must prod at your theory of poverty affecting IQ. Although yes, as according to a Princeton study there is a correlation to brainpower and poverty, why then would nations such as China and Poland ( nations with massive populations existing just above the global poverty line of 1.90 USD a day ), still be present in the top 20 highest IQ nations in the world? Poverty certainly isn't affecting them.

Because, again, IQ testing is set with a developed world/European outlook in mind.

That is the standard 100 for an IQ test, the average joe in a developed European nation. If you were to shift populations from European developed nations to African developing nations you'd end up skewing your statistical figures as to make everyone geniuses in Europe in regards of IQ testing.

Which tells more about the bias of the test, than it does about the lack of intellect among populations themselves.

If you read the research paper, or even the condensed link I gave, you would see that East Asians received the highest score on the European/western made IQ test.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Because, again, IQ testing is set with a developed world/European outlook in mind.

That is the standard 100 for an IQ test, the average joe in a developed European nation. If you were to shift populations from European developed nations to African developing nations you'd end up skewing your statistical figures as to make everyone geniuses in Europe in regards of IQ testing.

Which tells more about the bias of the test, than it does about the lack of intellect among populations themselves.

If you read the research paper, or even the condensed link I gave, you would see that East Asians received the highest score on the European/western made IQ test.

East Asians are westernized though, which isn't being accounted for in the testing.

China is a westernized country as well as Japan, the two most prominent East Asian nations. So it's not exactly an anomaly as much as it is entirely predicted that they're going to score close, or better, than Europeans.

[Cedoria]

lovin dem puns

Okay, let's ALL go back to our own countries.

Get back to Europe, white man, and leave us native Americans with our land.

I would if all of us would fit on the European continent. Really, how many natives are even left in America?

We're all from Africa initially mate. This whole 'go back to where they came from' thing would all lead us back to the same roots ultimately, but I think I'm not wrong in speculating that you actually don't mean we should live in the places we all came from to that extent.

You may claim not too advocate genocide, but then, the Nazi Party initially did not either, they deported en masse, just as you now propose, and the plan for genocide developed subsequently. That you lavish praise upon contenders for the most disgusting human beings ever to curse the human race is alone enough to make people rightly suspicious of you.


This is about the nastiest thread I have seen on Nationstates for a while, and I do hope OP soon gets some assistance for his mental health (I'm not trying to be sardonic here, I really am concerned for the health of somebody who spouts such ludicrous rubbish)

[Republic of the Cristo]

If you read the research paper, or even the condensed link I gave, you would see that East Asians received the highest score on the European/western made IQ test.

East Asians are westernized though, which isn't being accounted for in the testing.

China is a westernized country as well as Japan, the two most prominent East Asian nations. So it's not exactly an anomaly as much as it is entirely predicted that they're going to score close, or better, than Europeans.

... I am sorry, but that wrong. East Asian society is observably and objectively different from western society. Western society is classified as being western Europe, America/Canada, Australia/New Zealand. It can be categorized as highly individualistic, secular to Christian, and heavily influenced by the ideas of enlightenment. East Asian society is generally defined more with collectivism, secularism to Buddhism to local religions ( often mixed with Buddhism ), and is heavily influenced by the works of Confucianism and Taoism. East Asians do not consider themselves Westerners and vice versa. We may share a few common characteristics such as music, fashion, and economics, but that is about it. The cultures are different.