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Twitter Interrupted! (DDOS attack)

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Is internet DDOS attack a serious threat? Should we be alarmed?

1. Pfft, who needs twitter or reddit?
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2. We must investigate possible involvement by foreign governments
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3. Perhaps domestic political interests are planning some mischief.
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4. Too soon to tell
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5. Nothing to see here, move along, move along
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6. Other
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Total votes : 71

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Twitter Interrupted! (DDOS attack)

Postby Pope Joan » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:01 pm

Hackers are accused of a DDOS attack on "upstream" internet providers.

East Coast USA was most affected, although there may also have been effects in the UK.

'Dyn, which manages website domains and routes internet traffic, experienced two distributed denial of service attacks on its DNS servers. A DDoS attack is an attempt to flood a website with so much traffic that it impairs normal service.



Affected sites included Twitter (TWTR, Tech30), Etsy (ETSY), Github, Vox, Spotify, Airbnb, Netflix (NFLX, Tech30) and Reddit. "

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/21/technol ... lar-sites/

Could this be a prelude to election tampering? Are there nation states incolved? (Russia has been accused in earlier incidents, but not, so far, this time.)
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:02 pm

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Postby Mordor Secundus » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:03 pm

Other than Netflix, I see no worth in any of these sites, so duh.

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Postby Sane Outcasts » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:07 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Hackers are accused of a DDOS attack on "upstream" internet providers.

East Coast USA was most affected, although there may also have been effects in the UK.

'Dyn, which manages website domains and routes internet traffic, experienced two distributed denial of service attacks on its DNS servers. A DDoS attack is an attempt to flood a website with so much traffic that it impairs normal service.



Affected sites included Twitter (TWTR, Tech30), Etsy (ETSY), Github, Vox, Spotify, Airbnb, Netflix (NFLX, Tech30) and Reddit. "

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/21/technol ... lar-sites/

Could this be a prelude to election tampering? Are there nation states incolved? (Russia has been accused in earlier incidents, but not, so far, this time.)

State-sponsored hackers are much more targeted in their approach and do actual hacking instead of digitally dog-piling a server.

The attack looks like some private individuals found a vulnerability and decided to exploit it for whatever reason. Fun, notoriety, whatever floated their boat.

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Postby Khadgar » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:07 pm

Eh..


Why would anyone attack Twitter?

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:09 pm


Methinks your Clinton hate blinds you
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Postby Indian Empire » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:09 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Hackers are accused of a DDOS attack on "upstream" internet providers.

East Coast USA was most affected, although there may also have been effects in the UK.

'Dyn, which manages website domains and routes internet traffic, experienced two distributed denial of service attacks on its DNS servers. A DDoS attack is an attempt to flood a website with so much traffic that it impairs normal service.



Affected sites included Twitter (TWTR, Tech30), Etsy (ETSY), Github, Vox, Spotify, Airbnb, Netflix (NFLX, Tech30) and Reddit. "

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/21/technol ... lar-sites/

Could this be a prelude to election tampering? Are there nation states incolved? (Russia has been accused in earlier incidents, but not, so far, this time.)


It's like half the internet. It's also quite strange that some of the sites I can't access on PC are available on my Mobile Phone. NS just proved why independent servers are the way to go.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:09 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Methinks your Clinton hate blinds you

Or it could be Russia. It's either Clinton or Russia.

or just some twelve-year old trolls
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Postby Balkenreich » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:10 pm

Get fucked, Twitter.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:10 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Methinks your Clinton hate blinds you

Or it could be Russia. It's either Clinton or Russia.

or just some twelve-year old trolls


Or some 450 pound fat guy in his mom's basement, right?
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Postby Chernobyliya » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:12 pm

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Postby Indian Empire » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:12 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Methinks your Clinton hate blinds you

Or it could be Russia. It's either Clinton or Russia.

or just some twelve-year old trolls


We are being too quick to blame someone without any evidence. We have no paper trails to track who did it yet. Sure, it could be Russia or NK, but we don't have enough evidence to make conclusions yet.
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Postby Cresenthia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:13 pm

**Sigh** Someone discovered a new way to cause chaos, again.

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Postby Balkenreich » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:14 pm

Chernobyliya wrote:

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why they havent used that photo more is still a mystery to me.
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Postby Galiagolach » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:14 pm

Oh my god, the incorrect terms today are making me sick...

Just to clear this up for everyone: DDoS is NOT a form of hacking. DDoS stands for Distributed Denial of Service. There's no hacking involved in the attack; rather it can better be compared to just hitting a server with blunt force rather than actually hacking into it and messing with the information inside.

A DDoS works by taking a whole bunch of computers and commanding them to flood the targeted server with an extremely large amount of requests, bogging down the network to the point of not allowing any more connections to the site. Think about it like trying to shove 10,000 people through the doors of a small bank all at once, preventing regular people from getting inside like they want/need to.

It is NOT a form of hacking. No data in the actual server is being manipulated (unless a virus or a trojan somehow got inside and compromised the server beforehand). You can't just DDoS a voting booth or something and manipulate the votes already casted. All it will do is severely inhibit the ability to cast said vote.

If I'm wrong somewhere about this, please let me know. I am very certain, though, that a DDoS by definition is not supposed to manipulate data within the server.

That is all.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:14 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Methinks your Clinton hate blinds you

Or it could be Russia. It's either Clinton or Russia.

or just some twelve-year old trolls

I'm going with people who did it for shits and giggles. Because neither Clinton nor Russia has any reason to shut down freaking Netflix
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Postby Hansdeltania » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:15 pm

Californian here. I guess that explains why it took a long time to get into Twitter before I got a "server error" message.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:15 pm

Indian Empire wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Or it could be Russia. It's either Clinton or Russia.

or just some twelve-year old trolls


We are being too quick to blame someone without any evidence. We have no paper trails to track who did it yet. Sure, it could be Russia or NK, but we don't have enough evidence to make conclusions yet.

Why would Russia want to shut down Netflix? I mean I can see why NK would but Russia?
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Postby Balkenreich » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Indian Empire wrote:
We are being too quick to blame someone without any evidence. We have no paper trails to track who did it yet. Sure, it could be Russia or NK, but we don't have enough evidence to make conclusions yet.

Why would Russia want to shut down Netflix? I mean I can see why NK would but Russia?


Not enough movies about the Chechen wars.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Indian Empire wrote:
We are being too quick to blame someone without any evidence. We have no paper trails to track who did it yet. Sure, it could be Russia or NK, but we don't have enough evidence to make conclusions yet.

Why would Russia want to shut down Netflix? I mean I can see why NK would but Russia?


Because it's American? There doesn't have to be any other reason than that: to piss off/fuck with Americans.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Galiagolach wrote:Oh my god, the incorrect terms today are making me sick...

Just to clear this up for everyone: DDoS is NOT a form of hacking. DDoS stands for Distributed Denial of Service. There's no hacking involved in the attack; rather it can better be compared to just hitting a server with blunt force rather than actually hacking into it and messing with the information inside.

A DDoS works by taking a whole bunch of computers and commanding them to flood the targeted server with an extremely large amount of requests, bogging down the network to the point of not allowing any more connections to the site. Think about it like trying to shove 10,000 people through the doors of a small bank all at once, preventing regular people from getting inside like they want/need to.

It is NOT a form of hacking. No data in the actual server is being manipulated (unless a virus or a trojan somehow got inside and compromised the server beforehand). You can't just DDoS a voting booth or something and manipulate the votes already casted. All it will do is severely inhibit the ability to cast said vote.

If I'm wrong somewhere about this, please let me know. I am very certain, though, that a DDoS by definition is not supposed to manipulate data within the server.

That is all.

So basically this is just an asshole move
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Postby Chernobyliya » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Or it could be Russia. It's either Clinton or Russia.

or just some twelve-year old trolls


Or some 450 pound fat guy in his mom's basement, right?

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Postby Cresenthia » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Galiagolach wrote:Oh my god, the incorrect terms today are making me sick...

Just to clear this up for everyone: DDoS is NOT a form of hacking. DDoS stands for Distributed Denial of Service. There's no hacking involved in the attack; rather it can better be compared to just hitting a server with blunt force rather than actually hacking into it and messing with the information inside.

A DDoS works by taking a whole bunch of computers and commanding them to flood the targeted server with an extremely large amount of requests, bogging down the network to the point of not allowing any more connections to the site. Think about it like trying to shove 10,000 people through the doors of a small bank all at once, preventing regular people from getting inside like they want/need to.

It is NOT a form of hacking. No data in the actual server is being manipulated (unless a virus or a trojan somehow got inside and compromised the server beforehand). You can't just DDoS a voting booth or something and manipulate the votes already casted. All it will do is severely inhibit the ability to cast said vote.

If I'm wrong somewhere about this, please let me know. I am very certain, though, that a DDoS by definition is not supposed to manipulate data within the server.

That is all.

It makes me feel better when I learn that someone else in the world knows how the Internet works.

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Postby PaNTuXIa » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:16 pm

Chernobyliya wrote:

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nah, it's porky
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:17 pm

Twitter is currently working for me. So is eBay. Haven't checked any of the other allegedly down sites.

Also I am guessing this is another DDOS enabled by the Internet of Things?
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