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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:40 pm

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As of recently it's just an accusation that's necessary for one to be exiled from their university, right?

In certain instances, it certainly seems to be that way.


Quite unfortunate that the victims accusation is taken as an absolute truth without solid evidence in the university institutional environment.
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Postby Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:40 pm

r/anarchism is the worst, man...
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Postby The V O I D » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:41 pm

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And?

Non-members are presumably guests of members or simply investigating to see if they wish to attend that church. Those you consider non-members are vastly different from those who were approved for membership and are suddenly 'no longer members' if they happen to be found out as openly LGBT people.

If they don't have to prove you actually committed it, then you don't have to commit a crime to get kicked out.

Again, if they don't want to follow the rules of the Church, why should we be forced to cater to them?


There usually is a private investigation by the college as well as the authorities, and sometimes the kid isn't expelled but rather kept away from the victim's classes and such until such time as the investigation ends.

Because what they do outside of the church is not church business. Church law and code of conduct only extends as far as the church's property.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:43 pm

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Jochizyd Republic wrote:Reddit is pretty...diverse...opinion wise. There are New Atheists and Extremist Liberals and College Commies, but also, on many subreddits with a lot of traffic, straight up Stormfront shit

The site in general is terrible.


R/Politics and stuff sucks.

But, I sometimes hit up R/NoSleep to write some kick ass horror fiction, or R/Movies to discuss indie films. Theres some other good, relatively non-political subreddits not infested with neckbeard basement dwellers on a diet of arrogance and Mountain Dew.

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Napkiraly wrote:In certain instances, it certainly seems to be that way.


Quite unfortunate that the victims accusation is taken as an absolute truth without solid evidence in the university institution.
Indeed. I understand the difficulties in rape and sexual assault cases, particularly when it comes to how they are handled and conviction rates, etc. That said, the solution is not to move towards a system of guilty until proven innocent, which is just as bad if not worse.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:43 pm

Minzerland II wrote:r/anarchism is the worst, man...

Anarchism in general is the worst.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:43 pm

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United Marxist Nations wrote:If they don't have to prove you actually committed it, then you don't have to commit a crime to get kicked out.

Again, if they don't want to follow the rules of the Church, why should we be forced to cater to them?


There usually is a private investigation by the college as well as the authorities, and sometimes the kid isn't expelled but rather kept away from the victim's classes and such until such time as the investigation ends.

Because what they do outside of the church is not church business. Church law and code of conduct only extends as far as the church's property.

Then why can we not refuse to give communion to people who don't make attempts to follow those rules?
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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
R/Politics and stuff sucks.

But, I sometimes hit up R/NoSleep to write some kick ass horror fiction, or R/Movies to discuss indie films. Theres some other good, relatively non-political subreddits not infested with neckbeard basement dwellers on a diet of arrogance and Mountain Dew.

Clearly the superior beverage is Fanta. *nod*


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Postby Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:r/anarchism is the worst, man...

Anarchism in general is the worst.

Indeed. But imagine Anarchism tenfold...there you go, you have r/anarchism.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:44 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:r/anarchism is the worst, man...

Anarchism in general is the worst.


Yay, someone who agrees with me!

Though to me anarchism shares worse with Communism.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:46 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Anarchism in general is the worst.

Indeed. But imagine Anarchism tenfold...there you go, you have r/anarchism.


Minzerland, we call that heresy.

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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:46 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Clearly the superior beverage is Fanta. *nod*


M'soda.

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Postby Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:47 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Indeed. But imagine Anarchism tenfold...there you go, you have r/anarchism.


Minzerland, we call that heresy.

Then r/anarchism is a synonym of heresy. It is heresy in its purest form.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:48 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
R/Politics and stuff sucks.

But, I sometimes hit up R/NoSleep to write some kick ass horror fiction, or R/Movies to discuss indie films. Theres some other good, relatively non-political subreddits not infested with neckbeard basement dwellers on a diet of arrogance and Mountain Dew.

Clearly the superior beverage is Fanta. *nod*
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Quite unfortunate that the victims accusation is taken as an absolute truth without solid evidence in the university institution.
Indeed. I understand the difficulties in rape and sexual assault cases, particularly when it comes to how they are handled and conviction rates, etc. That said, the solution is not to move towards a system of guilty until proven innocent, which is just as bad if not worse.


In a 'Guilty Until Proven Innocent' system, imprisonment, when no evidence presents itself as your saving grace, becomes the default conclusion; and if that isn't the default conclusion, a life of solitude and sorrow because you've been marked a sexual predator is.

That's the events of which I see coming to occur should we adopt the 'Guilty Until Proven Innocent' system of which, from my point of view, has gained popularity in recent years.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:48 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Anarchism in general is the worst.


Yay, someone who agrees with me!

Though to me anarchism shares worse with Communism.

Communism is simply a particular strand of anarchism tho.

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Postby Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:50 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
M'soda.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:50 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Yay, someone who agrees with me!

Though to me anarchism shares worse with Communism.

Communism is simply a particular strand of anarchism tho.


Depends on which strand of communism you go into though. Communism like Marx wanted was anarchism.

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Postby The V O I D » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:50 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
There usually is a private investigation by the college as well as the authorities, and sometimes the kid isn't expelled but rather kept away from the victim's classes and such until such time as the investigation ends.

Because what they do outside of the church is not church business. Church law and code of conduct only extends as far as the church's property.

Then why can we not refuse to give communion to people who don't make attempts to follow those rules?


Because those rules do not extend into their daily lives outside of the church's property? Unless they're doing something on your property, it isn't valid because it isn't your business.

That's like saying a hunter's club can refuse to let me participate for not liking to hunt anymore outside, but occasionally going just to go when I show up.

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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:51 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Then why can we not refuse to give communion to people who don't make attempts to follow those rules?


Because those rules do not extend into their daily lives outside of the church's property? Unless they're doing something on your property, it isn't valid because it isn't your business.

That's like saying a hunter's club can refuse to let me participate for not liking to hunt anymore outside, but occasionally going just to go when I show up.


Yes, the Hunter's club can very much do that if they please. Its their club.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:52 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Communism is simply a particular strand of anarchism tho.


Depends on which strand of communism you go into though. Communism like Marx wanted was anarchism.

While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:58 pm

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Then why can we not refuse to give communion to people who don't make attempts to follow those rules?


Because those rules do not extend into their daily lives outside of the church's property? Unless they're doing something on your property, it isn't valid because it isn't your business.

That's like saying a hunter's club can refuse to let me participate for not liking to hunt anymore outside, but occasionally going just to go when I show up.

The Church is supposed to play a role in the community. You're trying to literally detach people from their faith, you cannot.

Also, I would agree with the hunters' club in that case.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:04 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
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Depends on which strand of communism you go into though. Communism like Marx wanted was anarchism.

While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.


Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.

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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:11 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.


Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.


This reminds me of another video that fills me with "hoppe"
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:13 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.


Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.


AlternateHistoryHub is based.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:23 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.


AlternateHistoryHub is based.


Quam?

The East Marches wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.


This reminds me of another video that fills me with "hoppe"


I wish my head wasnt hurting so I could understand what he is trying to say.

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