Quite unfortunate that the victims accusation is taken as an absolute truth without solid evidence in the university institutional environment.
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by FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:40 pm
by Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:40 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by The V O I D » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:41 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:The V O I D wrote:
And?
Non-members are presumably guests of members or simply investigating to see if they wish to attend that church. Those you consider non-members are vastly different from those who were approved for membership and are suddenly 'no longer members' if they happen to be found out as openly LGBT people.
If they don't have to prove you actually committed it, then you don't have to commit a crime to get kicked out.
Again, if they don't want to follow the rules of the Church, why should we be forced to cater to them?
by Napkiraly » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:43 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Jochizyd Republic wrote:Reddit is pretty...diverse...opinion wise. There are New Atheists and Extremist Liberals and College Commies, but also, on many subreddits with a lot of traffic, straight up Stormfront shit
The site in general is terrible.
R/Politics and stuff sucks.
But, I sometimes hit up R/NoSleep to write some kick ass horror fiction, or R/Movies to discuss indie films. Theres some other good, relatively non-political subreddits not infested with neckbeard basement dwellers on a diet of arrogance and Mountain Dew.
Indeed. I understand the difficulties in rape and sexual assault cases, particularly when it comes to how they are handled and conviction rates, etc. That said, the solution is not to move towards a system of guilty until proven innocent, which is just as bad if not worse.
by United Marxist Nations » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:43 pm
The V O I D wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:If they don't have to prove you actually committed it, then you don't have to commit a crime to get kicked out.
Again, if they don't want to follow the rules of the Church, why should we be forced to cater to them?
There usually is a private investigation by the college as well as the authorities, and sometimes the kid isn't expelled but rather kept away from the victim's classes and such until such time as the investigation ends.
Because what they do outside of the church is not church business. Church law and code of conduct only extends as far as the church's property.
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by Major-Tom » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:44 pm
Napkiraly wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
R/Politics and stuff sucks.
But, I sometimes hit up R/NoSleep to write some kick ass horror fiction, or R/Movies to discuss indie films. Theres some other good, relatively non-political subreddits not infested with neckbeard basement dwellers on a diet of arrogance and Mountain Dew.
Clearly the superior beverage is Fanta. *nod*
by Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:44 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:44 pm
by Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:46 pm
by Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:47 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:48 pm
Napkiraly wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
R/Politics and stuff sucks.
But, I sometimes hit up R/NoSleep to write some kick ass horror fiction, or R/Movies to discuss indie films. Theres some other good, relatively non-political subreddits not infested with neckbeard basement dwellers on a diet of arrogance and Mountain Dew.
Clearly the superior beverage is Fanta. *nod*Indeed. I understand the difficulties in rape and sexual assault cases, particularly when it comes to how they are handled and conviction rates, etc. That said, the solution is not to move towards a system of guilty until proven innocent, which is just as bad if not worse.FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Quite unfortunate that the victims accusation is taken as an absolute truth without solid evidence in the university institution.
by Minzerland II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:50 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:50 pm
by The V O I D » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:50 pm
United Marxist Nations wrote:The V O I D wrote:
There usually is a private investigation by the college as well as the authorities, and sometimes the kid isn't expelled but rather kept away from the victim's classes and such until such time as the investigation ends.
Because what they do outside of the church is not church business. Church law and code of conduct only extends as far as the church's property.
Then why can we not refuse to give communion to people who don't make attempts to follow those rules?
by The East Marches » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:51 pm
The V O I D wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:Then why can we not refuse to give communion to people who don't make attempts to follow those rules?
Because those rules do not extend into their daily lives outside of the church's property? Unless they're doing something on your property, it isn't valid because it isn't your business.
That's like saying a hunter's club can refuse to let me participate for not liking to hunt anymore outside, but occasionally going just to go when I show up.
by Napkiraly » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:52 pm
by United Marxist Nations » Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:58 pm
The V O I D wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:Then why can we not refuse to give communion to people who don't make attempts to follow those rules?
Because those rules do not extend into their daily lives outside of the church's property? Unless they're doing something on your property, it isn't valid because it isn't your business.
That's like saying a hunter's club can refuse to let me participate for not liking to hunt anymore outside, but occasionally going just to go when I show up.
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.
by Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:04 pm
Napkiraly wrote:Germanic Templars wrote:
Depends on which strand of communism you go into though. Communism like Marx wanted was anarchism.
While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.
by The East Marches » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:11 pm
Germanic Templars wrote:Napkiraly wrote:While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.
Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.
by FelrikTheDeleted » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:13 pm
Germanic Templars wrote:Napkiraly wrote:While others have different ideas on how to reach the communist stage of human development, I cannot think of one that fundamentally, on an ideological level, disagreed with the withering of the state and therefore creating an anarchic system. This is one reason why the USSR never claimed to be communist but socialist. IIRC only Romania and East Germany claimed to be actually at the communist stage which, to anyone who knows their communist philosophy, is simply laughable.
Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.
by Victoriala II » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:17 pm
by Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:23 pm
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:Germanic Templars wrote:
Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.
AlternateHistoryHub is based.
The East Marches wrote:Germanic Templars wrote:
Agreed on that. This reminds me of a "what if" video.A world where Stalin never came to power.
This reminds me of another video that fills me with "hoppe"
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