Is the Upcoming U.S. Election That Bad?

[Kazarogkai]

I was looking forward to my first vote. I'm not planning on voting in november, fuck hilary(and trump for that matter).

Vote third party. While it might not win, it will show that that third party is gaining political clout among Americans, and that, perhaps in an election or two, said third party will be a serious contender for POTUS.

((Gary Johnson, 2k16. Libertarians.))

I hate the libertarians, and the greens for that matter... Plus I hate reagan and his ilk so the constitutional party is out.

[Kazarogkai]

Why is there even a bipartisan system to begin with?

FPTP encourages it.

And the presidential reinforces it. By themselves they can be overcome in some cases but together it is almost impossible.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

No. China and Russia aren't going to be nuked. There's not going to be a ban on Muslims entering the county. Gun's aren't going anywhere. The supreme court and congress simply put won't allow most of either candidate's policy to be implemented.

You better believe that wall is going up though.

[Implacable Death]

No. China and Russia aren't going to be nuked. There's not going to be a ban on Muslims entering the county. Gun's aren't going anywhere. The supreme court and congress simply put won't allow most of either candidate's policy to be implemented.

You better believe that wall is going up though.

What amuses me is that there's walls like that everywhere across the world, but no, the one Trump wants to build is the bad one.

[Neutraligon]

No. China and Russia aren't going to be nuked. There's not going to be a ban on Muslims entering the county. Gun's aren't going anywhere. The supreme court and congress simply put won't allow most of either candidate's policy to be implemented.

You better believe that wall is going up though.

What amuses me is that there's walls like that everywhere across the world, but no, the one Trump wants to build is the bad one.

That wall is far larger then any "similar" wall. That alone is problem enough.

[Dahon]

What amuses me is that there's walls like that everywhere across the world, but no, the one Trump wants to build is the bad one.

The United States of America isn't the whole wide world, yo.

I can't quite recall if any previous administration had bankrolled a wall with the same intentions Trump has with his, but even if one or two did, that would've been in a past out of memory with us. So one could say building walls to keep those scummy scammy foreigners out isn't an American tradition.

[Thaumatopia]

No, Americans won't. Protest votes are just that. Protest votes. They aren't necessarily endorsements of a third party's policies, let alone its ideology. All it is is a vote against the current political regime. Nothing more and nothing less. Thinking that protest voting this year will lead to increased support for said party above, say, 2% is ludicrous and an example of wishful thinking and cognitive dissonance.

History bares out that relatively successful third party runs don't lead to a breakup of the two-party system.

Why is there even a bipartisan system to begin with?

Imagine a robust political system with many parties, but there are 3 top parties are taking most of the vote: Party A takes 40%, B and C are ~ 30% and 30%. Party A wins the election, but if B and C have aligned interests, they can merge, to get 60%.

This general process, over many election cycles, encourages larger parties to scavenge smaller parties with aligned views, as the merged party can win where the two separate parties couldn't. Smaller parties merge or collapse; and new parties are discouraged from forming as they would go into an environment where they only way they would achieve anything, would be to merge with existing larger parties.