Is the Alt-Right inherently racist?

[Augusta Pinochet]

Spain has high unemployment rates last time i checked. Also Japan has Guest working programs. Not the same as Refugees.

Are you implying that Spain's economic troubles are the result of immigration?

No. Thats because of the Real Estate bubble.

Why they aren't getting Workers from Spain however? Why they do get immigrants from Countries who have trouble to get around, or even CAUSE trouble?

Look, I don't believe into that Eurabia stuff, but somebody is doing the Population exchanging.

[Alvecia]

Are you implying that Spain's economic troubles are the result of immigration?

No.

Then there was no reason to bring Spain up in a conversation about the economic benefits of immigration. Clearly Spain would be in economic trouble regardless and your point was meaningless.

[Even Less of Mackonia]

Yes. What the majority of people know of as the "Alt-Right" are White Nationalists plain and simple, anything less than that is an abuse of an already widely abused term. This isn't a case of typical leftist idiocy "DURR UKIP R WRASISTS" rubbish, the Alt-Right simply are an openly racist movement founded on white ethnonationalism. If you don't believe in that and call yourself Alt-Right because muh trigger warnings, you're in the wrong party.

[Augusta Pinochet]

Cultural Marxism is kill for western civilization, because it slowly degenerates it through subversion and so-called "critical thought". Those are Weapons in a War of destruction against the West that started in the 1960s with the Frankfurt School and is now carried onwards by Social Justice Warriors.

In the end though, Cultural Marxism is like a ghost, it’s difficult to catch.

you just said a lot of words that mean nothing, and I'm 100% sure you don't actually know the meaning of either

Do you want Graphics? Or Memes?

any other Country on the Planet is following it's basic interests. Only the West is not

Which explains why the West has the lowest crime rates, best education, longest lives, and the greatest incomes.

Or maybe not.

How is this related to immigration Politics? Has Japan or Australia been dropped? No. Those are wonderful Countries. They are doing well. They are wealthly. They have the highest HDI's and Life expectancies on the Planet.

No.

Then there was no reason to bring Spain up in a conversation about the economic benefits of immigration. Clearly Spain would be in economic trouble regardless and your point was meaningless.

Its completly meaningful, even if you ripped the important point apart. But if you look at the Statistics, and pick up the Stories, then you can't deny that somebody's is doing the Population exchanging. You know.

[Alvecia]

Then there was no reason to bring Spain up in a conversation about the economic benefits of immigration. Clearly Spain would be in economic trouble regardless and your point was meaningless.

Its completly meaningful, even if you ripped the important point apart. But if you look at the Statistics, and pick up the Stories, then you can't deny that somebody's is doing the Population exchanging. You know.

Are you suggesting European countries are covertly agreeing to swap immigrants?
Ok mate, sure thing, let me just grab my tin foil hat....

[Ostroeuropa]

Its completly meaningful, even if you ripped the important point apart. But if you look at the Statistics, and pick up the Stories, then you can't deny that somebody's is doing the Population exchanging. You know.

Are you suggesting European countries are covertly agreeing to swap immigrants?
Ok mate, sure thing, let me just grab my tin foil hat....

It's part of a project to undermine nationalism in the EU. It's not covert, it's in their documentation. Multiculturalism has the side benefit of making it easier to form european identity for them.
If each country becomes a little europa, it's simpler to push for uniting them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395

[Augusta Pinochet]

Its completly meaningful, even if you ripped the important point apart. But if you look at the Statistics, and pick up the Stories, then you can't deny that somebody's is doing the Population exchanging. You know.

Are you suggesting European countries are covertly agreeing to swap immigrants?
Ok mate, sure thing, let me just grab my tin foil hat....

No. Not covertly. But overtly.

I am not the one who is doing it. Don't ask me. But they are doing it.

Bringing knowingly a lot of People in their Countries from which they do know that it is going to be trouble. In addition to the problems they have already with the People that are there. With the unemployment they have. So the argument "need more Workers" works not out. If they needed workers they could give Green Cards to People.

So whether it is intentional or not, they are changing the Demographics.

[Freefall11111]

How is this related to immigration Politics? Has Japan or Australia been dropped? No. Those are wonderful Countries. They are doing well. They are wealthly. They have the highest HDI's and Life expectancies on the Planet.

I'm not surprised you haven't noticed, since apparently nobody bothers to actually read statistics anymore, but both of your examples have faults. First, Australia's strict immigration system is a myth (it has a higher percentage of foreign-born citizens than almost every country, with over 25% of the population being born outside of Oz, and research by DIAC showed they were a net benefit to the labour market). Second, Japan has stagnated for over two decades and is due to decline as a result of their demographic problems (of which they're fully aware, and a more lax attitude to immigrants has already grown in Japanese society, most recently shown perhaps most prominently when the opposition party elected a half-Taiwanese leader). A good portion of Japan's rise in the modern era was a result of American occupation and reconstruction efforts anyway, so you can thank America.

[Imperializt Russia]

Cultural Marxism does have a meaning, as cringy as a term it is.

Looking it up, it is what we would call 'political correctness'.

Political correctness has a meaning, and it damn well isn't "cultural marxism".

[Imperializt Russia]

I love this term.
It's completely meaningless, yet every time it's used you can almost hear the mic drop

I can assure you it has a meaning. Words have meanings.
What term do you suggest I use instead? "The regressive left" and "SJWs" just sounds silly.

Maybe you should reflect on why this is the case.

[Tongau]

Political Correctness is also meaningless. It's just a way to whine that saying crappy things makes people say 'hey, you're being a jerk'. The people who whine about it are the most thin skinned babies possible, who genuinely seem to believe 'free speech' means 'no one can dislike things I say'.

[Alvecia]

Are you suggesting European countries are covertly agreeing to swap immigrants?
Ok mate, sure thing, let me just grab my tin foil hat....

It's part of a project to undermine nationalism in the EU. It's not covert, it's in their documentation. Multiculturalism has the side benefit of making it easier to form european identity for them.
If each country becomes a little europa, it's simpler to push for uniting them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395

That source doesn't actually support your assertion

[Tongau]

Are you suggesting European countries are covertly agreeing to swap immigrants?
Ok mate, sure thing, let me just grab my tin foil hat....

It's part of a project to undermine nationalism in the EU. It's not covert, it's in their documentation. Multiculturalism has the side benefit of making it easier to form european identity for them.
If each country becomes a little europa, it's simpler to push for uniting them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395

imagine being a pony fan and somehow thinking multiculturalism is some elaborate plot to 'undermine natinalism'

[Kaifunasia]

The one thing they have in common is their opposition to the political correctness, safe space, trigger warning culture that is being created by the regressive left, amongst other things.

What do you think?

Dang, I was planning my own whole topic on this... Oh well. I'd say yes, there's definitely a strong current of racism in the alt right, although I'm curious if the above statement you've given is how you would define the alt right. If so, I would say your definition is a poor one, because someone could have all of those beliefs but still end up as left wing, and as such likely wouldn't be a part of the alt right.

I see where you're coming from, but I would say that people on the left almost always support political correctness in some shape or form; I have come across VERY few examples of left-leaning libertarians... The best I can think of is Sargon of Akkad, the YouTuber, who has slight leftist leanings but despises political correctness and uncontrolled migration. The Amazing Atheist is somewhat similar I guess. They certainly aren't a part of the Alt-Right.

In retrospect, pretty much ALL Alt-Righters oppose those things.

[Augusta Pinochet]

It's part of a project to undermine nationalism in the EU. It's not covert, it's in their documentation. Multiculturalism has the side benefit of making it easier to form european identity for them.
If each country becomes a little europa, it's simpler to push for uniting them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395

That source doesn't actually support your assertion

It does support both the assertion and gives reason for what I have been pointed out before.

It gives you an insight in what those People think who make those decisions and how detached they are from reality.

It does so in a disturbing and dreadful way. This is not going to end well.

[Tongau]

Sargon of Akkad is a white nationalist, there's literally no further right position to take.

Funny enough people like him 100% rely on 'safe spaces' and all, they just need them for their own views, because data shows the best way to cure a crazy xenophobic idiot is to actually show them real life people from other cultures and show them that there's not actually some magic difference that makes one 'more european/american/whatever' than another.

[Herulija]

*sigh*

One says 'black lives matter,' another 'says all lives matter,' another says 'kill whitey...' Now yet another term is invented, this 'alt-right' BS, to further divide and segregate another group into a nice tidy little box for the shelf. This argument will never be peacefully resolved. I have a better idea....

Why don't you all just kill each other and get it over with? I am beginning to suspect that civil war is inevitable, so why prolong the agony and continue dragging more and more people into it? Neither side is going to give way, neither side is interested in "inclusiveness and peace".... BOTH are actively spoiling for a fight. Fine. Get it over with. Let's see which side is REALLY more motivated. "UHHH war is bad! We just want peaceful discourse and love for everyone!" Oh piss off.... no you don't. That argument becomes more and more illogical with every riot you stage. You want a fight in order to remain relevant, and to satisfy your own sense of belonging and to find some semblance of stability in an otherwise unstable and senseless world. Hell, I'm beginning to wonder if "The purge" should be a reality show rather than fiction. And before any of you social justice types or professionally offended idiots come slithering over to criticize me- no, I'm not a racist, I'm a Cynic and frankly I don't give a fuck what you think of me, so don't bother.

I have always believed in live and let live. I don't give a damn who or what you 'identify' as, what color you are, or what you stand for. If you are an asshole, I will tell you to your face. If you are friendly, I'll buy you a beer and have a pleasant chat. If you need help, I am the first to volunteer. If you are a threat, I will end you without batting an eye. I come from the time when a handshake meant friendship, and giving your word was an oath not taken lightly. You have all gotten yourselves so wrapped around the axle that you don't know if your asses are bored or punched anymore. STOP being part of the hive and buzzing over to every little thing, and you'll find that life is a simpler and more pleasant prospect.

[Alvecia]

That source doesn't actually support your assertion

It does support both the assertion and gives reason for what I have been pointed out before.

It gives you an insight in what those People think who make those decisions and how detached they are from reality.

It does so in a disturbing and dreadful way. This is not going to end well.

It really doesn't.
Nothing in that article supports the assertion that European countries are actively swapping citizens.
Nothing in that article supports the assertion that European countries plan to swap cotizrns.

All that article states is that a high ranking EU official thinks that we should try to reduce homogeneity.
In fact even the way in which his thoughts are phrased heavily implies that the way to do this would be to loosen restrictions on non EU immigration

[Tongau]

*sigh*

One says 'black lives matter,' another 'says all lives matter,' another says 'kill whitey...' Now yet another term is invented, this 'alt-right' BS, to further divide and segregate another group into a nice tidy little box for the shelf. This argument will never be peacefully resolved. I have a better idea....

Why don't you all just kill each other and get it over with? I am beginning to suspect that civil war is inevitable, so why prolong the agony and continue dragging more and more people into it? Neither side is going to give way, neither side is interested in "inclusiveness and peace".... BOTH are actively spoiling for a fight. Fine. Get it over with. Let's see which side is REALLY more motivated. "UHHH war is bad! We just want peaceful discourse and love for everyone!" Oh piss off.... no you don't. That argument becomes more and more illogical with every riot you stage. You want a fight in order to remain relevant, and to satisfy your own sense of belonging and to find some semblance of stability in an otherwise unstable and senseless world. Hell, I'm beginning to wonder if "The purge" should be a reality show rather than fiction. And before any of you social justice types or professionally offended idiots come slithering over to criticize me- no, I'm not a racist, I'm a Cynic and frankly I don't give a fuck what you think of me, so don't bother.

I have always believed in live and let live. I don't give a damn who or what you 'identify' as, what color you are, or what you stand for. If you are an asshole, I will tell you to your face. If you are friendly, I'll buy you a beer and have a pleasant chat. If you need help, I am the first to volunteer. If you are a threat, I will end you without batting an eye. I come from the time when a handshake meant friendship, and giving your word was an oath not taken lightly. You have all gotten yourselves so wrapped around the axle that you don't know if your asses are bored or punched anymore. STOP being part of the hive and buzzing over to every little thing, and you'll find that life is a simpler and more pleasant prospect.

as usual you people are the most fragile, easily 'triggered' ones in a conversation.

You won't 'end' anyone you keyboard warrior.

[Alvecia]

*sigh*

One says 'black lives matter,' another 'says all lives matter,' another says 'kill whitey...' Now yet another term is invented, this 'alt-right' BS, to further divide and segregate another group into a nice tidy little box for the shelf. This argument will never be peacefully resolved. I have a better idea....

Why don't you all just kill each other and get it over with? I am beginning to suspect that civil war is inevitable, so why prolong the agony and continue dragging more and more people into it? Neither side is going to give way, neither side is interested in "inclusiveness and peace".... BOTH are actively spoiling for a fight. Fine. Get it over with. Let's see which side is REALLY more motivated. "UHHH war is bad! We just want peaceful discourse and love for everyone!" Oh piss off.... no you don't. That argument becomes more and more illogical with every riot you stage. You want a fight in order to remain relevant, and to satisfy your own sense of belonging and to find some semblance of stability in an otherwise unstable and senseless world. Hell, I'm beginning to wonder if "The purge" should be a reality show rather than fiction. And before any of you social justice types or professionally offended idiots come slithering over to criticize me- no, I'm not a racist, I'm a Cynic and frankly I don't give a fuck what you think of me, so don't bother.

I have always believed in live and let live. I don't give a damn who or what you 'identify' as, what color you are, or what you stand for. If you are an asshole, I will tell you to your face. If you are friendly, I'll buy you a beer and have a pleasant chat. If you need help, I am the first to volunteer. If you are a threat, I will end you without batting an eye. I come from the time when a handshake meant friendship, and giving your word was an oath not taken lightly. You have all gotten yourselves so wrapped around the axle that you don't know if your asses are bored or punched anymore. STOP being part of the hive and buzzing over to every little thing, and you'll find that life is a simpler and more pleasant prospect.

as usual you people are the most fragile, easily 'triggered' ones in a conversation.

You won't 'end' anyone you keyboard warrior.

"Be nice to other people maybe?"
"I'm so Triggered!!!1!"

[Egohedonia]

They kinda do. Gotta get the workers from somewhere.

Spain has high unemployment rates last time i checked. Also Japan has Guest working programs. Not the same as Refugees.

No wonder they want immigrants if there are no jobs being given to native workers who know their worth and know how to bargain, if that's the case. See, foreigners cannot do that. They come from a culture and society where they've been considered next to nothing of value and don't know the language of their new home. This results in the lack of competition between native and foreign workers because foreigners unintentionally push prices way down, justifying the right's demands to let go of labor rights one by one including but not limited to lowering the minimum wage and doing away with it altogether, bringing in more and more austerity, doing away with public services...

Then the alt-right gets a basis for the "they took our jobs"-argument and get natives against the foreigners and not those who control the wages in the first place: the state and corporations, i.e. their employers. This pushes immigrants into exclusion and (especially in the case of Muslims) to the hands of ISIS, giving a basis to more and more of alt-right's arguments about Muslims and immigrants, getting people electing them to power, thus getting more publicity and power to push more immigrants into exclusion... it's a neverending cycle of shit. One seemingly valid argument, then they make more about all kinds of immigrants: they're terrorists, they're criminals, they're welfare queens.

In short, capitalists get the populists to distract the population while they do away with the rights of workers, both native and foreign through the state. Meanwhile, the populists pose as a new right-wing workers' movement. The only one who could stop this is the left, especially the more popular social democrats and democratic socialists, if only they would stop giving workers lip service and actually start hammering their rights through the state in the right's face, we wouldn't even have a problem here. It would also help to not treat the right with any undeserved tolerance or acceptance or sit on the fence between pro-worker and anti-worker.

[Tongau]

as usual you people are the most fragile, easily 'triggered' ones in a conversation.

You won't 'end' anyone you keyboard warrior.

"Be nice to other people maybe?"
"I'm so Triggered!!!1!"

It really is always the most 'heh I'm not PC at all' guys who are the first to start crying when anyone says anything they don't like. They just hide it in a bunch of stupid 'I hate EVERYONE (I just happen to hate certain minorities more)' and tough guy talk. Like, that post should be framed and used as an example every time this topic comes up because this is the alt-right in a nutshell, someone who thinks 'black lives matter' and 'all lives matter' are the exact same, there's people genuinely saying 'kill whitey' as a major position and talks a big game about how he'll 'end' someone he sees as a threat and how much more enlightened he is than the SJW masses.

[New Werpland]

"Cultural enrichment" is totally something multicultis refer to and isn't a xenophobic strawman argument. Suuuuure.

Bumping into people from different cultures on a daily to weekly basis is better than living in an austerity ridden country with an aging population.

Yeah boi.

How exactly is bumping into People from different cultures, or bumped by them, beign related to austerity?

If so then Greece with it's Millions of refugees would be a booming and fast growing economy.

No.

It is very much related to austerity. When you have an aging population (like Europe btw) increased immigration helps your country not get into debt as much when it tries to pay pensions.

[Catochristoferson]

The alt-right is a reaction to the SJW's plaguing politics recently.

Most of their 'movement' consists of reactionaries posting "death to diversity!!!!!!!!!!!!" on 4Chan.

[Egohedonia]

Sargon of Akkad is a white nationalist

Not anti-sjw, but source please.