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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:51 pm

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Allow me to open your eyes to reality.

In reality, everything the KKK did to black people for 200 years was illegal, but they did it with impunity(until very recently)

What Hitler did to the Jews and what the SS did was against German law. He did it with impunity.(until he lost the war)

Courts don't mean shit without enforcement. That's why we have cops etc.

So if the cops and the feds stand back and don't do anything, the courts are irrelevant. That's what i'm suggesting they do here. Step back, and send in a militia to take care of it.

If the militia is raised as an adjunct to the police, they are subject to laws that govern police. If they are raised as an adjunct to the national guard, then they are subject to the laws that govern the national guard. If they are raised as an adjunct to the army, they are subject to the laws that govern the army.

Courts can also enforce things without police assistance by working through civilian financial institutions. They can order the millions in payments paid from the bank. If the bank doesn't comply, the court can give a seizure order, and the plaintiff can actually go in - with his own muscle - and seize the bank's assets for failure to comply.

The law doesn't magically go away.


Hard to do that with the police intervening. They can't just go in with their own muscle, overpower local police, national guard units and security to enforce a court order.

In a fascist state, such a judge would be punished for treason.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:54 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Galloism wrote:If the militia is raised as an adjunct to the police, they are subject to laws that govern police. If they are raised as an adjunct to the national guard, then they are subject to the laws that govern the national guard. If they are raised as an adjunct to the army, they are subject to the laws that govern the army.

Courts can also enforce things without police assistance by working through civilian financial institutions. They can order the millions in payments paid from the bank. If the bank doesn't comply, the court can give a seizure order, and the plaintiff can actually go in - with his own muscle - and seize the bank's assets for failure to comply.

The law doesn't magically go away.


Hard to do that with the police intervening. They can't just go in with their own muscle, overpower local police, national guard units and security to enforce a court order.

In a fascist state, such a judge would be punished for treason.

So your advocating police go rogue against the law. You're proposing that the police will become the criminals.

This is stupid.

Edit: ironically, if police are now arresting people without probable cause and without a warrant, they are kidnapping. This means a person could act in self-defense and be completely justified legally.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:57 pm

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Hard to do that with the police intervening. They can't just go in with their own muscle, overpower local police, national guard units and security to enforce a court order.

In a fascist state, such a judge would be punished for treason.

So your advocating police go rogue against the law. You're proposing that the police will become the criminals.

This is stupid.


The constitution should be repealed, the State is the Law. the Dictator is the State. Those who oppose the will of the state will be removed.

I'm suggesting that the police should no longer be law enforcement, but charged with enforcing the Will of the Leader.

If they cannot enforce the will of the leader, they should stand back, turn around and let the militia handle the problem. If they resist, then they should be removed.

There is no right to protest without the permission of the Leader.

and in any case, those protesting at the moment need to be removed from the United States anyway.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:01 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Galloism wrote:So your advocating police go rogue against the law. You're proposing that the police will become the criminals.

This is stupid.


The constitution should be repealed, the State is the Law. the Dictator is the State. Those who oppose the will of the state will be removed.

I'm suggesting that the police should no longer be law enforcement, but charged with enforcing the Will of the Leader.

If they cannot enforce the will of the leader, they should stand back, turn around and let the militia handle the problem. If they resist, then they should be removed.

Your posts are so cute.

Obviously the rule of law was developed over the centuries for good reason. It's so people like you and me can live in relative security without being carted off to a work camp or killed because we carelessly remarked that beagles are ugly dogs and the local commandant didn't like it. The courts stand as a thin line between you and death for stupid reasons.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
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The constitution should be repealed, the State is the Law. the Dictator is the State. Those who oppose the will of the state will be removed.

I'm suggesting that the police should no longer be law enforcement, but charged with enforcing the Will of the Leader.

If they cannot enforce the will of the leader, they should stand back, turn around and let the militia handle the problem. If they resist, then they should be removed.

Your posts are so cute.

Obviously the rule of law was developed over the centuries for good reason. It's so people like you and me can live in relative security without being carted off to a work camp or killed because we carelessly remarked that beagles are ugly dogs and the local commandant didn't like it. The courts stand as a thin line between you and death for stupid reasons.


It would be my highest honour to die for the State. My hatred for my enemies overcome any fear for my own existence.

I'm a fascist, what response were you expecting in this regard?

These protests must be crushed.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:08 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Galloism wrote:Your posts are so cute.

Obviously the rule of law was developed over the centuries for good reason. It's so people like you and me can live in relative security without being carted off to a work camp or killed because we carelessly remarked that beagles are ugly dogs and the local commandant didn't like it. The courts stand as a thin line between you and death for stupid reasons.


It would be my highest honour to die for the State. My hatred for my enemies overcome any fear for my own existence.

I'm a fascist, what response were you expecting in this regard?

These protests must be crushed.

Bwahahaha.

Ok you got me. I thought you were legit.

Well played.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:19 pm

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Neutraligon wrote:Apparently there was a caller who called in saying that a man ran from the vehicle and that it was going to explode. Also, the police showed the video to the family first, and then released it to the public and says more will be released.

It's sad to think society mistrusts law enforcement to the point of this being a necessity.


Sad?

Mistrust for law enforcement keeps things in perspective.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:46 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Walgreens wrote:It's sad to think society mistrusts law enforcement to the point of this being a necessity.


Sad?

Mistrust for law enforcement keeps things in perspective.


Who gives a crap what these thugs think?

They are enemies of the State and we need to crush this so-called protest(read: riot.)

We should send in tanks.

Restore order and put them in their place.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:50 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Sad?

Mistrust for law enforcement keeps things in perspective.


Who gives a crap what these thugs think?

They are enemies of the State and we need to crush this so-called protest(read: riot.)

We should send in tanks.

Restore order and put them in their place.

Satire needs to be marginally believable for maximum effect.

Edit: Lol. Send in tanks. How very very... Chinese.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:56 pm

Galloism wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Who gives a crap what these thugs think?

They are enemies of the State and we need to crush this so-called protest(read: riot.)

We should send in tanks.

Restore order and put them in their place.

Satire needs to be marginally believable for maximum effect.

Edit: Lol. Send in tanks. How very very... Chinese.


Yep.

Like i said, the main thing is putting them in their place.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:59 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Galloism wrote:Satire needs to be marginally believable for maximum effect.

Edit: Lol. Send in tanks. How very very... Chinese.


Yep.

Like i said, the main thing is putting them in their place.


Authoritarianism ain't cool yo.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:59 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
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Sad?

Mistrust for law enforcement keeps things in perspective.


Who gives a crap what these thugs think?


That's what I think when people defend the police.

They are enemies of the State


Good.

and we need to crush this so-called protest(read: riot.)


Lol.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:01 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Yep.

Like i said, the main thing is putting them in their place.


Authoritarianism ain't cool yo.


It's very effective as a form of Government. How many dictators have to worry about political gridlock? If something needs done, it will be done. For example, when Zika became a problem for the white people of southern Florida and funding was needed to address the situation. Congress refused funding and now it's becoming a problem down there.

A dictator just does what is needed.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:04 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:A dictator just does what is needed.


At least dictators make good pinatas once their government fails.

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Postby Gauthier » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Who gives a crap what these thugs think?

They are enemies of the State and we need to crush this so-called protest(read: riot.)

We should send in tanks.

Restore order and put them in their place.

Satire needs to be marginally believable for maximum effect.

Edit: Lol. Send in tanks. How very very... Chinese.


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Postby Imperial Union of America » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:12 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Galloism wrote:Satire needs to be marginally believable for maximum effect.

Edit: Lol. Send in tanks. How very very... Chinese.


Rule of thumb, anyone who pushes for a batshit ideology likely believes they'll end up as part of the ruling elite and that the law won't apply to them.


Being a white guy, as long as i do what the dictator says, i should (hopefully) be okay. If not, i'll go down with many of my enemies. The dictator needs Agents to serve him, right? Sign me up.
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Postby Revanchism » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:16 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Rule of thumb, anyone who pushes for a batshit ideology likely believes they'll end up as part of the ruling elite and that the law won't apply to them.


Being a white guy, as long as i do what the dictator says, i should (hopefully) be okay. If not, i'll go down with many of my enemies. The dictator needs Agents to serve him, right? Sign me up.

You have an awfully rosy view of life in an authoritarian country.
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The New Sea Territory wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:A dictator just does what is needed.


At least dictators make good pinatas once their government fails.

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Postby Arumbia67 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:19 pm

If he was hit with the taser, why did the officer fire? Unless the victim was on meth or some other powerful drug, he wasn't getting up too easily.Coming from someone who's been tasered, that shit hurts. A lot.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:02 am

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G-Tech Corporation wrote:Whelp, looks like Charlotte is going on to a boil again. Someone has already been shot, good times.


They need to raise a militia to put down these protests. The black individual had a gun and he was justifiably shot. If we permit these thugs and hoodlums to protest everytime some thug is shot, where would we be? There is no public concern here, just a bunch of thugs and hoodlums looking for an excuse to go looting and burning.

I think we should simply crush these protests to send a message to them and their potential supporters. None of this cop attacking business.


Remember, only white people have the right to protest. *nodnod*
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:13 am

Vassenor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
They need to raise a militia to put down these protests. The black individual had a gun and he was justifiably shot. If we permit these thugs and hoodlums to protest everytime some thug is shot, where would we be? There is no public concern here, just a bunch of thugs and hoodlums looking for an excuse to go looting and burning.

I think we should simply crush these protests to send a message to them and their potential supporters. None of this cop attacking business.


Remember, only white people have the right to protest. *nodnod*


I'm just wondering; do you ever get sick of making sarcastic comments?

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:17 am

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Vassenor wrote:Remember, only white people have the right to protest. *nodnod*

I'm just wondering; do you ever get sick of making sarcastic comments?

This is NSG. Sarcasm is the life blood of NSG.
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FelrikTheDeleted wrote:I'm just wondering; do you ever get sick of making sarcastic comments?

This is NSG. Sarcasm is the life blood of NSG.


Unfortunately.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:18 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Remember, only white people have the right to protest. *nodnod*


I'm just wondering; do you ever get sick of making sarcastic comments?



What's wrong with trying to inject a bit of levity into the thread?
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
I'm just wondering; do you ever get sick of making sarcastic comments?



What's wrong with trying to inject a bit of levity into the thread?


Nothing, I was just wondering why you always seem to respond to things with sarcasm.
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