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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:04 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:I'm surprised there aren't black lives matter protests right now.


Where are the riots? This is a bummer


Is there some law requiring riots after a police shooting?

Or do you just assume there will be because it suits your narrative?
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:18 am

Vassenor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:I'm surprised there aren't black lives matter protests right now.


Where are the riots? This is a bummer


Is there some law requiring riots after a police shooting?

Or do you just assume there will be because it suits your narrative?


That and it's entertaining.

Black people get pissed off and burn down their own neighborhood.

Or they come to my town and we can have some real entertainment.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:20 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Is there some law requiring riots after a police shooting?

Or do you just assume there will be because it suits your narrative?


That and it's entertaining.

Black people get pissed off and burn down their own neighborhood.

Or they come to my town and we can have some real entertainment.


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Postby Imperial Union of America » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:21 am

Vassenor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
That and it's entertaining.

Black people get pissed off and burn down their own neighborhood.

Or they come to my town and we can have some real entertainment.


:eyebrow:


It's pretty boring in Oklahoma.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:22 am

Clearly they need to only riot over the really important things like white people do.

Like pumpkins.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:27 am

Vassenor wrote:Clearly they need to only riot over the really important things like white people do.

Like pumpkins.


I'm actually pretty bummed white people dont have more s stereotypes.
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Postby Cetacea » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:01 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Clearly they need to only riot over the really important things like white people do.

Like pumpkins.


I'm actually pretty bummed white people dont have more s stereotypes.


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Postby Herador » Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:38 am

Vassenor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
That and it's entertaining.

Black people get pissed off and burn down their own neighborhood.

Or they come to my town and we can have some real entertainment.


:eyebrow:

let me help: They want to murder black people for fun.

I want to say I'm shocked and disgusted, but honestly? Kinda just playing to type here.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:35 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:This is Oklahoma, i have every confidence that if it went to grand jury they would refuse to indict. He refused to show his hands.

Because "refusing to show one's hands" represents a clear and present lethal threat to police agents.
Are American cops THAT paranoid?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:42 am

Risottia wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:This is Oklahoma, i have every confidence that if it went to grand jury they would refuse to indict. He refused to show his hands.

Because "refusing to show one's hands" represents a clear and present lethal threat to police agents.
Are American cops THAT paranoid?


Pretty sure to some people "living while black" represents a clear and present legal threat to police agents.
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Postby Ungthjodherjarnir » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:01 am

The thing I hate about police shootings is that they don't start the race war.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:26 am

Ungthjodherjarnir wrote:The thing I hate about police shootings is that they don't start the race war.


Pretty sure not having a race war is a good thing.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:31 am

Ungthjodherjarnir wrote:The thing I hate about police shootings is that they don't start the race war.


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Postby Ungthjodherjarnir » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:38 am

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Ungthjodherjarnir wrote:The thing I hate about police shootings is that they don't start the race war.


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How is this flamebaiting?

I didn't say "All blacks should be lynched." or "All jews need to be gassed." I simply expressed my opinion. I understand there isn't a concept of free speech here, but I'm just not seeing the reasoning behind this.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:42 am

Ungthjodherjarnir wrote:
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How is this flamebaiting?

I didn't say "All blacks should be lynched." or "All jews need to be gassed." I simply expressed my opinion. I understand there isn't a concept of free speech here, but I'm just not seeing the reasoning behind this.


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Postby New Dukaine » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:23 am

What makes it worse is that the police officer screamed SHOTS FIRED into the radio like it was GTA.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:24 am

New Dukaine wrote:What makes it worse is that the police officer screamed SHOTS FIRED into the radio like it was GTA.

How else should she have indicated that shots had been fired?
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:39 am

Shooting an unarmed man unless he poses an immediate threat to the officer or a civilian is just unprofessional. If he was uncooperative, the cops could have tackled him manually, used batons, pepper spray or tasers if they felt he was too strong for them to handle safely, or at worst shot him in a leg. As I understand, the trigger-happy officers in question failed to even try anything of the above, making this a flagrant case of criminal misconduct.

I understand that the victim wasn't even actively resisting, but was merely being uncooperative, which doesn't even qualify as passive resistence. That makes this incident all the more a flagrant violation of basic police protocol, the offending officers displaying an alarming lack of professionalism as well as a callous disregard for human life. Whatever motivated them to shoot, these people quite evidently have no business wearing the badge.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:40 am

Imperium Sidhicum wrote:Shooting an unarmed man unless he poses an immediate threat to the officer or a civilian is just unprofessional. If he was uncooperative, the cops could have tackled him manually, used batons, pepper spray or tasers if they felt he was too strong for them to handle safely, or at worst shot him in a leg. As I understand, the trigger-happy officers in question failed to even try anything of the above, making this a flagrant case of criminal misconduct.

I understand that the victim wasn't even actively resisting, but was merely being uncooperative, which doesn't even qualify as passive resistence. That makes this incident all the more a flagrant violation of basic police protocol, the offending officers displaying an alarming lack of professionalism as well as a callous disregard for human life. Whatever motivated them to shoot, these people quite evidently have no business wearing the badge.


Shooting someone in the leg is still lethal force. And even a well trained marksman under controlled conditions can't pull off that shot reliably.
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:56 am

Vassenor wrote:
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:Shooting an unarmed man unless he poses an immediate threat to the officer or a civilian is just unprofessional. If he was uncooperative, the cops could have tackled him manually, used batons, pepper spray or tasers if they felt he was too strong for them to handle safely, or at worst shot him in a leg. As I understand, the trigger-happy officers in question failed to even try anything of the above, making this a flagrant case of criminal misconduct.

I understand that the victim wasn't even actively resisting, but was merely being uncooperative, which doesn't even qualify as passive resistence. That makes this incident all the more a flagrant violation of basic police protocol, the offending officers displaying an alarming lack of professionalism as well as a callous disregard for human life. Whatever motivated them to shoot, these people quite evidently have no business wearing the badge.


Shooting someone in the leg is still lethal force. And even a well trained marksman under controlled conditions can't pull off that shot reliably.


As I said before, that would have been the very last resort in any case, when all the other less-violent options were depleted.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:49 am

Risottia wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:This is Oklahoma, i have every confidence that if it went to grand jury they would refuse to indict. He refused to show his hands.

Because "refusing to show one's hands" represents a clear and present lethal threat to police agents.
Are American cops THAT paranoid?

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Postby -Harley-Quinn- » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:52 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:This is Oklahoma, i have every confidence that if it went to grand jury they would refuse to indict. He refused to show his hands.


Ya he was clearly planning ta fry 'em with his laser eyes that only work when his hands are down.
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Postby Herador » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:06 am

-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:This is Oklahoma, i have every confidence that if it went to grand jury they would refuse to indict. He refused to show his hands.


Ya he was clearly planning ta fry 'em with his laser eyes that only work when his hands are down.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:06 am

I do not condemn all police nor do I believe all police or bad but this nonsense needs to stop. It seems like every other week we hear a story about police brutality or someone getting shot who didnt need to be. Something needs to be done about this wheather its better training or courses in non violent confrontation but it seems like more and more police are abusing their power.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:11 am

San Lumen wrote:I do not condemn all police nor do I believe all police or bad but this nonsense needs to stop. It seems like every other week we hear a story about police brutality or someone getting shot who didnt need to be. Something needs to be done about this wheather its better training or courses in non violent confrontation but it seems like more and more police are abusing their power.

I think it says alot when we have to constantly say "not all police are bad".
Either way I'd still hesitate to call the police if I had a non-white friend within a 50-foot radius, the police might become suddenly terrified.

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