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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:34 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
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Did Ethnic cleansing stop being a crime against humanity while I wasn't looking?


No. But this isn't ethnic cleansing in the historically negative sense.


Were the Armenians not deported in 1915? Were the Jews not deported before the Final Solution?
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:36 am

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Imperial Union of America wrote:I don't want to kill them. Just deport them, i think our society would be better that way. Hard to riot over 'black lives' when there are no black people around to protest.


Did Ethnic cleansing stop being a crime against humanity while I wasn't looking?

They appointed me to the international Criminal Court and said mass deportation is allowed.
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:37 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:I don't want to kill them. Just deport them, i think our society would be better that way. Hard to riot over 'black lives' when there are no black people around to protest.

What possible justification could you have for deporting African-Americans to Africa? Culturally, they're no more African than the average European-American is European; indeed, African-Americans are probably LESS culturally African than they are culturally European. They wouldn't fit in at all.

Which raises an even bigger question: What are you going to do if the nations of Africa refuse to "take them back"?

Vassenor wrote:Did Ethnic cleansing stop being a crime against humanity while I wasn't looking?

It did once Donald Trump became an acceptable Presidential candidate and the alt-right got normalized.

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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:41 pm

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Imperial Union of America wrote:I don't want to kill them. Just deport them, i think our society would be better that way. Hard to riot over 'black lives' when there are no black people around to protest.

What possible justification could you have for deporting African-Americans to Africa? Culturally, they're no more African than the average European-American is European; indeed, African-Americans are probably LESS culturally African than they are culturally European. They wouldn't fit in at all.

Which raises an even bigger question: What are you going to do if the nations of Africa refuse to "take them back"?


Well, there are 30 million in this country. We can probably let them have their own country in Africa. We'll conquer Liberia again, and import all the Africans.

Africans in America are not culturally european. That's absurd, do you see what sort of things they are up to? the statistics?

culturally, european-americans have a lot in common with europeans. British culture, to be precise. very stark similarities.

In any case, how well they fit in is not my problem.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:48 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Alien Space Bats wrote:What possible justification could you have for deporting African-Americans to Africa? Culturally, they're no more African than the average European-American is European; indeed, African-Americans are probably LESS culturally African than they are culturally European. They wouldn't fit in at all.

Which raises an even bigger question: What are you going to do if the nations of Africa refuse to "take them back"?


Well, there are 30 million in this country. We can probably let them have their own country in Africa. We'll conquer Liberia again, and import all the Africans.

Africans in America are not culturally european. That's absurd, do you see what sort of things they are up to? the statistics?

culturally, european-americans have a lot in common with europeans. British culture, to be precise. very stark similarities.

In any case, how well they fit in is not my problem.

African-Americans and white Americans are not fundamentally culturally different. Both groups belong equally in America.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:51 pm

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Well, there are 30 million in this country. We can probably let them have their own country in Africa. We'll conquer Liberia again, and import all the Africans.

Africans in America are not culturally european. That's absurd, do you see what sort of things they are up to? the statistics?

culturally, european-americans have a lot in common with europeans. British culture, to be precise. very stark similarities.

In any case, how well they fit in is not my problem.

African-Americans and white Americans are not fundamentally culturally different. Both groups belong equally in America.


I disagree. Non-whites must be removed.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:04 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Geilinor wrote:African-Americans and white Americans are not fundamentally culturally different. Both groups belong equally in America.


I disagree. Non-whites must be removed.


For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:21 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
I disagree. Non-whites must be removed.


For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?


Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?

You are aware that whites and asians are better educated , higher earning, less prone to commit crimes than african americans? You do realize that vast sections of 'urban'/gangsta culture is degenerate? Have you ever heard african-american 'rap' music?

The bedrock of the United States was not founded by black people. It was founded by European whites, raised in the culture of the European race.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:23 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?


Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?

You are aware that whites and asians are better educated , higher earning, less prone to commit crimes than african americans? You do realize that vast sections of 'urban'/gangsta culture is degenerate? Have you ever heard african-american 'rap' music?

The bedrock of the United States was not founded by black people. It was founded by European whites, raised in the culture of the European race.

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Also nice job with the appeal to tradition, but this isn't the 1770s. It's [CURRENT YEAR], and you're very much on the wrong side of history.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:23 pm

So, this thread really isn't about an unarmed black man being shot by police, but about peddling edgy white nationalist bullshit.

Why didn't you just say that in the OP instead of hijacking your own thread?
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Also apparently Governor McCrory has personally embargoed the release of any footage of the Charlotte shooting.
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Postby Skyviolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:25 pm

This has to be put to a stop. I'm not in line with BLM 100% but this has to stop. There is an epidemic of police officers shooting unarmed black men, whereas they wear kids gloves for ARMED white men. If you can't tell the difference you are obviously blind to what African Americans have to face today.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:27 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?


Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?

Try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_United_States
The culture of the United States of America is primarily European, but is influenced by African, Native American, Asian, Polynesian, and Latin American cultures. It also has its own social and cultural characteristics, such as dialect, music, arts, social habits, cuisine, and folklore. The United States of America is an ethnically and racially diverse country as a result of large-scale migration from many countries throughout its history.[1]
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:28 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
I disagree. Non-whites must be removed.


For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?


Tbf, I get part of what IUA is saying, though he is busy saying it in the most scum-racist way possible. It's not his fault though; he probably hasn't just cognitively separated ethnicity and culture, since in minds of most racists the two are inextricably linked.

From an ethnic/racial standpoint, white and black Americans are identical- they have the same abilities, same capabilities, aside from a few genetic adaptations to resist diseases/etc.

Culturally, African-Americans are distinct from "white"/mainstream(?) American culture. Values are placed differently, cognitive schema are alternatively framed, social structures are slightly altered, etc.

Some of the values of African-American culture are less than desireable. The racist would say those undesireable elements come from the melanin content of a person's skin, but that's just silly talk. Many aspects of "American" culture need work, black, white, whichever you want to pick.

Do I agree with folks calling for the expulsion of American citizens based on their culture? Naw. I do understand their mindframe though.
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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:29 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:-snap-


I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Why should we care about anything our forefathers intended? The only thing we should look to them for is the legal basis they set for this country, not try and satisfy what our forefathers "intended"
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:30 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?

Try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_United_States
The culture of the United States of America is primarily European, but is influenced by African, Native American, Asian, Polynesian, and Latin American cultures. It also has its own social and cultural characteristics, such as dialect, music, arts, social habits, cuisine, and folklore. The United States of America is an ethnically and racially diverse country as a result of large-scale migration from many countries throughout its history.[1]



Sure. Because of these alien non-european groups.

But let's be clear -- White and black culture are separate and distinct. They are not the same.

Are there whites that listen to rap? Most definitely.

But do more blacks listen to rap than whites? Of course. because of their culture.

are Native Americans culturally homogenous with white americans and their culture non-existent simply because they are in the United States?

Of course not. that's absurd.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:33 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:



Sure. Because of these alien non-european groups.

But let's be clear -- White and black culture are separate and distinct. They are not the same.

Are there whites that listen to rap? Most definitely.

But do more blacks listen to rap than whites? Of course. because of their culture.

are Native Americans culturally homogenous with white americans and their culture non-existent simply because they are in the United States?

Of course not. that's absurd.


And you do understand African-American culture is not a function of race, yes? And that it is a reflection of history and society?
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:34 pm

Community Values wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:-snap-


I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Why should we care about anything our forefathers intended? The only thing we should look to them for is the legal basis they set for this country, not try and satisfy what our forefathers "intended"


Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.

I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.

this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.
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Postby Skyviolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:34 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?


Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?

You are aware that whites and asians are better educated , higher earning, less prone to commit crimes than african americans? You do realize that vast sections of 'urban'/gangsta culture is degenerate? Have you ever heard african-american 'rap' music?

The bedrock of the United States was not founded by black people. It was founded by European whites, raised in the culture of the European race.

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Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons



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Maybe African Americans are that way because we have treated them like shit for the majority of American history? Maybe because the majority of blacks WERE SLAVES and servants and not Government leaders because they were FORCED to live that way?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:36 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Community Values wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Why should we care about anything our forefathers intended? The only thing we should look to them for is the legal basis they set for this country, not try and satisfy what our forefathers "intended"


Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.

I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.

this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.


Preposterous. The United States were founded for all men, with concessions made to history because people can be horrible. Strength comes from diversity, though integrated diversity is necessary.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:38 pm

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Imperial Union of America wrote:snip


Maybe African Americans are that way because we have treated them like shit for the majority of American history? Maybe because the majority of blacks WERE SLAVES and servants and not Government leaders because they were FORCED to live that way?


I agree we treated minority groups in the United States very poorly in the past -- we should have never kidnapped them and forced them into servitude. But we treated Asians like shit, too. Ever heard of forced chinese labour? Japanese interment camps? and yet they are doing better than whites in this country. Don't use our past as an excuse for the failures of modern african-american culture, i think that's a mistake.

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.

I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.

this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.


Preposterous. The United States were founded for all men, with concessions made to history because people can be horrible. Strength comes from diversity, though integrated diversity is necessary.


Racism is natural in a society and a community. You will never have minority groups reach equality with the majority group. It only causes division and conflict. That is why, despite hundreds of years and 50 years of social engineering, our groups are still separate. Look at an ethnic map of the United States, hispanics and blacks don't want to live with whites and vis versa. We naturally separate.
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Postby The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:40 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.

I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.

this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.


Preposterous. The United States were founded for all men, with concessions made to history because people can be horrible. Strength comes from diversity, though integrated diversity is necessary.

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Postby Skyviolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:41 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Skyviolia wrote:
Maybe African Americans are that way because we have treated them like shit for the majority of American history? Maybe because the majority of blacks WERE SLAVES and servants and not Government leaders because they were FORCED to live that way?


I agree we treated minority groups in the United States very poorly in the past -- we should have never kidnapped them and forced them into servitude. But we treated Asians like shit, too. Ever heard of forced chinese labour? Japanese interment camps? and yet they are doing better than whites in this country. Don't use our past as an excuse for the failures of modern african-american culture, i think that's a mistake.

Is not. If we truly treated African Americans fairly to grow and foster and destroyed discrimination in the justice system and culture and devoted time and money to improve African American schools and neighborhoods, they would be more helpful members of society.

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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:41 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Community Values wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Why should we care about anything our forefathers intended? The only thing we should look to them for is the legal basis they set for this country, not try and satisfy what our forefathers "intended"


Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.

I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.

this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.


Iraq and Syria aren't multicultural, they're homogeneous. They are primarily Arab.

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