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by The New Sea Territory » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:33 am
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by The New Sea Territory » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:34 am
| Ⓐ ☭ | Anarchist Communist | Heideggerian Marxist | Vegetarian | Bisexual | Stirnerite | Slavic/Germanic Pagan | ᚨ ᛟ |
Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by Greed and Death » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:36 am
by Alien Space Bats » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:37 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:I don't want to kill them. Just deport them, i think our society would be better that way. Hard to riot over 'black lives' when there are no black people around to protest.
Vassenor wrote:Did Ethnic cleansing stop being a crime against humanity while I wasn't looking?
by Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:41 pm
Alien Space Bats wrote:Imperial Union of America wrote:I don't want to kill them. Just deport them, i think our society would be better that way. Hard to riot over 'black lives' when there are no black people around to protest.
What possible justification could you have for deporting African-Americans to Africa? Culturally, they're no more African than the average European-American is European; indeed, African-Americans are probably LESS culturally African than they are culturally European. They wouldn't fit in at all.
Which raises an even bigger question: What are you going to do if the nations of Africa refuse to "take them back"?
by Geilinor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:48 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:Alien Space Bats wrote:What possible justification could you have for deporting African-Americans to Africa? Culturally, they're no more African than the average European-American is European; indeed, African-Americans are probably LESS culturally African than they are culturally European. They wouldn't fit in at all.
Which raises an even bigger question: What are you going to do if the nations of Africa refuse to "take them back"?
Well, there are 30 million in this country. We can probably let them have their own country in Africa. We'll conquer Liberia again, and import all the Africans.
Africans in America are not culturally european. That's absurd, do you see what sort of things they are up to? the statistics?
culturally, european-americans have a lot in common with europeans. British culture, to be precise. very stark similarities.
In any case, how well they fit in is not my problem.
by Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:51 pm
Geilinor wrote:Imperial Union of America wrote:
Well, there are 30 million in this country. We can probably let them have their own country in Africa. We'll conquer Liberia again, and import all the Africans.
Africans in America are not culturally european. That's absurd, do you see what sort of things they are up to? the statistics?
culturally, european-americans have a lot in common with europeans. British culture, to be precise. very stark similarities.
In any case, how well they fit in is not my problem.
African-Americans and white Americans are not fundamentally culturally different. Both groups belong equally in America.
by Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:04 pm
by Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:21 pm
Article I, Section. 2
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” -- Abraham Lincoln
by Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:23 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:Vassenor wrote:
For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?
Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?
You are aware that whites and asians are better educated , higher earning, less prone to commit crimes than african americans? You do realize that vast sections of 'urban'/gangsta culture is degenerate? Have you ever heard african-american 'rap' music?
The bedrock of the United States was not founded by black people. It was founded by European whites, raised in the culture of the European race.
by Galloism » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:23 pm
by Vassenor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:25 pm
by Skyviolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:25 pm
by Geilinor » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:27 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:Vassenor wrote:
For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?
Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?
The culture of the United States of America is primarily European, but is influenced by African, Native American, Asian, Polynesian, and Latin American cultures. It also has its own social and cultural characteristics, such as dialect, music, arts, social habits, cuisine, and folklore. The United States of America is an ethnically and racially diverse country as a result of large-scale migration from many countries throughout its history.[1]
by G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:28 pm
by Community Values » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:29 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:-snap-
by Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:30 pm
Geilinor wrote:Imperial Union of America wrote:
Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?
Try again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_the_United_StatesThe culture of the United States of America is primarily European, but is influenced by African, Native American, Asian, Polynesian, and Latin American cultures. It also has its own social and cultural characteristics, such as dialect, music, arts, social habits, cuisine, and folklore. The United States of America is an ethnically and racially diverse country as a result of large-scale migration from many countries throughout its history.[1]
by G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:33 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Sure. Because of these alien non-european groups.
But let's be clear -- White and black culture are separate and distinct. They are not the same.
Are there whites that listen to rap? Most definitely.
But do more blacks listen to rap than whites? Of course. because of their culture.
are Native Americans culturally homogenous with white americans and their culture non-existent simply because they are in the United States?
Of course not. that's absurd.
by Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:34 pm
Community Values wrote:Imperial Union of America wrote:-snap-
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Why should we care about anything our forefathers intended? The only thing we should look to them for is the legal basis they set for this country, not try and satisfy what our forefathers "intended"
by Skyviolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:34 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:Vassenor wrote:
For what reason given that the two groups are culturally homogeneous?
Are you suggesting that African American culture is the same as European American culture?
You are aware that whites and asians are better educated , higher earning, less prone to commit crimes than african americans? You do realize that vast sections of 'urban'/gangsta culture is degenerate? Have you ever heard african-american 'rap' music?
The bedrock of the United States was not founded by black people. It was founded by European whites, raised in the culture of the European race.Article I, Section. 2
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” -- Abraham Lincoln
by G-Tech Corporation » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:36 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:Community Values wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Why should we care about anything our forefathers intended? The only thing we should look to them for is the legal basis they set for this country, not try and satisfy what our forefathers "intended"
Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.
I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.
this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.
by Imperial Union of America » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:38 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Imperial Union of America wrote:
Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.
I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.
this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.
Preposterous. The United States were founded for all men, with concessions made to history because people can be horrible. Strength comes from diversity, though integrated diversity is necessary.
by The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:40 pm
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Imperial Union of America wrote:
Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.
I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.
this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.
Preposterous. The United States were founded for all men, with concessions made to history because people can be horrible. Strength comes from diversity, though integrated diversity is necessary.
Tsaraine wrote:Nazis aren't known for their smarts. You don't adhere to an ideology that got flattened under a T-34 in 1945 if you're full of sparks and opportunities in life.
Caelestiam wrote:...wait,
Are we seriously in a dick measuring contest over who has the right to declare law by virtue of the most innocent dead?
Sounds horrible and insensitive.
Proceed.
by Skyviolia » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:41 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:Skyviolia wrote:
Maybe African Americans are that way because we have treated them like shit for the majority of American history? Maybe because the majority of blacks WERE SLAVES and servants and not Government leaders because they were FORCED to live that way?
I agree we treated minority groups in the United States very poorly in the past -- we should have never kidnapped them and forced them into servitude. But we treated Asians like shit, too. Ever heard of forced chinese labour? Japanese interment camps? and yet they are doing better than whites in this country. Don't use our past as an excuse for the failures of modern african-american culture, i think that's a mistake.
by Community Values » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:41 pm
Imperial Union of America wrote:Community Values wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Why should we care about anything our forefathers intended? The only thing we should look to them for is the legal basis they set for this country, not try and satisfy what our forefathers "intended"
Because a homogenous country is stronger. Because white American culture and Asian American cultures produce better outcomes in all areas.
I have high respect for Asian culture, but regardless we must all have our own nations. America was founded by Europeans, for Europeans. That was very clear from the beginning until very recently.
this idea of America as a 'multi-cultural', 'multi-ethnic' society is a very new concept, and a very dangerous one, as you can see by these riots and Iraq/Syria and other multi ethnic and multi cultural societies with such problems.
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