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Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:48 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:Small c-conservative maybe.

The way this was typed either looks like you were stuttering or calling me a small c - conservative.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:49 pm**

Grand Britannia wrote:
-Harley-Quinn- wrote:

these memes are really stale pls no

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:49 pm**

Nusaresa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Small c-conservative maybe.

The way this was typed either looks like you were stuttering or calling me a small c - conservative.

He's clearly nervous about insulting your manhood. FIGHT 'IM!

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:49 pm**

Nusaresa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Small c-conservative maybe.

The way this was typed either looks like you were stuttering or calling me a small c - conservative.

Woops, wrong hyphen placement.

Small-c conservative.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:50 pm**

Nusaresa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Small c-conservative maybe.

The way this was typed either looks like you were stuttering or calling me a small c - conservative.

This is I believe.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:55 pm**

Ok so the ShitMemes end here... gonna draw a line... ye

Okay so different topic entirely although the thing where I said 'what am I ideologically' applies...

So it appears the general consensus of this thread is that the establishment is kinda out of whack now, and given the political climate throughout the west, people are obviously seeking for alternatives. Now among these alternatives there lies a rather problematic method which uses scapegoats (yes we've discussed them before let's talk about it again) to unite the 'disenfranchised majority' instead of laying down a framework to remedy the situation at hand. Do you believe that the so called anti-establishment are simply too short sighted with their scapegoats? Or could it very well be that the anti-establishment only uses such rhetoric to blind the general population to more severe problems (unemployment, a deteriorating economy, etc) at hand? Or am I viewing this from the wrong perspective altogether?

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:58 pm**

-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:The way this was typed either looks like you were stuttering or calling me a small c - conservative.

He's clearly nervous about insulting your manhood. FIGHT 'IM!

I'm a very nice person though.

The East Marches wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:The way this was typed either looks like you were stuttering or calling me a small c - conservative.

This is I believe.

Napkiraly wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:The way this was typed either looks like you were stuttering or calling me a small c - conservative.

Woops, wrong hyphen placement.

Small-c conservative.

Ah. The wiki doesn't seem to have much info on the matter. All it says is "...anyone who believes in the philosophy of conservatism but does not necessarily identify with an official Conservative Party" which seems to be pretty vague.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:05 pm**

I SHALL DEFY YOUR POLITICAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:06 pm**

United Marxist Nations wrote:I SHALL DEFY YOUR POLITICAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

But we got one for ya. 'Sexmunist'

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:06 pm**

-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I SHALL DEFY YOUR POLITICAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

But we got one for ya. 'Sexmunist'

>having to invent political classifications
Doesn't count; next.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:08 pm**

United Marxist Nations wrote:I SHALL DEFY YOUR POLITICAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

Contrarian.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:09 pm**

United Marxist Nations wrote:
-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
But we got one for ya. 'Sexmunist'

>having to invent political classifications
Doesn't count; next.

I mean, every political classification was kinda invented at some point in history, so by your logic there are no classifications.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:14 pm**

Nusaresa wrote:Also, since this seems to be thing, what do y'all classify me as?

Radical Centrist Pragmatic.

Too liberal for me to agree with. But too awesome for me not to like.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:16 pm**

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Also, since this seems to be thing, what do y'all classify me as?

Radical Centrist Pragmatic.

Too liberal for me to agree with. But too awesome for me not to like.

Awww thank you Jochi-chan <3

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:16 pm**

United Marxist Nations wrote:I SHALL DEFY YOUR POLITICAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

Borderline Third Position Christian Socialist.

Eyyy

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:17 pm**

-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I SHALL DEFY YOUR POLITICAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

But we got one for ya. 'Sexmunist'

Every worker gets his share?

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:18 pm**

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I SHALL DEFY YOUR POLITICAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

Third Position Christian Socialist.

Eyyy

Third position and socialist do not seem to be compatible, unless you like, do some kind of mental gymnastics which I by the way suck at.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:18 pm**

Nusaresa wrote:Ok so the ShitMemes end here... gonna draw a line... ye

Okay so different topic entirely although the thing where I said 'what am I ideologically' applies...

So it appears the general consensus of this thread is that the establishment is kinda out of whack now, and given the political climate throughout the west, people are obviously seeking for alternatives. Now among these alternatives there lies a rather problematic method which uses scapegoats (yes we've discussed them before let's talk about it again) to unite the 'disenfranchised majority' instead of laying down a framework to remedy the situation at hand. Do you believe that the so called anti-establishment are simply too short sighted with their scapegoats? Or could it very well be that the anti-establishment only uses such rhetoric to blind the general population to more severe problems (unemployment, a deteriorating economy, etc) at hand? Or am I viewing this from the wrong perspective altogether?

The anti-establishment is merely a precursor to what I think it is the big show. I believe it is a reaction to the current situation. You can't classify it as a single ideology or goal. It's just a bag of different concerns. They all agree in large part with our current Western world but want to change certain things. My own opinion it is the marginalization of what would normally be called blue collar by such types as resident liberal Mr.Nariterrr. In Europe, this has been going on for awhile but the disease has spread. As a result, they feel they aren't being listened to. So they will turn to whoever is listening or will champion them. When both mainstream parties refuse to do so, when the left is made up of pseudo-intellectuals with no "real" solution, then it is only one option left.

Honorable mention to Bakery Hill though. If more on the left were like him, they might also be a credible alternative not just from the right wing populists.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:18 pm**

Neanderthaland wrote:
-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
But we got one for ya. 'Sexmunist'

Every worker gets his share?

The man with the wife ration card fucks. The man without the wife ration card follows the man with the wife ration card so that when the man with the wife ration card dies, he can pick up the wife ration card, and fuck.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:22 pm**

Nusaresa wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Radical Centrist Pragmatic.

Too liberal for me to agree with. But too awesome for me not to like.

Awww thank you Jochi-chan <3

No problem bro.

Nusaresa wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Third Position Christian Socialist.

Eyyy

Third position and socialist do not seem to be compatible, unless you like, do some kind of mental gymnastics which I by the way suck at.

Third Positionism is pretty broad. But UMN certainly isn't an anti Marxist like Third Position basically always is.

But he still sympathizes with Tsarism/Anti Bolsheviks.

Ach.

Borderline Third Position fits better.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:24 pm**

Anyone else find the neo-pagan right-wingers annoying?

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:26 pm**

Dagashi Shojo wrote:Anyone else find the neo-pagan right-wingers annoying?

I find most neo-pagans annoying. Though I do like the reconstructionists. They do very interesting work.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:26 pm**

Nusaresa wrote:Okay so different topic entirely although the thing where I said 'what am I ideologically' applies...

So it appears the general consensus of this thread is that the establishment is kinda out of whack now, and given the political climate throughout the west, people are obviously seeking for alternatives. Now among these alternatives there lies a rather problematic method which uses scapegoats (yes we've discussed them before let's talk about it again) to unite the 'disenfranchised majority' instead of laying down a framework to remedy the situation at hand. Do you believe that the so called anti-establishment are simply too short sighted with their scapegoats? Or could it very well be that the anti-establishment only uses such rhetoric to blind the general population to more severe problems (unemployment, a deteriorating economy, etc) at hand? Or am I viewing this from the wrong perspective altogether?

I believe ultimative the Populists are a - very late - reaction to the increasing decay of the post-Cold-War/WW2 Order which they attempt to go back to in a very weird fashion. Thats why Marie LePen wants to reintroduce the Franc, why Farange wanted to Brexit and why the AfD has some backwards tendences of its own and habours many disgruntled former CDU Members.

Sometimes theres the Idea in the Room that a mere change of the Form of Government or the Regime so to speak could and would change everything over night. The political sphere doesnt exists in a Vacuum but is bound to it's underlaying Society, Nation and State of which it is a inherent part of. The current Situation took about 15 Years to evolve and come to the point where it currently is. Over this we tend to forget that the post-War Order itself only lasted 40-50 Years.

A simply change of Government cannot possibly "fix" those issues or bring a remedy of them but by a wise Administration do it's best to manage the existing Situation and do what is needed to be done.

The more severe problems are harder to explain (which alone makes them unusable for populism) and possibly harder to solve as they're ultimatively rooted in deep, structural issues present in western Societies. This goes from the Economy, Politics deep into the broader cultural sphere of western Civilization.

There more to come.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:27 pm**

-Harley-Quinn- wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Every worker gets his share?

The man with the wife ration card fucks. The man without the wife ration card follows the man with the wife ration card so that when the man with the wife ration card dies, he can pick up the wife ration card, and fuck.

Posted: **Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:28 pm**

Dagashi Shojo wrote:Anyone else find the neo-pagan right-wingers annoying?

I admire them to some extent for being committed to reconstruction and preservation of heritage.

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