Should We Really Encourage Everyone To Vote?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

You mean 2016? Where liberalism and absolute submission to the state is demanded? Where daring to challenge the liberal status quo will ostracize you from your peers?

Quite the opposite. We believe submission to the government is wrong. We are against government reaching into social issues. That's why we support LGBT rights, choice, etc. Its republicans who believe the government should meddle with a woman's vagina.

Your going to silence the right of people to vote because they don't agree with you. Are you triggered? Do you need a safe space?

No, I just think young people, who are largely degenerate, do not have enough experience or knowledge to be entrusted with electing a leader.

Really? Should we ban old people from voting?[/quote]

I feel like I have to Mention something that the younger generation tried to get the government to do that was equally as stupid, but for now I'll let it go....

The Old people shouldn't get to vote finasco, that was a horrid anti democratic nightmare if ever I've seen one.

[Valaran]

degeneracy?

lol

o you do not believe that degeneracy exists?

I suspect we differ on what to classify as degeneracy.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

o you do not believe that degeneracy exists?

I suspect we differ on what to classify as degeneracy.

I suspect no one is able to tell what is considered degenerate anymore, considering its thrown around so much, it's like racism and sexism they've been flung around so much that anything could be considered racism and sexism.

[Alvecia]

I suspect we differ on what to classify as degeneracy.

I suspect no one is able to tell what is considered degenerate anymore, considering its thrown around so much, it's like racism and sexism they've been flung around so much that anything could be considered racism and sexism.

In this context it's pretty much dependant on your personal morality, so degeneracy would vary from person to person.

[Valaran]

I suspect we differ on what to classify as degeneracy.

I suspect no one is able to tell what is considered degenerate anymore, considering its thrown around so much, it's like racism and sexism they've been flung around so much that anything could be considered racism and sexism.

Oh not to fear, my classifications of degeneracy are derived from the font of virtues that is Roman literature. As such, there is nothing more heinous as the degeneracy stemming from filthy hellenism. I shall remain ever vigilant against such influence.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

I suspect no one is able to tell what is considered degenerate anymore, considering its thrown around so much, it's like racism and sexism they've been flung around so much that anything could be considered racism and sexism.

In this context it's pretty much dependant on your personal morality, so degeneracy would vary from person to person.

Eureka, you've hit the nail on the head.

[The balkens]

I suspect no one is able to tell what is considered degenerate anymore, considering its thrown around so much, it's like racism and sexism they've been flung around so much that anything could be considered racism and sexism.

In this context it's pretty much dependant on your personal morality, so degeneracy would vary from person to person.

I mean, i think we all agree on what to call Chris Chan.....right?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

I suspect no one is able to tell what is considered degenerate anymore, considering its thrown around so much, it's like racism and sexism they've been flung around so much that anything could be considered racism and sexism.

Oh not to fear, my classifications of degeneracy are derived from the font of virtues that is Roman literature. As such, there is nothing more heinous as the degeneracy stemming from filthy hellenism. I shall remain ever vigilant against such influence.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

In this context it's pretty much dependant on your personal morality, so degeneracy would vary from person to person.

I mean, i think we all agree on what to call Chris Chan.....right?

Yes, I think as adults or children.... Some people on this website are children I presume, we can all agree that he/she is a degenerate.

[Valaran]

Mirth clearly marks the insidious presence of the Athenian cult of epicureanism. Decadent hellene spotted!

*prepares to salt fields*

[The balkens]

Mirth clearly marks the insidious presence of the Athenian cult of epicureanism. Decadent hellene spotted!

*prepares to salt fields*

You pleb, thats for Carthage!

[Autonomous Titoists]

I suspect no one is able to tell what is considered degenerate anymore, considering its thrown around so much, it's like racism and sexism they've been flung around so much that anything could be considered racism and sexism.

In this context it's pretty much dependant on your personal morality, so degeneracy would vary from person to person.

lol morality, well spooked

[Herskerstad]

Before we begin, I need to make one thing absolutely clear: I am not in favor of setting up any obstacles between the people and the voting booth. I believe in early voting and absentee voting, and am firmly against the recent spate of closures of voting locations in manys states.

Having said that, I'm skeptical of most get out the vote efforts. Every election, we're hit with public service ads on television and online encouraging all of us to do our civic duty and vote. I personally don't see the point. Yes, in America and elsewhere, it's a constitutional right. Yes, people fought, bled, and died for that right. However--and this is a big however--I really don't think that those who are politically apathetic should vote. If someone can't be bothered to keep up with world events, or thinks that all politicians are the same, or has no understanding of economics whatsoever, then I don't want that person within a mile of a voting booth. We have enough of an issue with the uninformed, the simplistic, the narrow-minded, and the outright bigoted swaying votes in the United States. Why would we add to that by encouraging a bunch of people who don't actually believe in the process to take part in it? To put it crudely, why would we encourage these dipshits to vote?

Another disclaimer: I am not saying that everybody who thinks that the parties have much in common is a dipshit. However, I've known plenty of dipshits who think this for the most superficial and shallow of reasons.

Thoughts?

Are you arguing for selective vote encouragement? As in, only encourage voting among some lesser educated demographics? Because you will find both Republican and Democrat-leaning demographics that. Or a blanket no special focus on anyone for the vote policy?

[Greed and Death]

Those who disagree with me should not vote.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I think we should.

Now, I do not mean GOTV efforts. I do mean, however, education since young, proper education, about how our government works.

Nowadays, there's very few people who actually understand at a basic level how government works, and what they are voting for. This, I believe, is what causes apathy or misinformation that a vote does not matter.

Oh, I'm good with an informed electorate. No problem with that at all. I was specifically referring to GOTV efforts.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

1. I hope not.

2. No, but that's a different issue entirely.

No, it's entirely related. If it isn't really a worse decision than the decisions made by those who are already voting, then it discredits the "apathetic vote is worse" talking point.

It's a subject that needs to be addressed in a different manner, though.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

While I agree to an extreme extent when it comes to your first statement, the second one is absolutely absurd, I am almost certain that you are missing the studies to declare the younger generation degenerate, also I wasn't aware that you know what kind of knowledge these kids possesses.

The majority of young people support either Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton. They support degenerate ideas like gay rights, "transexual" bathroom rights, and cultural diversity.

degeneracy?

lol

o you do not believe that degeneracy exists?

First, you just described everything that I like about the youth vote.

Second, degeneracy is just a fancy term for "I think that it's icky, so other people shouldn't do it".

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Before we begin, I need to make one thing absolutely clear: I am not in favor of setting up any obstacles between the people and the voting booth. I believe in early voting and absentee voting, and am firmly against the recent spate of closures of voting locations in manys states.

Having said that, I'm skeptical of most get out the vote efforts. Every election, we're hit with public service ads on television and online encouraging all of us to do our civic duty and vote. I personally don't see the point. Yes, in America and elsewhere, it's a constitutional right. Yes, people fought, bled, and died for that right. However--and this is a big however--I really don't think that those who are politically apathetic should vote. If someone can't be bothered to keep up with world events, or thinks that all politicians are the same, or has no understanding of economics whatsoever, then I don't want that person within a mile of a voting booth. We have enough of an issue with the uninformed, the simplistic, the narrow-minded, and the outright bigoted swaying votes in the United States. Why would we add to that by encouraging a bunch of people who don't actually believe in the process to take part in it? To put it crudely, why would we encourage these dipshits to vote?

Another disclaimer: I am not saying that everybody who thinks that the parties have much in common is a dipshit. However, I've known plenty of dipshits who think this for the most superficial and shallow of reasons.

Thoughts?

Are you arguing for selective vote encouragement? As in, only encourage voting among some lesser educated demographics? Because you will find both Republican and Democrat-leaning demographics that. Or a blanket no special focus on anyone for the vote policy?

To put it in basic terms, I don't have an issue with either party encouraging specific demographics to vote, as that's essential strategy. I do have an issue with blanket "No matter who you're voting for, make sure to vote!" campaigns like "Rock The Vote", since they encourage people to walk into the booth and vote, but don't encourage them to become informed about the issues or candidates.

[Novorobo]

No, it's entirely related. If it isn't really a worse decision than the decisions made by those who are already voting, then it discredits the "apathetic vote is worse" talking point.

It's a subject that needs to be addressed in a different manner, though.

How else? And until that "other manner" is implemented, how should we address this?

[Pirelin]

o you do not believe that degeneracy exists?

I suspect we differ on what to classify as degeneracy.

Degeneracy is anything that goes against the white race and Western culture. Things like interracial marriage, homosexuality, transgenders, Marxism, feminism, and Socialism are all degeneracy. There are countless more examples that I can name, if you wish.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It's a subject that needs to be addressed in a different manner, though.

How else? And until that "other manner" is implemented, how should we address this?

I have no idea, and it's not a subject that's germane to this thread except tangentially.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I suspect we differ on what to classify as degeneracy.

Degeneracy is anything that goes against the white race and Western culture. Things like interracial marriage, homosexuality, transgenders, Marxism, feminism, and Socialism are all degeneracy. There are countless more examples that I can name, if you wish.

Oh, awesome. In that case, anything that I'm not actually participating in in terms of degeneracy is something that I wholly support the rights of others to be involved in.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Degeneracy is anything that goes against the white race and Western culture. Things like interracial marriage, homosexuality, transgenders, Marxism, feminism, and Socialism are all degeneracy. There are countless more examples that I can name, if you wish.

Oh, awesome. In that case, anything that I'm not actually participating in in terms of degeneracy is something that I wholly support the rights of others to be involved in.

I knew Pirelin was horrid in the sense of what he supports, but I had no idea it was this misguided, it's obvious that western society is a european culture at its founding but its a culture that prides itself on being a melting pot, has he not heard of the three principles of the west; Freedom Of Religion, Freedom Of Speech (Something were lacking in Australia) and Freedom Of Expression.

[Valaran]

I suspect we differ on what to classify as degeneracy.

Degeneracy is anything that goes against the white race and Western culture. Things like interracial marriage, homosexuality, transgenders, Marxism, feminism, and Socialism are all degeneracy. There are countless more examples that I can name, if you wish.

I feel as if you're misappropriating the actual definition of degeneracy here.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Degeneracy is anything that goes against the white race and Western culture. Things like interracial marriage, homosexuality, transgenders, Marxism, feminism, and Socialism are all degeneracy. There are countless more examples that I can name, if you wish.

I feel as if you're misappropriating the actual definition of degeneracy here.

I don't know. The word as it's generally used nowadays has a Nazi-ish whiff to it.