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by Ngelmish » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:39 pm
by USS Monitor » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:43 pm
Novus America wrote:USS Monitor wrote:
And ballot questions. I like ballot questions.
True, those too. Lots of county ballot questions will be on my ballot. Plus many states and localities will have interesting questions. It is nice to pick my own options rather than some party hack I disagree with half of the time. I disagree with all parties on certain things. I like to make my own decisions.
by Novus America » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:44 pm
USS Monitor wrote:Novus America wrote:
True, those too. Lots of county ballot questions will be on my ballot. Plus many states and localities will have interesting questions. It is nice to pick my own options rather than some party hack I disagree with half of the time. I disagree with all parties on certain things. I like to make my own decisions.
We've had ones about dog racing, assisted suicide, decriminalizing marijuana, and a proposal to abolish state income tax. I don't know yet what issues we are going to get this year.
by USS Monitor » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:57 pm
Novus America wrote:USS Monitor wrote:
We've had ones about dog racing, assisted suicide, decriminalizing marijuana, and a proposal to abolish state income tax. I don't know yet what issues we are going to get this year.
You might be able to get a copy of the ballot online, with the questions for this year on it.
by Novus America » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:09 pm
by USS Monitor » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:15 pm
Skyviolia wrote:We should encourage liberals to vote, we should also outrage more right wingers so they don't have the time to stop complaining and get out an vote.
by Omega America II » Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:40 pm
by Betoni » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:14 pm
by The Serbian Empire » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:29 pm
Valonde wrote:Yes, I think we should.
I think the problem lies more with the fact far too many people don't understand what voting actually is. What I mean is, so many people say 'my vote won't count'. To these people one little vote is not a game changer. But in reality one vote can actually change the course of history. What we need to do is educate.
Of course, if someone is going to vote whoever just to get it over with, then that person should not be voting.
by Community Values » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:47 pm
by Krasny-Volny » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:13 pm
by Lalaki » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:19 pm
by Neo Bavaria » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:22 pm
by Lalaki » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:32 pm
by Novus America » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:51 pm
Lalaki wrote:USS Monitor wrote:
And ballot questions. I like ballot questions.
Ballot questions can have far more direct impact than presidential races.
In Nevada, we're going to be voting on decriminalizing marijuana, universal background checks for guns, abolishing sales/use taxes on certain medical devices, and dismantling the monopoly that a state energy provider has built up for over 1.3 million residents. At the county level, we'll be voting on a sales tax increase to fund the construction of new schools and to repair existing ones (I actually work on the Yes campaign for this initiative).
I'm far more interested to discuss these issues and our city council/state legislature/school board candidates than the heartbreaking Clinton vs. Trump fiasco.
by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:12 pm
Lalaki wrote:Yes, people should be encouraged to vote.
Opinions count. The more opinions we have, the more democratic a society we form. The less opinions are heard, the less democratic society we cultivate. This is important.
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:36 pm
by Novorobo » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:56 pm
Socialist Nordia wrote:Oh shit, let's hope we don't have to take in any /pol/ refugees.
by Valystria » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:00 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:01 pm
by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:03 pm
Novorobo wrote:Even if you grant the premise that it's about apathy, I think what this ultimately boils down to is whether or not the vote of those currently apathetic is necessarily worse than everyone else's, which boils down to at least two further questions:
1. Will those presently apathetic continue to be if encouraged to make a decision on this matter?
2. If encouraged to make a decision on this matter, will that decision necessarily be worse than one motivated by being steeped in an ideological echo chamber?
by Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:52 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by USS Monitor » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:58 pm
Community Values wrote:People who know nothing about Trump but will still vote for him will most likely vote for him even if they were the most in touch with current events. Same for Hillary, and Johnson, and Stein. I don't believe being informed or not makes that much of a difference (unless you legitimately have no knowledge of the candidates, in which you won't vote anyways). It is and will always be about belief, not information.
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