Arkolon wrote:when I make a claim, that women don't enjoy being catcalled, I'm not saying something completely ridiculous
It's not completely ridiculous, although it is still wrong. Some women enjoy being catcalled and some don't. And some enjoy it some of the time (even Jessica Valenti said she missed the sexual validation).
However, whether or not women enjoy catcalling has very little to do with rape culture. I am used to people making arguments that actually apply to the topic at hand, so this may be the source of our disconnect.
'Rape culture' in feminism means that men are taught to not ask for consent and protect men who rape women. Like most feminism, there is a little bit of truth to this, but it is exaggerated and unnecessarily gendered so much, that it becomes misandry. Now, you are supposed to actually address this topic in a thread about 'rape culture.' So of course I will assume that your statements are actually meant to apply to the topic at hand. However, perhaps it would be wiser for me to assume that I'm dealing with a completely irrational person.
Did I say that I was referring to your example? I took them out of the post deliberately to show how I'm making a separate point.
You are being a dishonest debater when you reply to me, but refuse to actually engage my arguments.
You argued that catcallers want to rape women. When asked for proof, you told us that their catcalling proves it. I asked you to point out where in the examples I gave, the catcaller explains his desire to rape. Your response: completely ignore my examples and come up with one specific example that was tailored to support your point. However, you failed to show that you tailored example is even remotely typical for catcallers. Again, I've never seen women give an example of catcalling that was similar to your example.
So IMO, all you've shown so far is that when challenged, you make something up to 'prove' your point.
Do you want to answer the question now?
You continuously refuse to answer my questions, so your demand is rather hypocritical.
Then there's your answer. Your original question was whether she wanted to rape you, and if she didn't say so, how could I know?
And the same is true for the catcallers who don't say "I want to rape you." Again, your argument only works if you have proof that male catcallers commonly tell women that they want to rape them.
This is so absurd that I've not even seen the most radical radfem argue such a thing (this is why I think that you are a troll, you are beyond radical).
