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What if: Your country becomes a Leninist/Maoist country?

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How would you react to the referendum?

I would be really happy/help the new status quo
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15%
I would resume life as usual
68
16%
Peacefully resist
50
12%
Flee/ask another country for invasion
82
19%
Assassinate leaders, blow up buildings, kill military leaders until the state is dismantled.
140
33%
Other
23
5%
 
Total votes : 429

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:31 am

Though I would support said regime if I got some power out of it. Like being in charge of an entire section of the nation or being a member of the politburo
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Postby Aterria » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:33 am

I'd also try advancing my political career. Higher position is good after all, so I can actually do something.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:33 am

Thermodolia wrote:Though I would support said regime if I got some power out of it. Like being in charge of an entire section of the nation or being a member of the politburo

What if you got increased quality of life out of it?
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Postby Soyuzistan » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:34 am

Soyuzistan already is*.


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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:35 am

Considering that Leninism in Bulgaria was far more successful than the absolute catastrophe we have now, I might as well help them consolidate.

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Postby Oesterrepublik » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:36 am

I'd jump for joy if it was Leninist. If it were Maoist, i'd hope to not be killed.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:37 am

*kronstadt rebellion intensifies*

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Postby Aterria » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:37 am

Oesterrepublik wrote:I'd jump for joy if it was Leninist. If it were Maoist, i'd hope to not be killed.

Hugs comrade.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:40 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Though I would support said regime if I got some power out of it. Like being in charge of an entire section of the nation or being a member of the politburo

What if you got increased quality of life out of it?

Not really going for that, would like power more
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Postby Oesterrepublik » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:44 am

Aterria wrote:
Oesterrepublik wrote:I'd jump for joy if it was Leninist. If it were Maoist, i'd hope to not be killed.

Hugs comrade.

:D

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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:44 am

But does it turn into an oppressive deformed worker's state?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Ikania » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:45 am

Get the fuck out of there before the economy collapses.
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Postby Oesterrepublik » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:45 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:What if you got increased quality of life out of it?

Not really going for that, would like power more

*Egoism intensifies*

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Postby Aterria » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:45 am

Pandeeria wrote:But does it turn into an oppressive deformed worker's state?

I'm honestly hoping not. If I do get a political position up there, I'll definitely make it more libertarian (or attempt).
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Postby Socialist Tera » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:45 am

Pandeeria wrote:But does it turn into an oppressive deformed worker's state?

No. It does not, it depends on what you consider oppressive deformed worker's state. It won't be Khrushchev like or state capitalist like China.
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Postby Oesterrepublik » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:46 am

Aterria wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:But does it turn into an oppressive deformed worker's state?

I'm honestly hoping not. If I do get a political position up there, I'll definitely make it more libertarian (or attempt).

Let's hope it went to communism not long after the revolution.

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Postby Kazarogkai » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:46 am

Use it as the perfect opportunity to start a nationalist/reactionary rebellion to topple the government and bring about something a little more palatable. Though I may sympathies in some aspects and sectors to the left I am an irreconcilable anti-communist and will never accept such a thing. My lack of any love for democracy helps in this regard. Viva Columbia death to communism, Ave Mussolini.
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:47 am

Socialist Tera wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:But does it turn into an oppressive deformed worker's state?

No. It does not, it depends on what you consider oppressive deformed worker's state. It won't be Khrushchev like or state capitalist like China.


Will it stomp out any dissenting opinions, or will it still hold elections, allowing for free and open discussion and media, and not be a Single Party shit stain?
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:47 am

Oesterrepublik wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Not really going for that, would like power more

*Egoism intensifies*

What can I say raw unadulterated power drives me. If I'd get more power from leading a rebellion against this government I'd definitely do so, but if I got more power from said government, I'd support said government
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Postby Oesterrepublik » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:49 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Oesterrepublik wrote:*Egoism intensifies*

What can I say raw unadulterated power drives me. If I'd get more power from leading a rebellion against this government I'd definitely do so, but if I got more power from said government, I'd support said government

I can't argue with that. But I am more concerned with happiness, so I'd hope for communism

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Postby Aterria » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:51 am

Oesterrepublik wrote:
Aterria wrote:I'm honestly hoping not. If I do get a political position up there, I'll definitely make it more libertarian (or attempt).

Let's hope it went to communism not long after the revolution.

The stateless society should come some day.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:51 am

Oesterrepublik wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What can I say raw unadulterated power drives me. If I'd get more power from leading a rebellion against this government I'd definitely do so, but if I got more power from said government, I'd support said government

I can't argue with that. But I am more concerned with happiness, so I'd hope for communism

Power makes me happy
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Postby Socialist Tera » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Oesterrepublik wrote:*Egoism intensifies*

What can I say raw unadulterated power drives me. If I'd get more power from leading a rebellion against this government I'd definitely do so, but if I got more power from said government, I'd support said government

Rebels say you can be a grunt. Government says you can have a desk job and if you prove yourself you could eventually rise to a position of power. Who do you choose?

Pandeeria wrote:
Socialist Tera wrote:No. It does not, it depends on what you consider oppressive deformed worker's state. It won't be Khrushchev like or state capitalist like China.


Will it stomp out any dissenting opinions, or will it still hold elections, allowing for free and open discussion and media, and not be a Single Party shit stain?

It will hold elections and you can hold dissenting opinion as long as you don't act on them. There will still be the typical single party "shit" though but there are elections in the single party system.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:52 am

  • No more ultra-leftism
  • No more tolerance, only the party line
  • No more multiculturalism, only socialist culture
  • No more diversity, only the new socialist man
  • No more de-industrialization, only five year plans
  • No more greens, only the triumph of man over nature
  • No more islam, only state atheism
  • No more pacifism
  • No more globalization
  • No more bankers
  • No more welfare leaches, only a duty to work
  • No more reality TV, only stakhanovite principles

Sounds great. I'll run for the Politburo on my "Three Accelerations", accelerate the conquest of outer space, accelerate the growth of the Red Army, accelerate nuclear technology, and "Three No's": no relativism in the application of the party line, no tolerance for bourgeois culture, no compromise with the forces of international financial capitalism.
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Postby Pandeeria » Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:52 am

Oesterrepublik wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What can I say raw unadulterated power drives me. If I'd get more power from leading a rebellion against this government I'd definitely do so, but if I got more power from said government, I'd support said government

I can't argue with that. But I am more concerned with happiness, so I'd hope for communism


Leninism = An ideology to achieve Communism, characterized mainly by that of a Vangaurd Party.
Communism = A moneyless, stateless, classless political system

Kazarogkai wrote:Use it as the perfect opportunity to start a nationalist/reactionary rebellion to topple the government and bring about something a little more palatable. Though I may sympathies in some aspects and sectors to the left I am an irreconcilable anti-communist and will never accept such a thing. My lack of any love for democracy helps in this regard. Viva Columbia death to communism, Ave Mussolini.


The nationalist and reactionary ideologies of old are the equivalent of petrified dog shit and should die with history.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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