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What if: Your country becomes a Leninist/Maoist country?

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How would you react to the referendum?

I would be really happy/help the new status quo
66
15%
I would resume life as usual
68
16%
Peacefully resist
50
12%
Flee/ask another country for invasion
82
19%
Assassinate leaders, blow up buildings, kill military leaders until the state is dismantled.
140
33%
Other
23
5%
 
Total votes : 429

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Prolix Debate
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Postby Prolix Debate » Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:03 pm

The death of true and patriotic moralism and industrial hard-ethic nationalism, in exchange for a universalizing terror of economic dysfunction and strife?

I would not be content.
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:36 pm

I would leave and go to somewhere more reasonable, like GB, South Korea, or China (I know, the irony is not lost on me) and live there. Non mixed market economies have a proven track record of failure with regards to scientific and economic progress, and Leninist and Maoist nightmares are no exception.
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:45 pm

Atomic Utopia wrote:I would leave and go to somewhere more reasonable, like GB, South Korea, or China (I know, the irony is not lost on me) and live there. Non mixed market economies have a proven track record of failure with regards to scientific and economic progress, and Leninist and Maoist nightmares are no exception.


Yeah... because they are
1. often exploited by capitalist countries for cheap products
2. fucked over by those in power (the state is to blame)
3. dictatorships + protectionism = bad time

I think the statism of it is what kills the whole concept, because the interests of the higher class (the state) has a say over the citizens, which isn't really that socialist when one looks at the ideal communist state.
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Postby Greater Beggnig » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:52 pm

Socialist Tera wrote:Let's say suddenly tomorrow out of nowhere, there is a referendum being held and it succeeds. The proletariat takes over and a Leninist or a Maoist socialist state is established. This is a hypothetical so let's not talk about whether this is realistic or not.

For those who know nothing about soviet society: https://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/culture/

How would you react to the change? I would personally be really happy about the change and be really happy that there is socialism in one country.

If OP is too short mods, I can expand to explanation of how a socialist state works.


Depends.

Am I in a region known for seperatism? Am I liable to get Holodomored?

As a nativist, my next questions would be about the welfare of the people. I guess I'd take the same position as Brusilov did about the Soviet Union.

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Postby Threeman » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:53 pm

I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))

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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:08 pm

Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))


Why did you put "leaders" in parentheses?
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:09 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))


Why did you put "leaders" in parentheses?

It's neo-Nazi lingo.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:48 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))


Why did you put "leaders" in parentheses?

He's implying they're Jews, it's really really quite funny, because saying Jews run the world is controversial. Hee hee.
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Postby Greater Beggnig » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:50 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))


Why did you put "leaders" in parentheses?


It's meant to indicate that someone is Jewish.

The idea is to represent the sound of an echo in a physical medium.

Here's an example...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjSJxjBGrUY&feature=youtu.be&t=6s
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Postby Greater Beggnig » Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:53 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
Why did you put "leaders" in parentheses?

He's implying they're Jews, it's really really quite funny, because saying Jews run the world is controversial. Hee hee.


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Postby Threeman » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:31 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))


Why did you put "leaders" in parentheses?


It's an echo as the damage done by those who support communism and other dangerous ideals echoes throughout history and damages countless generations just so a few can get "muh scheckles!"

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Novus America
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Postby Novus America » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:43 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))


Why did you put "leaders" in parentheses?


http://www.mediaite.com/online/click-he ... eir-names/
It is some antiSemitic Neo Nazi shit. The parentheses indicating whoever is sourrounded by them is a Jew with negative connotations.
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Postby Ragnarum » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:58 am

I for one would probably end up joining an insurgent militia, subsequently dying in a hail of bullets to the sound of this whilst firing an acquired L1A1 from one of the windows of my house.

I may have taken to that idea too enthusiastically.
In all seriousness though, I don't think many people would be accepting of it, though it would present an opportunity to replace it with a much more desirable government than the one we have now or the one we would have in said scenario.
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Postby Kryozerkia » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:14 am

Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))

Since the "echo" is meant to be offensive with antisemitic connotations, it's being treated as offensive. *** Warned for trolling ***.
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Nordoya
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Postby Nordoya » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:57 am

Id probably peacefully resist. Seeing how that's worked out in Hong Kong, I might have to turn it up to 11 and go full Mandela.

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Postby Wolfmanne2 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:38 am

Kryozerkia wrote:
Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))

Since the "echo" is meant to be offensive with antisemitic connotations, it's being treated as offensive. *** Warned for trolling ***.

A warning for antisemitism? Surely that's a ban.

EDIT: Never mind, ex-ed.
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Postby Lautrec- » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:22 am

Ideally, flee the country immediately to avoid becoming a state slave.

If I couldn't flee, I'd join the resistance. Better to die painfully within a couple of years than life my entire life in a Maoist state.

Kryozerkia wrote:
Threeman wrote:I would do all I could to overthrow the new regime and it's (((leaders)))

Since the "echo" is meant to be offensive with antisemitic connotations, it's being treated as offensive. *** Warned for trolling ***.


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Postby Sanctissima » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:34 am

Well, since I live in Canada, I'd probably flee to the US, and join other Canadian refugees lobbying the US government for military intervention.

Then it's just a matter of supporting the Canadian resistance forces until we can oust the Commies.

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Postby The Christonian Imperium » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:28 pm

happened
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:38 pm

Join a counter-revolutionary insurgency.

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Postby Kadur » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:44 pm

Reconquer my nation and liberate them.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:45 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Join a counter-revolutionary insurgency.
Kadur wrote:Reconquer my nation and liberate them.
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