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Postby Aelex » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:48 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:*english army laughs as knights are cut down*

English Peasants Bowmen < French Compagnies d'Ordonnance :p
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Postby Aelex » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:50 am

Minzerland II wrote:[Battle of Agincourt]

To be fair, Azincourt was the result of knights yoloing like retards, not of superior armies or tactic.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:50 am

Aelex wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:*english army laughs as knights are cut down*

English Peasants Bowmen < French Compagnies d'Ordonnance :p


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Postby Soadino » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:50 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Soadino wrote:*French knight laughs in the distance as the English can't even Knight. :^)*

[Battle of Agincourt]

*House of Valois laughs in the distance because it doesn't even matter in the end because France won*
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Postby Aelex » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:56 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:"when you try your best but you don't succeed"


Hé, as long as it bleed enough, there is still pleasure to get out of beating a corpse. :p
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Postby Minzerland II » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:56 am

Aelex wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:[Battle of Agincourt]

To be fair, Azincourt was the result of knights yoloing like retards, not of superior armies or tactic.

Typical French arrogance. :p Besides, it was more due to the rise of projectile weaponry, which could kill the heavily armoured knights before they reached the enemy than it was due to 'yoloing'.
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Postby Belle Ilse en Terre » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:57 am

I would like to point out an alarming technicality in the survey atop this forum. Fascism is not a right wing philosophy and does not originate from the political right.

The policies of fascism do not reflect political freedom or free market principles; Fascism, like Socialism, has a heavily regulated or government owned economy. Fascism limits political expression, as seen in Italy, Germany, and Communist Russia with there camps and executions.

Why are Socialism and Fascism so similar if one is on the left and the ither is from the right?

Fascism is a leftist philosophy.
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Postby Soadino » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:58 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Aelex wrote:To be fair, Azincourt was the result of knights yoloing like retards, not of superior armies or tactic.

Typical French arrogance. :p Besides, it was more due to the rise of projectile weaponry, which could kill the heavily armoured knights before they reached the enemy than it was due to 'yoloing'.

Typical English arrogance=rekt by 'Murica and France
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:59 am

Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:I would like to point out an alarming technicality in the survey atop this forum. Fascism is not a right wing philosophy and does not originate from the political right.

The policies of fascism do not reflect political freedom or free market principles; Fascism, like Socialism, has a heavily regulated or government owned economy. Fascism limits political expression, as seen in Italy, Germany, and Communist Russia with there camps and executions.

Why are Socialism and Fascism so similar if one is on the left and the ither is from the right?

Fascism is a leftist philosophy.


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Postby Soadino » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:59 am

Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:I would like to point out an alarming technicality in the survey atop this forum. Fascism is not a right wing philosophy and does not originate from the political right.

The policies of fascism do not reflect political freedom or free market principles; Fascism, like Socialism, has a heavily regulated or government owned economy. Fascism limits political expression, as seen in Italy, Germany, and Communist Russia with there camps and executions.

Why are Socialism and Fascism so similar if one is on the left and the ither is from the right?

Fascism is a leftist philosophy.

Well, it's not a Democratic ideology. :L
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:01 am

Soadino wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Typical French arrogance. :p Besides, it was more due to the rise of projectile weaponry, which could kill the heavily armoured knights before they reached the enemy than it was due to 'yoloing'.

Typical English arrogance=rekt by 'Murica and France


America is a nothing but a uncivilised turncoat country, and a country that basically butchered the Queens language to boot.

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Postby Soadino » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:03 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Soadino wrote:Typical English arrogance=rekt by 'Murica and France


America is a nothing but a uncivilised turncoat country, and a country that basically butchered the Queens language to boot.

Somebody is mad that the 'uncivilized' country beat the Brits :^)))
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:03 am

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Bakery Hill wrote:Rojava's PEP isn't against small business and entrepreneurship funnily enough. It's just largely cooperative.

I'm not talking about Rojava specifically, but rather communism in general which is against private property ownership of the means of production.

I'll take the Kurds over ISIS any day of the week.

A transition to communal property that sees the absorption of small business and entrepreneurs is something I'd prefer. And I'm not fundamentally against artisanry. Me and the PYD are still communists in thinking this, it's a broad church, or maybe just a schismatic one.
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Postby Aelex » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:04 am

Minzerland II wrote:Typical French arrogance. :p Besides, it was more due to the rise of projectile weaponry, which could kill the heavily armoured knights before they reached the enemy than it was due to 'yoloing'.

Well, no actually. Bodkin arrows will able to cause damages weren't able to perforate plate armor easily. If the French Knights didn't yoloed into charging the archers who were in a defensive position and blobbed themselves so much that they made it even harder to move accross the muddy plains, there would probably had be no clear victory for either side in this battle, just like for most battles in the middle age.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:04 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Soadino wrote:Typical English arrogance=rekt by 'Murica and France


America is a nothing but a uncivilised turncoat country, and a country that basically butchered the Queens language to boot.


Jealously brings ruin :^).
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:08 am

Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:I would like to point out an alarming technicality in the survey atop this forum. Fascism is not a right wing philosophy and does not originate from the political right.

The policies of fascism do not reflect political freedom or free market principles; Fascism, like Socialism, has a heavily regulated or government owned economy. Fascism limits political expression, as seen in Italy, Germany, and Communist Russia with there camps and executions.

Why are Socialism and Fascism so similar if one is on the left and the ither is from the right?

Fascism is a leftist philosophy.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:08 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:We can never really know what's going on in someone's head, or what their intentions are. All we can judge them on is what they've said and done already, and extrapolate. With that in mind, insisting that the Rojavans are going to carry out Stalinesque purges in the future is a bit weird.

Not really. Seeing it's been the point reached by every successful communist revolution so far.

Oh! And I forgot the famine. That always seems to set in. Coincidence, I'm sure.

You're talking about Leninism. I'm not a Leninist. And Rojava isn't a Leninist project. We're both skeptical of such things. I'm not insisting social democracy and libertarian capitalism are the same or going to have the same effects, that'd be ludicrous, despite both of them having private ownership of the means of production. So I'm hoping your intellectually honest enough to realise the differences between different systems and projects that emphasise a social ownership.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:08 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Now you're getting a bit silly.

Am I? That's what's happened to the Western world.

That's more capitalism mate. Individualisation, fracturing of old identities etc. all subordinated to profit.
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Postby Minzerland II » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:09 am

Aelex wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Typical French arrogance. :p Besides, it was more due to the rise of projectile weaponry, which could kill the heavily armoured knights before they reached the enemy than it was due to 'yoloing'.

Well, no actually. Bodkin arrows will able to cause damages weren't able to perforate plate armor easily. If the French Knights didn't yoloed into charging the archers who were in a defensive position and blobbed themselves so much that they made it even harder to move accross the muddy plains, there would probably had be no clear victory for either side in this battle, just like for most battles in the middle age.

Well, yes, the cavalry 'yoloed', however, the ground troops in heavy armour were ineffective because they were slow and heavy, especially in muddy terrain such as Agincourt where they were shot to death; they really were only effective when coupled with projectile units.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:09 am

Uxupox wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
America is a nothing but a uncivilised turncoat country, and a country that basically butchered the Queens language to boot.


Jealously brings ruin :^).


We will bring ruin to the country that is known as America.

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Postby Soadino » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:10 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Jealously brings ruin :^).


We will bring ruin to the country that is known as America.

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Postby Soadino » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:11 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Jealously brings ruin :^).


We will bring ruin to the country that is known as America.

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But the Brits gotta deal with the kebab first. :^)
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:11 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Not really. Seeing it's been the point reached by every successful communist revolution so far.

Oh! And I forgot the famine. That always seems to set in. Coincidence, I'm sure.

You're talking about Leninism. I'm not a Leninist. And Rojava isn't a Leninist project. We're both skeptical of such things. I'm not insisting social democracy and libertarian capitalism are the same or going to have the same effects, that'd be ludicrous, despite both of them having private ownership of the means of production. So I'm hoping your intellectually honest enough to realise the differences between different systems and projects that emphasise a social ownership.

Fine then. I didn't know you were not Marxist-Leninist.

But to be fair, that has been known to happen with most communist regimes.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:12 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Belle Ilse en Terre wrote:I would like to point out an alarming technicality in the survey atop this forum. Fascism is not a right wing philosophy and does not originate from the political right.

The policies of fascism do not reflect political freedom or free market principles; Fascism, like Socialism, has a heavily regulated or government owned economy. Fascism limits political expression, as seen in Italy, Germany, and Communist Russia with there camps and executions.

Why are Socialism and Fascism so similar if one is on the left and the ither is from the right?

Fascism is a leftist philosophy.

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:13 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Am I? That's what's happened to the Western world.

That's more capitalism mate. Individualisation, fracturing of old identities etc. all subordinated to profit.

Yes. But social liberalism in general does that. And from what I've heard from leftists, it doesn't seem their plan is any less anti-conservatism than liberals who are generally capitalist in some way.
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