Right Wing Discussion Thread the Third

[Dushan]

Not exactly alt-right but here you go:

http://www.vice.com/read/after-isis-kil ... t-back-253

QUERFRONT!

I'm a bit iffy about the mercenary thing, but if he's genuinely helping Assyrians, good on him.

Mercenaries are cool. Jagged Alliance ftw

[Bakery Hill]

<leftist volunteering to actually fight salafism rather than just complaining on the internet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... _Battalion

Plz let me know when the alt-right does the same.

He's defending non fundamentalist Islam. Something alt rightists are practically defined by the refusal to do. He isn't an alt rightist.

Yeah I know, that was a bit harsh haha

Annyway, the Red Kurds will only bring another form of tyranny. Although got to admit, them wrecking Salafis is a good source of schadenfreude.

The tyranny of DIRECT DEMOCRACY! *dum dum dummmmm* and equal rights for women and minorities! Ah, decentralised communes everywhere! Oh the humanity!

A bit like when Hezbollah does it. Rooting for Khomeinists would be awful. But hearing about the destruction to Salafis they're causing never ceases to make me smile. Although ultimately I hope the same comes to them and their fundamentalist overseers in Iran.

I'm with you there.

[The Kievan People]

I meant the eagle you had earlier in one of your posts. For some reason.

Oh.

Well, fair enough.

[Jochizyd Republic]

The tyranny of DIRECT DEMOCRACY! *dum dum dummmmm* and equal rights for women and minorities! Ah, decentralised communes everywhere! Oh the humanity!

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

Or they degrade your people's tradition, faith and decency and take away your rights according to their feelings on what racial or sexual minority is oppressed. Usually becoming so soft and so emotionally driven that they refuse to deal with extremists among minorities.

[Minzerland II]

The tyranny of DIRECT DEMOCRACY! *dum dum dummmmm* and equal rights for women and minorities! Ah, decentralised communes everywhere! Oh the humanity!

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

Don't forget the Gulags.

[Napkiraly]

It never ceases to make me laugh how some modern nationists try to squirm out of the fact that Classical Fascists and Nationalists were completely pro Islam. And probably would be now if they were alive today. Albeit definately and rightly so opposed to the Puritan schools and sects.

As long as you were okay with a secular state, then yeah. I don't think that Mussolini and co. would take kindly to modern Wahabhists trying to put theology above the state though.

I do enjoy trolling modern "nationalists" by telling them that Mussolini allowed Libyans to become Italian citizens, and I would have gone a step further by encouraging Italians to marry them.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Fascist Italy also bring a full end to slavery after they conquered Ethiopia?

[Jochizyd Republic]

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

Don't forget the Gulags.

I didn't. Hence "they tend to work you to death".

[FelrikTheDeleted]

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

Don't forget the Gulags.

And if I am correct, Human experiments.

[Bakery Hill]

The tyranny of DIRECT DEMOCRACY! *dum dum dummmmm* and equal rights for women and minorities! Ah, decentralised communes everywhere! Oh the humanity!

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

We can never really know what's going on in someone's head, or what their intentions are. All we can judge them on is what they've said and done already, and extrapolate. With that in mind, insisting that the Rojavans are going to carry out Stalinesque purges in the future is a bit weird.

[Bakery Hill]

Or they degrade your people's tradition, faith and decency and take away your rights according to their feelings on what racial or sexual minority is oppressed. Usually becoming so soft and so emotionally driven that they refuse to deal with extremists among minorities.

Now you're getting a bit silly.

[Bakery Hill]

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

Don't forget the Gulags.

So many gulags in Rojava rn.

[Napkiraly]

The tyranny of DIRECT DEMOCRACY! *dum dum dummmmm* and equal rights for women and minorities! Ah, decentralised communes everywhere! Oh the humanity!

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

Or they degrade your people's tradition, faith and decency and take away your rights according to their feelings on what racial or sexual minority is oppressed. Usually becoming so soft and so emotionally driven that they refuse to deal with extremists among minorities.

While also denying you the right to own the business you started.

[Bakery Hill]

Don't forget the Gulags.

And if I am correct, Human experiments.

Like the US?

[Bakery Hill]

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

Or they degrade your people's tradition, faith and decency and take away your rights according to their feelings on what racial or sexual minority is oppressed. Usually becoming so soft and so emotionally driven that they refuse to deal with extremists among minorities.

While also denying you the right to own the business you started.

Rojava's PEP isn't against small business and entrepreneurship funnily enough. It's just largely cooperative.

[Wulfenia]

As long as you were okay with a secular state, then yeah. I don't think that Mussolini and co. would take kindly to modern Wahabhists trying to put theology above the state though.

I do enjoy trolling modern "nationalists" by telling them that Mussolini allowed Libyans to become Italian citizens, and I would have gone a step further by encouraging Italians to marry them.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Fascist Italy also bring a full end to slavery after they conquered Ethiopia?

Pretty much. They also gave Eritrea some of the best living standards of the continent.

[Jochizyd Republic]

It never ceases to make me laugh how some modern nationists try to squirm out of the fact that Classical Fascists and Nationalists were completely pro Islam. And probably would be now if they were alive today. Albeit definately and rightly so opposed to the Puritan schools and sects.

As long as you were okay with a secular state, then yeah. I don't think that Mussolini and co. would take kindly to modern Wahabhists trying to put theology above the state though.

I do enjoy trolling modern "nationalists" by telling them that Mussolini allowed Libyans to become Italian citizens, and I would have gone a step further by encouraging Italians to marry them.

I'm not overly fond of secularism. It would be preferable for Christianity, Judaism, Neoplatonism or some Western religion to have a direct role in Western politics in order to preserve the traditions and virtues of the given nation.

But Classical Fascism, although modernist, isn't the kind I would mind living under. It seems, in it's own way, that it would preserve the traditions and virtues of a nation.

I think I would be okay. I wouldn't rock the boat. They tolerated Evola after all.

And yeah. Lol. Mussolini and the early Fascists were remarkably kind to the idea of racial diversity. As long as it didn't interfere with national unity.

[Napkiraly]

While also denying you the right to own the business you started.

Rojava's PEP isn't against small business and entrepreneurship funnily enough. It's just largely cooperative.

I'm not talking about Rojava specifically, but rather communism in general which is against private property ownership of the means of production.

I'll take the Kurds over ISIS any day of the week.

[Minzerland II]

Don't forget the Gulags.

So many gulags in Rojava rn.

They call them Sand Gulags; littered around the place.

[Jochizyd Republic]

That's what Reds always tell you they're going to do.

Then they tend to work you to death or shoot you into a grave they made you dig.

We can never really know what's going on in someone's head, or what their intentions are. All we can judge them on is what they've said and done already, and extrapolate. With that in mind, insisting that the Rojavans are going to carry out Stalinesque purges in the future is a bit weird.

Not really. Seeing it's been the point reached by every successful communist revolution so far.

Oh! And I forgot the famine. That always seems to set in. Coincidence, I'm sure.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Or they degrade your people's tradition, faith and decency and take away your rights according to their feelings on what racial or sexual minority is oppressed. Usually becoming so soft and so emotionally driven that they refuse to deal with extremists among minorities.

Now you're getting a bit silly.

Am I? That's what's happened to the Western world.

[Dushan]

Now you're getting a bit silly.

Am I? That's what's happened to the Western world.

Not only that but it became a Dogma.

Europe made itself prisoner to this liberal Dogma and is now dying by it like the USSR did on it's communist Dogma.

[Wulfenia]

As long as you were okay with a secular state, then yeah. I don't think that Mussolini and co. would take kindly to modern Wahabhists trying to put theology above the state though.

I do enjoy trolling modern "nationalists" by telling them that Mussolini allowed Libyans to become Italian citizens, and I would have gone a step further by encouraging Italians to marry them.

I'm not overly fond of secularism. It would be preferable for Christianity, Judaism, Neoplatonism or some Western religion to have a direct role in Western politics in order to preserve the traditions and virtues of the given nation.

But Classical Fascism, although modernist, isn't the kind I would mind living under. It seems, in it's own way, that it would preserve the traditions and virtues of a nation.

I think I would be okay. I wouldn't rock the boat. They tolerated Evola after all.

And yeah. Lol. Mussolini and the early Fascists were remarkably kind to the idea of racial diversity. As long as it didn't interfere with national unity.

Fascism is not secular in the agnostic sense, rather it sees the state as a spiritual reality with it's own unique character, means, and ends. For that reason, it cannot allow religious organizations to place themselves above it. Philosophically speaking, it's pantheist rather than atheist or agnostic.

Amusingly, Evola stated while life was difficult for him under Fascist Italy, he never ended up put on trial for his beliefs like he was by the "democratic" Allies. Perhaps Mussolini's prophetic line will come true. Fascism will be seen as more and more golden when people realize that the idol of liberty is something jealously guarded by liberalism, something kept to oneself and denied to others.

[Dushan]

Fascism is not secular in the agnostic sense, rather it sees the state as a spiritual reality with it's own unique character, means, and ends. For that reason, it cannot allow religious organizations to place themselves above it. Philosophically speaking, it's pantheist rather than atheist or agnostic.

Thats an interesting viewpoint on things. I did not have looked upon this before from this perspective. Though it is realistic and how do we define the State?

As the real existing bureaucratic apparatus with whom we have to deal from time to time (here in europe slightly more than in the US i guess) or do we see it as the theoretical all-encompassing collective we belong to like a cell to an Organism?

Amusingly, Evola stated while life was difficult for him under Fascist Italy, he never ended up put on trial for his beliefs like he was by the "democratic" Allies. Perhaps Mussolini's prophetic line will come true. Fascism will be seen as more and more golden when people realize that the idol of liberty is something jealously guarded by liberalism, something kept to oneself and denied to others.

I often observe this currently in the german mainstream Media and Press who's getting on an increasingly defensive stance, often presenting Ideological arguments for liberalism and denouncing unorthodox views as "un-democratic" which is a designation for thought deemed not acceptable on the official discursus.

[Osfjoll]

Except they didn't have chemical/biological WMDs either. [x]

Ah... well, nevermind then.

Also, what is RWDT's policy on WMDs? Use'em, disarm'em, or keep'em locked up?

A technological cancer, which also degrades the Earth.

[Jochizyd Republic]

I'm not overly fond of secularism. It would be preferable for Christianity, Judaism, Neoplatonism or some Western religion to have a direct role in Western politics in order to preserve the traditions and virtues of the given nation.

But Classical Fascism, although modernist, isn't the kind I would mind living under. It seems, in it's own way, that it would preserve the traditions and virtues of a nation.

I think I would be okay. I wouldn't rock the boat. They tolerated Evola after all.

And yeah. Lol. Mussolini and the early Fascists were remarkably kind to the idea of racial diversity. As long as it didn't interfere with national unity.

Fascism is not secular in the agnostic sense, rather it sees the state as a spiritual reality with it's own unique character, means, and ends. For that reason, it cannot allow religious organizations to place themselves above it. Philosophically speaking, it's pantheist rather than atheist or agnostic.

Amusingly, Evola stated while life was difficult for him under Fascist Italy, he never ended up put on trial for his beliefs like he was by the "democratic" Allies. Perhaps Mussolini's prophetic line will come true. Fascism will be seen as more and more golden when people realize that the idol of liberty is something jealously guarded by liberalism, something kept to oneself and denied to others.

That's a good observation. lol.
And interesting spiritual stance. Does Fascism follow any particular religion in this or allow people to choose their own as long as the doctrines of whatever religious school of choice one chooses don't undermine unity in the state?