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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
376
37%
Donald J. Trump (Republican)
277
27%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
159
16%
Jill Stein (Green)
104
10%
Undecided
40
4%
Other
57
6%
 
Total votes : 1013

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:11 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:Are you kidding me? He's almost as ignorant as Trump! How does he not even know what Allepo is?

If it is not the name of something you can order at your local Starbucks, changes are that many members of the American public are unfamiliar with it.

Yes, but if you are running for POTUS, you ought to know more about foreign policy than the average American.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:14 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:If it is not the name of something you can order at your local Starbucks, changes are that many members of the American public are unfamiliar with it.

Yes, but if you are running for POTUS, you ought to know more about foreign policy than the average American.

In other parts of the world, maybe.


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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:14 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Yes, but if you are running for POTUS, you ought to know more about foreign policy than the average American.

In other parts of the world, maybe.

:eyebrow:
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:19 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Yes, but if you are running for POTUS, you ought to know more about foreign policy than the average American.

In other parts of the world, maybe.

The fact he doesn't know about Aleppo, a besieged city in the largest conflict going on right, is really bad.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:28 am

Guy wrote:
“What would you do if you were elected about Aleppo?” MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” panelist Mike Barnicle asked the former New Mexico governor during an in-studio interview Thursday morning.

“And what is Aleppo?” Johnson responded.

“You’re kidding,” a stunned Barnicle replied, to which Johnson answered that he was not.

Barnicle explained to the Libertarian candidate that Aleppo is “the epicenter of the refugee crisis” in Syria, giving Johnson enough information to finally answer the question.

Video

Hmmm.

What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Guy wrote:Video

Hmmm.

What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything

I know, right? Hell, even looking for news on what is happening in Aleppo is hard now, with so many Johnson articles drowning out the war reports.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:34 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:In other parts of the world, maybe.

:eyebrow:

The average American is stupidly dumb when it comes to foreign affairs. I'd bet you that 30% if not more have no clue what NATO is, 40% think that Europe is its own nation, and many others don't know shit outside of their immediate area
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:34 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Guy wrote:Video

Hmmm.

What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything


shouldn't everyone be going apeshit over trump praising putin, wanting to steal oil--actually have BLOOD FOR OIL--defending a tweet suggesting that women in the military means rape in the military?
whatever

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:35 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote: :eyebrow:

The average American is stupidly dumb when it comes to foreign affairs. I'd bet you that 30% if not more have no clue what NATO is, 40% think that Europe is its own nation, and many others don't know shit outside of their immediate area

Hummus is a terrorist organization.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:36 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything

shouldn't everyone be going apeshit over trump praising putin, wanting to steal oil--actually have BLOOD FOR OIL--defending a tweet suggesting that women in the military means rape in the military?

Wow...that's sexist against both men and women. I wonder if he's going for a triple.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:36 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything


shouldn't everyone be going apeshit over trump praising putin, wanting to steal oil--actually have BLOOD FOR OIL--defending a tweet suggesting that women in the military means rape in the military?

Nope because Johnson, who isn't going to realistically win anyway, said what's Aleppo?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:38 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The average American is stupidly dumb when it comes to foreign affairs. I'd bet you that 30% if not more have no clue what NATO is, 40% think that Europe is its own nation, and many others don't know shit outside of their immediate area

Hummus is a terrorist organization.

There are probably about 20,000 people who would literally believe you
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:48 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
shouldn't everyone be going apeshit over trump praising putin, wanting to steal oil--actually have BLOOD FOR OIL--defending a tweet suggesting that women in the military means rape in the military?

Nope because Johnson, who isn't going to realistically win anyway, said what's Aleppo?

it is crazy

trump says more disqualifying things in a day than Johnson will say all campaign but Johnson is what we have to talk about.
whatever

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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:55 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The average American is stupidly dumb when it comes to foreign affairs. I'd bet you that 30% if not more have no clue what NATO is, 40% think that Europe is its own nation, and many others don't know shit outside of their immediate area

Hummus is a terrorist organization.


Hummus is terrorist yes. I got a 350 ml container of it discounted for the sell-by date and scoffed it down, then the hummus released poison gas in my subway. If anyone had been standing nearby they probably would have died.

I wouldn't say the hummus was organized though.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:07 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
shouldn't everyone be going apeshit over trump praising putin, wanting to steal oil--actually have BLOOD FOR OIL--defending a tweet suggesting that women in the military means rape in the military?

Nope because Johnson, who isn't going to realistically win anyway, said what's Aleppo?


"I'd grant the leppos asylum in the US" or "I would bomb the leppos" are both wrong answers.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:22 am

Ailiailia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Nope because Johnson, who isn't going to realistically win anyway, said what's Aleppo?


"I'd grant the leppos asylum in the US" or "I would bomb the leppos" are both wrong answers.

Still it's better than, "Idk, let's let Russia decide"
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:24 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything

shouldn't everyone be going apeshit over trump praising putin, wanting to steal oil--actually have BLOOD FOR OIL--defending a tweet suggesting that women in the military means rape in the military?

The day's not over yet. Surely we can squeeze another outburst of righteous indignation in our busy schemes.


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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:25 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:shouldn't everyone be going apeshit over trump praising putin, wanting to steal oil--actually have BLOOD FOR OIL--defending a tweet suggesting that women in the military means rape in the military?

The day's not over yet. Surely we can squeeze another outburst of righteous indignation in our busy schemes.

Sorry I'm all out of righteous indignation, I do have a few "fucks to give" though
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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Guy wrote:Video

Hmmm.

What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything


Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:31 am

Balkenreich wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything


Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.

Nah she knows what human emotion is. Now Ted Cruz, there's a guy that has no idea what human emotion or facial expressions are.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.

Nah she knows what human emotion is. Now Ted Cruz, there's a guy that has no idea what human emotion or facial expressions are.

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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:40 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.

Nah she knows what human emotion is. Now Ted Cruz, there's a guy that has no idea what human emotion or facial expressions are.


Impossible, Synths dont know what emotion is.
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Postby AiliailiA » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:45 am

Balkenreich wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything


Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.


What a load of misogynistic crap.

Clinton is more rational and self-controlled than Gary Johnson is, and enormously more so than Trump is. If this was a contest of all men, you would certainly prefer the candidate who was most rational and self-controlled.

Clinton isn't emotional enough for you, but that's not her fault. That's your fault. You expect from her something that you wouldn't even look for in the other candidates. You want her to be emotional.

Fuck that. I hope you spend the next four (or eight) years with President Clinton four times a week top of the news and you never see her cry. When she's done pretending to be nice and humble to get elected, I hope she's as hard as Thatcher. I hope she kills your sexist assumptions stone dead.
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Postby Balkenreich » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:47 am

Ailiailia wrote:
Balkenreich wrote:
Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.


What a load of misogynistic crap.

Clinton is more rational and self-controlled than Gary Johnson is, and enormously more so than Trump is. If this was a contest of all men, you would certainly prefer the candidate who was most rational and self-controlled.

Clinton isn't emotional enough for you, but that's not her fault. That's your fault. You expect from her something that you wouldn't even look for in the other candidates. You want her to be emotional.

Fuck that. I hope you spend the next four (or eight) years with President Clinton four times a week top of the news and you never see her cry. When she's done pretending to be nice and humble to get elected, I hope she's as hard as Thatcher. I hope she kills your sexist assumptions stone dead.

...

Dude. Ive been comparing Clinton to being a synth(jokingly) for....how many months now?

Way to be selective. nice. *thumbs up

And also, how long did it take you to type that up?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:48 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Guy wrote:Video

Hmmm.

What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything

Trump keeps being all the Trump the Trump can be so consistently, people tend to become jaded. Hence the desire to focus upon something else, no matter how insignificant it may be in the long run.


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