US General Election Thread III: Clinton vs. Trump

[Philjia]

You never know, they might do something different. Like bringing back hanging. The worst part is, that would probably be better than lethal injection, because it's cheaper and more humane.

And you can always get rope, unlike some of the merciful chemicals used in lethal injections that namby-pamby liberals keep denying to the vengeance of the American People.

The US justice system is worryingly bad at killing people properly. Firstly they keep killing the wrong people (IE unarmed civillians), and then when they do manage to get somebody through a trial onto death row they probably won't be executed, and if they then manage to get the poor sod into an execution chamber there's a fair chance they'll totally fuck it up and leabe them to an agonising demise, or even fail to kill them completely.

[Thermodolia]

Maybe she's just had enough and being politically "clever" doesn't come into it.

That too.

But if the marriage was much more than political, she probably would've ended it years ago.

Or maybe she wanted to try and fix the marriage and not end it at the drop of a hat.

[Thermodolia]

And you can always get rope, unlike some of the merciful chemicals used in lethal injections that namby-pamby liberals keep denying to the vengeance of the American People.

The US justice system is worryingly bad at killing people properly. Firstly they keep killing the wrong people (IE unarmed civillians), and then when they do manage to get somebody through a trial onto death row they probably won't be executed, and if they then manage to get the poor sod into an execution chamber there's a fair chance they'll totally fuck it up and leabe them to an agonising demise, or even fail to kill them completely.

It's like the US government shouldn't be killing anyone

[Eol Sha]

More law and order?

Slum-busting Trump style. Build lots of big beautiful apartment blocks, with 10% of each reserved for the poor and their own entrances ... which open onto the alley out back.

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

[Major-Tom]

That too.

But if the marriage was much more than political, she probably would've ended it years ago.

Or maybe she wanted to try and fix the marriage and not end it at the drop of a hat.

Maybe. I'm just cynical.

[AiliailiA]

And you can always get rope, unlike some of the merciful chemicals used in lethal injections that namby-pamby liberals keep denying to the vengeance of the American People.

The US justice system is worryingly bad at killing people properly. Firstly they keep killing the wrong people (IE unarmed civillians), and then when they do manage to get somebody through a trial onto death row they probably won't be executed, and if they then manage to get the poor sod into an execution chamber there's a fair chance they'll totally fuck it up and leabe them to an agonising demise, or even fail to kill them completely.

1. Cops shoot people too often, that's bad and should be reduced ... though Federal government intervening in local and state policing is contentious.
2. The long delay on death row is due to further avenues of appeal specifically for capital punishment: this is something opponents of the death penalty have achieved to reduce its use.
3. The failures of the (previously humane and reliable) lethal injection method is again, something the opponents of the death penalty have achieved, only in this case it was drug companies who refused to supply drugs for execution

I'm opposed to the death penalty, but I'd feel like a hypocrit if I said "the US is bad at it and should give up trying". The very reason US governments are bad at executing people is the partial success of opponents like myself.

[AiliailiA]

Slum-busting Trump style. Build lots of big beautiful apartment blocks, with 10% of each reserved for the poor and their own entrances ... which open onto the alley out back.

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor. It will just drive them somewhere else.

The "servants entrance" for welfare tenants was something Trump actually did ...

[Geilinor]

Perhaps we should focus on policy instead of the divisive identity politics, which are just a smokescreen for politicians to carve out favors for special interest groups.

That doesn't make much sense because most "identity" groups have the same interests - opportunity, security, freedom, and prosperity. We could talk about what we have in common.

[Alien Space Bats]

You never know, they might do something different. Like bringing back hanging. The worst part is, that would probably be better than lethal injection, because it's cheaper and more humane.

Given the cost of drugs, I can't imagine that lethal injection is cheaper. And if the drop is calculated correctly, it's sure as Hell not more humane.

[Eol Sha]

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor. It will just drive them somewhere else.

The "servants entrance" for welfare tenants was something Trump actually did ...

I know, I know, nice things don't end poverty, but still...a nice beautiful apartment paid for by the Feds would be a nice place to live in.

I did not know that Trump specifically did that, but I had heard of such a thing. Truly despicable.

[Socialist Nordia]

https://www.splcenter.org/20160413/trum ... ns-schools
Setting a wonderful example. Seriously, Trump's actions are already causing negative effects.

[Alien Space Bats]

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor. It will just drive them somewhere else.

That's actually the plan for Detroit: Deny them water, then send in Protective Services to haul off the kids and the elderly, then condemn the properties, bulldoze the houses, give them to developers under eminent domain at pennies on the dollar, and let those developers build the kind of shiny new gentrified all-white city that the folks living north of 8 Mile Road would like for the "New Detroit" to be.

Kind of like New Orleans without the hurricane: A 21st Century version of the Trail of Tears, only sans Oklahoma ("We don't care where you go, but you can't stay here...").

[Ism]

You never know, they might do something different. Like bringing back hanging. The worst part is, that would probably be better than lethal injection, because it's cheaper and more humane.

Given the cost of drugs, I can't imagine that lethal injection is cheaper. And if the drop is calculated correctly, it's sure as Hell not more humane.

Perhaps, but there is the sensation of falling, helplessly, knowing how it will end, that is experienced by the executed. Maybe it's no worse than getting injected, but it is worth considering.

[Tectonix]

Given the cost of drugs, I can't imagine that lethal injection is cheaper. And if the drop is calculated correctly, it's sure as Hell not more humane.

Perhaps, but there is the sensation of falling, helplessly, knowing how it will end, that is experienced by the executed. Maybe it's no worse than getting injected, but it is worth considering.

How about just shooting them in the head? Not sure why we need to spend so much on doctors, nurses, medical supplies, facilities, electricity, and the lethal injection chemicals when America is so gun-overflowing. And if they are shot in the correct section of the brain, they'll hardly feel any pain.

[Gauthier]

Slum-busting Trump style. Build lots of big beautiful apartment blocks, with 10% of each reserved for the poor and their own entrances ... which open onto the alley out back.

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

The parts reserved for the poor of course will see jack shit in terms of quality and maintenance.

[Gauthier]

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor. It will just drive them somewhere else.

That's actually the plan for Detroit: Deny them water, then send in Protective Services to haul off the kids and the elderly, then condemn the properties, bulldoze the houses, give them to developers under eminent domain at pennies on the dollar, and let those developers build the kind of shiny new gentrified all-white city that the folks living north of 8 Mile Road would like for the "New Detroit" to be.

Kind of like New Orleans without the hurricane: A 21st Century version of the Trail of Tears, only sans Oklahoma ("We don't care where you go, but you can't stay here...").

White Reflight.

[Ism]

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

The parts reserved for the poor of course will see jack shit in terms of quality and maintenance.

Well if they want the good rooms they should just stop being poor. Lazy good for nothing welfare queens shouldn't get nice stuff.

[Eol Sha]

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

The parts reserved for the poor of course will see jack shit in terms of quality and maintenance.

I guess.

[Occupied Deutschland]

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor.

Gentrifying provided slight decreases in the poverty rate of those living in gentrifying neighborhoods, while those that didn't gentrify saw 7% increases in the poverty rate.

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor. It will just drive them somewhere else.

That's actually the plan for Detroit: Deny them water, then send in Protective Services to haul off the kids and the elderly...

Then use them as meat for our Lizard overlords. Glory be to Sssisszlak the Conqueror!

[New West Guiana]

http://dcpols.com/sarah-palin-blames-hillary-clinton-for-the-crack-on-her-head/?fb_ref=Default

Sarah Palin gets hit in head by rock, blames Hillary.

[Hittanryan]

http://dcpols.com/sarah-palin-blames-hillary-clinton-for-the-crack-on-her-head/?fb_ref=Default

Sarah Palin gets hit in head by rock, blames Hillary.

Related

[Alien Space Bats]

A couple of questions for Donald Trump fans:

1. The ENTIRE Texas-Mexico border runs along the Rio Grande. Indeed, it is legally defined by treaty AS the centerline of the Rio Grande. So, will we build the wall on our side of the river, their side of the river, or right down the middle of the river?
   
   
   1. If we build the wall on either side of the river, how do we guarantee irrigation access to both the US and Mexico, as required by treaty?
      
      
   2. If we build it right down the middle, how do we anchor the damned thing properly?
      
      
   3. The course of the Rio Grande actually changes from time to time, particularly when a hurricane or a powerful tropical storm roars in from the Gulf of Mexico and floods the region. Indeed, the border has been known to move a couple of miles at a time in some cases. What do we do with the wall when that happens?
2. Donald Trump promises to get rid of so-called "sanctuary cities". Since these cities are simply cities where local ordinance forbids police from using (read "wasting") municipal resources on immigration issues (which are properly a Federal matter anyway), and long-standing Supreme Court jurisprudence actually gives them that discretionary right (Prigg v. Pennsylvania, 41 U.S. 539 [1842]), how on Earth is the Federal government going to actually compel them to cooperate with DHS/INS agents when the law clearly permits them to say, "Hell, no!"?

[The Liberated Territories]

Right down the middle, and use the river as a moat for both sides.

[AiliailiA]

http://dcpols.com/sarah-palin-blames-hillary-clinton-for-the-crack-on-her-head/?fb_ref=Default

Sarah Palin gets hit in head by rock, blames Hillary.

Is this the start of a "thanks Hillary" meme? Oh happy day!

Obviously it wasn't Hillary. If it was, Sarah would be dead of course

[AiliailiA]

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor.

Gentrifying provided slight decreases in the poverty rate of those living in gentrifying neighborhoods, while those that didn't gentrify saw 7% increases in the poverty rate.

... of the people still living there.

You actually snipped out part of such a short post? Why ...?

To be honest that sounds kinda nice.

Gentrifying the inner cities won't make the urban poor any less poor. It will just drive them somewhere else.

*cough*