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Should we have a Muslim ban?

No, there should be no restrictions on Muslims coming in the US
175
41%
No, but we should make are vetting process stronger
111
26%
No, but we should ban Muslims from countries that harbor terrorists
33
8%
Yes, we should temporary ban Muslims until we update our vetting process
36
8%
Yes, we should impose a religious test, banning Muslims from entering the US permanently
8
2%
Yes, we should ban Islam and deport Muslims
61
14%
 
Total votes : 424

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Dahon
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Founded: Nov 11, 2015
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Postby Dahon » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:00 am

Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:I think it's kind of impossible to ban a religious group from a country, specially considering people already living in the States could convert and thus bypass the ban. It's like people think Islam is a race instead of a religion.
Slavaryia wrote:So many filthy socialists that support the extinction of their own race.

> extinction of their race.
This is a funny joke!


People are getting to that point. Give it time and we'll have someone printing The Protocols of the Imams of Mecca and Medina for the benefit of a world bereft of people to flay with.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:20 am

Slavaryia wrote:So many filthy socialists that support the extinction of their own race.


#whitegenocide
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:44 am

It really is too bad that liberals have hijacked every pro-Islam arguement and bastardized it into something so cartoonish. Denying hardline Islam exists in great quantities in the modern Islamic community (which it fucking does),
Denying that the terrorists have anything to do with Islam (which can definatwly be legitimately argued if your holding a form of Islam that isn't theirs as a moral objective. But not so much if you consider Islam as the non Monolithic force it is)
And other absurdities.

You can't defend your religion without being viewed as a liberal/left winger now. It's bullshit. Every reasonable arguement has been memed the fuck out of by liberal """allies""". Leading to the current reality of there being no hope whatsoever for moderation.
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Postby Nacesa Plana » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:30 am

Slavaryia wrote:So many filthy socialists that support the extinction of their own race.


I didn't know that 'filthy socialists' were a race.

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Des-Bal
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:51 am

This is one of those issues that reminds me that I hate basically everyone. Anyone who says that a fully developed and industrialized country has very anything significant to fear from immigration, cultural diversity, or Islam is lying or very badly confused. Fuck the Right. At the same time there exists a vigorously defended and totally fictional construction that no relationship exists between Islam and terrorism and the knee-jerk insistence that Islamic terrorists or terrorists motivated by Islam are like leprechauns. Fuck the Left. This is a stupid idea created by a person whose ability to say something polarizing vastly outstrips his understanding of the issues he's addressing.
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Troperia
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Founded: Jun 29, 2016
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Postby Troperia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:01 am

My opinion? Muslim ban is completely wrong and should never even be considered? I mean honestly,those terrorists don't know real Islam even if was right in front of their faces.

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Salus Maior
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Founded: Jun 16, 2014
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:20 am

Slavaryia wrote:So many filthy socialists that support the extinction of their own race.


Who cares?

For one it isn't even genocide by a long margin or mean the extinction of anything at all. But why does the "white race" even matter? Let alone any race for that matter.

It would be better for all people if the lines of race were blurred by interbreeding.
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Community Values
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Postby Community Values » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:24 am

Slavaryia wrote:So many filthy socialists that support the extinction of their own race.


Why should people care if their race becomes extinct? We're all humans, and it's not like it's the holocaust where people were actually murdered.
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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:25 am

Community Values wrote:
Slavaryia wrote:So many filthy socialists that support the extinction of their own race.


Why should people care if their race becomes extinct? We're all humans, and it's not like it's the holocaust where people were actually murdered.


It's not even extinction. Your genes still get passed on.
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Xadufell
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Founded: Mar 10, 2016
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Postby Xadufell » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:29 am

Oh no! How dare we put a temporary ban until we can properly screen people! Oh the humanity!

Seriously though, I think you'll live! It's not like we're committing genocide.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:43 am

Xadufell wrote:Oh no! How dare we put a temporary ban until we can properly screen people! Oh the humanity!

Seriously though, I think you'll live! It's not like we're committing genocide.

Imagine how people would react if there was a temporary ban on guns while we figure out the mass shooting issue?

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Slavaryia
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Founded: Mar 09, 2016
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Postby Slavaryia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:02 pm

Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:I think it's kind of impossible to ban a religious group from a country, specially considering people already living in the States could convert and thus bypass the ban. It's like people think Islam is a race instead of a religion.
Slavaryia wrote:So many filthy socialists that support the extinction of their own race.

> extinction of their race.
This is a funny joke!

If you find that funny, then you clearly take nothing seriously.
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Uxupox
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Founded: Nov 13, 2014
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:03 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:It really is too bad that liberals have hijacked every pro-Islam arguement and bastardized it into something so cartoonish. Denying hardline Islam exists in great quantities in the modern Islamic community (which it fucking does),
Denying that the terrorists have anything to do with Islam (which can definatwly be legitimately argued if your holding a form of Islam that isn't theirs as a moral objective. But not so much if you consider Islam as the non Monolithic force it is)
And other absurdities.

You can't defend your religion without being viewed as a liberal/left winger now. It's bullshit. Every reasonable arguement has been memed the fuck out of by liberal """allies""". Leading to the current reality of there being no hope whatsoever for moderation.


I agree.
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Gauthier
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:03 pm

Slavaryia wrote:
Union Of Autocratic Empires wrote:I think it's kind of impossible to ban a religious group from a country, specially considering people already living in the States could convert and thus bypass the ban. It's like people think Islam is a race instead of a religion.

> extinction of their race.
This is a funny joke!

If you find that funny, then you clearly take nothing seriously.


Islam is not a race.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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