So historians don´t exist? Kay
And where are YOUR sources? YOUR experts and YOUR proof? Where is that oh wise and all knowing one?
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by United Marxist Nations » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:05 am
Azurius wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:Who are these experts?
Historians?
And who are and where are your sources? Your bible? Your belief? Start by yourself before you criticize others, as the bible famously says:
"Pull out the splinter out of your own eye before you attempt to remove it out of others."
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by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:05 am
by Laissez-Faire Economics » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:05 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Laissez-Faire Economics wrote:That isn't the first option. The first option says that we would give Muslims even easier access than anyone else. I'm talking about maintaining the system we have now.
"No, there should be no restrictions on Muslims coming in the US" is not giving muslims even easier access than anyone else.
They are getting the same option as jewish people, christian people, or any other kind of people.
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:05 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Because you yourself are also causing harm by deporting people back to a pontentially awful country, that they may have personal reasons for not wanting to say they are from there
What harm?
And just because some countries are worse doesn't mean they are entitled to come here. Refugee status is different from immigration status, though as we've seen, that too may need revisiting since hundreds of thousands of """Refugees"""" from Syria are just immigrants claiming asylum status and telling us they come from Syria.
Your policy is one of literally throwing open the doors to the entire third world.
I could accept that if they would integrate in meaningful numbers, but they do not. Why should the west be overrun and have our culture forced to conform to theirs?
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:05 am
Vedilia wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
My issue with Islamic immigrants is cultural. I don't expect religious minorities from the third world to be any better, and indeed, have already posted saying i'm fine with banning christians from the third world too.
So if they're from the land of do as you're told, hail the dictator and kill subversives, they're banned?
by Azurius » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:06 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Azurius wrote:
Historians?
And who are and where are your sources? Your bible? Your belief? Start by yourself before you criticize others, as the bible famously says:
"Pull out the splinter out of your own eye before you attempt to remove it out of others."
Give us the names of these historians.
by United Marxist Nations » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:06 am
At least 108 million people were killed in wars in the twentieth century. Estimates for the total number killed in wars throughout all of human history range from 150 million to 1 billion. War has several other effects on population, including decreasing the birthrate by taking men away from their wives. The reduced birthrate during World War II is estimated to have caused a population deficit of more than 20 million people.
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by Aelex » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:06 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:06 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
But thats not banning muslims, thats banning everyone from a country.
My issue with Islamic immigrants is cultural. I don't expect religious minorities from the third world to be any better, and indeed, have already posted saying i'm fine with banning christians from the third world too.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:06 am
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
What harm?
And just because some countries are worse doesn't mean they are entitled to come here. Refugee status is different from immigration status, though as we've seen, that too may need revisiting since hundreds of thousands of """Refugees"""" from Syria are just immigrants claiming asylum status and telling us they come from Syria.
Your policy is one of literally throwing open the doors to the entire third world.
I could accept that if they would integrate in meaningful numbers, but they do not. Why should the west be overrun and have our culture forced to conform to theirs?
Why should they be trapped in a country because they were born there?
by Yodle » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:06 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Internationalist Bastard wrote:Because you yourself are also causing harm by deporting people back to a pontentially awful country, that they may have personal reasons for not wanting to say they are from there
What harm?
And just because some countries are worse doesn't mean they are entitled to come here. Refugee status is different from immigration status, though as we've seen, that too may need revisiting since hundreds of thousands of """Refugees"""" from Syria are just immigrants claiming asylum status and telling us they come from Syria.
Your policy is one of literally throwing open the doors to the entire third world.
I could accept that if they would integrate in meaningful numbers, but they do not. Why should the west be overrun and have our culture forced to conform to theirs?
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by Vashty » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:07 am
Aelex wrote:Honestly, I would have no problems on banning arabic muslim unskilled immigration as said people proved that they're unable to be assimilated into the local culture. Christians, Jews, Yazidi and pretty much every other religious denomination don't have this problem and integrate easily so they, however, shouldn't be barred.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:07 am
Azurius wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Give us the names of these historians.
I don´t have them at hand and would need to search for them, but I can do that later.
In the meantime how about YOU show us some proof otherwise?
Also that countless wars, genocides and other ways of starving people existed in the dozens throughout history cannot be denied either.
And if so you are free to revise history completely and show us evidence that this all never happened.
by Azurius » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:07 am
United Marxist Nations wrote:Azurius wrote:
So historians don´t exist? Kay
And where are YOUR sources? YOUR experts and YOUR proof? Where is that oh wise and all knowing one?
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/books ... wanted=allAt least 108 million people were killed in wars in the twentieth century. Estimates for the total number killed in wars throughout all of human history range from 150 million to 1 billion. War has several other effects on population, including decreasing the birthrate by taking men away from their wives. The reduced birthrate during World War II is estimated to have caused a population deficit of more than 20 million people.
Who are these historians and where do they make these assertions?
by Laissez-Faire Economics » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:07 am
by United Marxist Nations » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:08 am
Azurius wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/books ... wanted=all
Who are these historians and where do they make these assertions?
Again and where is your proof to back up any of your claims?
You know kid: I got history and facts on my side here. What do you have at your side here other then your own oppinion?
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by Vashty » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:08 am
Yodle wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
What harm?
And just because some countries are worse doesn't mean they are entitled to come here. Refugee status is different from immigration status, though as we've seen, that too may need revisiting since hundreds of thousands of """Refugees"""" from Syria are just immigrants claiming asylum status and telling us they come from Syria.
Your policy is one of literally throwing open the doors to the entire third world.
I could accept that if they would integrate in meaningful numbers, but they do not. Why should the west be overrun and have our culture forced to conform to theirs?
Who said we had to conform to their culture?
by Azurius » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:08 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Azurius wrote:
I don´t have them at hand and would need to search for them, but I can do that later.
In the meantime how about YOU show us some proof otherwise?
Also that countless wars, genocides and other ways of starving people existed in the dozens throughout history cannot be denied either.
And if so you are free to revise history completely and show us evidence that this all never happened.
You've just proven you're talking out of your ass, I don't need to do anything.
by Internationalist Bastard » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:08 am
by Laissez-Faire Economics » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:08 am
Azurius wrote:United Marxist Nations wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/books ... wanted=all
Who are these historians and where do they make these assertions?
Again and where is your proof to back up any of your claims?
You know kid: I got history and facts on my side here. What do you have at your side here other then your own oppinion?
by Victoriala » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:08 am
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No. I'm not. We could give them an offer they can't refuse.
• They are forced to take psychiatric treatment. Often you can cure from a delusional disorder.
• Or we'll send them to the moon.
The religious ones killed enough people on the planet. Enough is enough.
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by Aelex » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:09 am
Azurius wrote:I don´t have them at hand and would need to search for them, but I can do that later.
In the meantime how about YOU show us some proof otherwise?
Also that countless wars, genocides and other ways of starving people existed in the dozens throughout history cannot be denied either.
And if so you are free to revise history completely and show us evidence that this all never happened.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:09 am
Azurius wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You've just proven you're talking out of your ass, I don't need to do anything.
No but okay. And the only one clearly talking out of his ass here is you. Which is why you so far provided nothing other then strawmans and insults. If not then again, you are free to cite sources and historical facts to prove me wrong.
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