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Nuclear Weapons: Your Opinion

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Do you oppose Nuclear Weapons?

No
182
50%
Yes
136
38%
Other (Please State)
44
12%
 
Total votes : 362

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Czerzkovania
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Postby Czerzkovania » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:08 am

I don't like them but the threat of human extinction has almost certainly made people think twice about starting massive wars.

I'm divided on them really.

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Equalaria
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Postby Equalaria » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:38 am

I think they are merely tools of the white patriarchy to threaten the natural peace of the world, and generally control the globe for thier genocidal, rapacious colonial gains. They are tools of mass murder, and it does not surprise me at all that white men control and threaten with these weapons. They are a scourge on humanity

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:49 am

Equalaria wrote:I think they are merely tools of the white patriarchy to threaten the natural peace of the world, and generally control the globe for thier genocidal, rapacious colonial gains. They are tools of mass murder, and it does not surprise me at all that white men control and threaten with these weapons. They are a scourge on humanity


Try a little harder dearie, this one isn't fooling anyone. :lol:
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Postby New Benian Republic » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:57 am

My opinion is that my country needs them if it is to gain respect and power in the world stage.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:01 am

Efficient high-explosives. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:05 am

New Benian Republic wrote:My opinion is that my country needs them if it is to gain respect and power in the world stage.


I assume you mean the RoI. No chance in hell.

Big Jim P wrote:Efficient high-explosives. Nothing more, nothing less.


They're a tad more complex. At least the good ones are. :p
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:20 pm

Equalaria wrote:I think they are merely tools of the white patriarchy to threaten the natural peace of the world, and generally control the globe for thier genocidal, rapacious colonial gains. They are tools of mass murder, and it does not surprise me at all that white men control and threaten with these weapons. They are a scourge on humanity

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Aterria
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Postby Aterria » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:27 pm

New Benian Republic wrote:My opinion is that my country needs them if it is to gain respect and power in the world stage.

Umm, whot?

DPRK wants nukes, who respects them?
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:29 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:My opinion is that my country needs them if it is to gain respect and power in the world stage.


I assume you mean the RoI. No chance in hell.

Big Jim P wrote:Efficient high-explosives. Nothing more, nothing less.


They're a tad more complex. At least the good ones are. :p


Complex in the building, not in the using.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:33 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
I assume you mean the RoI. No chance in hell.



They're a tad more complex. At least the good ones are. :p


Complex in the building, not in the using.
Except for the whole radiation thing
That's different
That's like saying Willy Pete is just a smoke
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Esperantujo 2
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Postby Esperantujo 2 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:33 pm

We condemn a terrorist or serial killer for killing less than a hundred people. Why should we condone the mass murder of millions of people through state terrorism? Also fallout can spread through continents and last decades.

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The Islands of Versilia
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:36 pm

They're weapons that can cause the likely extinction of our species if enough were used.
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Overall, they're terrible. No civilized nation should ever resort to using them.
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Mynockia
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Postby Mynockia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:36 pm

Mixed.

For a long term survival of humanity perspective, they're pretty dangerous. While they deter war, they also have a chance of leading to a catastrophic war which would set our development back many years. We've come awfully close to that war several times now.

However, I don't think they should (or will) be eliminated any time soon. The main nuclear powers should continue on the path of arms reduction until each nuclear power only has a minimal credible deterrent. Currently, the size of the Russian and American nuclear stockpiles is mainly driven by a desire to have parity with one another, not minimal credible deterrence. That can and should change. The great powers and the wider international community also have to work together to prevent nuclear proliferation.
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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:38 pm

Kubra wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Complex in the building, not in the using.
Except for the whole radiation thing
That's different
That's like saying Willy Pete is just a smoke


You calling Uncle Sam a liar?
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DBJ-II
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Postby DBJ-II » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:56 pm

I oppose aggressive, authoritarian states like russia or iran having them, but In the hands of lets say the US or Israel they serve a valuable purpose.

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Postby Kubra » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:57 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Kubra wrote: Except for the whole radiation thing
That's different
That's like saying Willy Pete is just a smoke


You calling Uncle Sam a liar?
lol I don't remember the US lying about its anti-personnel use
Think that was part of the appeal tbh
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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:02 pm

Kubra wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
You calling Uncle Sam a liar?
lol I don't remember the US lying about its anti-personnel use
Think that was part of the appeal tbh


The official line is that is for "clearing brush", that is what they told the media I think. If people are hiding in that brush, bad luck for them. It was a big goatfuck about that back in '09 and '04.

Edit: the official line they sold the media. It of course has many other good uses too.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:25 pm

Aterria wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:My opinion is that my country needs them if it is to gain respect and power in the world stage.

Umm, whot?

DPRK wants nukes, who respects them?

Different kind of respect methinks.

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Postby Zottistan » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:33 pm

I used to be all for them as a deterrent of traditional warfare.

Then I learned how many times the world was so, so nearly thrown into nuclear war over clouds and computer glitches. Humanity is not prepared for the responsibility. As to how one would go about global nuclear disarmament, haven't the foggiest.
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Postby Esperantujo 2 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:33 pm

DBJ-II wrote:I oppose aggressive, authoritarian states like russia or iran having them, but In the hands of lets say the US or Israel they serve a valuable purpose.

Against what nation has Iran been "aggressive"? The only war it has been involved in since WW2 is when it was attacked by Iraq. Meanwhile, US has attacked Granada, Chagos Islands, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and others, while Israel has attacked Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq.

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Postby Kubra » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:36 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Kubra wrote: lol I don't remember the US lying about its anti-personnel use
Think that was part of the appeal tbh


The official line is that is for "clearing brush", that is what they told the media I think. If people are hiding in that brush, bad luck for them. It was a big goatfuck about that back in '09 and '04.

Edit: the official line they sold the media. It of course has many other good uses too.
oh yeah they stilled use it then
Well they didn't lie in Vietnam I tell ya what
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Postby San Marlindo » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:47 pm

Get rid of them. Preferably by launching them into space and/or sending them to Venus or some similar planet unfit for human habitation. I'd love seeing what a nuclear reaction does to the place. Plus if we destroy another planet, it'll remind us to never again overestimate destroying our own.
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Postby Novus America » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:23 pm

Equalaria wrote:I think they are merely tools of the white patriarchy to threaten the natural peace of the world, and generally control the globe for thier genocidal, rapacious colonial gains. They are tools of mass murder, and it does not surprise me at all that white men control and threaten with these weapons. They are a scourge on humanity


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Postby Singaporean Transhumans » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:38 pm

DBJ-II wrote:I oppose aggressive, authoritarian states like russia or iran having them, but In the hands of lets say the US or Israel they serve a valuable purpose.

"aggressive"

"US"

stop right there mate
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:41 pm

Norseka wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:They're necessary if the other side has them.


But wouldn't that just lead to an escalation of armaments like we saw during the Cold War?


It's called deterrent for a reason.
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