Black Lives Matter: Domestic Terrorists or Freedom Fighters?

[Khadgar]

They are racist ani-cop hate group. "What do we want dead cops when do we want it NOW!-BLM

The "Dead cops" clip was from 2014. Apparently these terrorists are operating on a long schedule.

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

Neither at this point. They went from an organization that genuinely cared about their cause to now only spewing hatred and bigotry towards anyone who is different from them.

For the most part clowns.

Clowns actually know that their act is supposed to be funny.

Not so much clowns as nutjobs off their medicine at this point.

[-Fahrong-]

They should immediately be labeled terrorists for instigating instability. Hopefully a Trump victory would work to that end.

[Equalaria]

They are freedom fighters against the mainstream white establishment. Instead of waiting to die at the hands of genocidal institutions bent on killing minorities. Without such protest, status quo will remain, and we will see more innocent people of color slain in cold blood by racist authorities.

This movement highlights the white male establishment and how it has been oppressing racial and sexual minorities on mass, not to mention women. Overt rebellion is the appropriate response to such blatant attempts at mass murder, that the white patriarchy has been propagating for centuries. Some people have to rise as heroes and martyrs in these times of oppression

[Kelinfort]

Neither.

^
If I had a dime for every time I agree with Khadgar, I'd have a moderately moderate sum of money.

[Vassenor]

False dichotomy.

[Khadgar]

They should immediately be labeled terrorists for instigating instability. Hopefully a Trump victory would work to that end.

What a marvelously vague charge that can be used to lock up any of your political opponents and declare them terrorists. Actually precisely what I expect of a Trump administration, he did express his admiration for Saddam Hussein you know.

[Freefall11111]

Neither. They're a well-intentioned yet often misguided (dangerously so in some cases) protest movement.

Basically. If they actually started coordinating terror attacks (which would require them to coordinate on a large scale, rather than being a bunch of local groups), then they'd be terrorists.

[The balkens]

They are freedom fighters against the mainstream white establishment. Instead of waiting to die at the hands of genocidal institutions bent on killing minorities. Without such protest, status quo will remain, and we will see more innocent people of color slain in cold blood by racist authorities.

This movement highlights the white male establishment and how it has been oppressing racial and sexual minorities on mass, not to mention women. Overt rebellion is the appropriate response to such blatant attempts at mass murder, that the white patriarchy has been propagating for centuries. Some people have to rise as heroes and martyrs in these times of oppression

Ive been to the camps, they have no Wifi.

[MERIZoC]

They should immediately be labeled terrorists for instigating instability. Hopefully a Trump victory would work to that end.

Bad tightrope walkers instigate instability but I don't see you calling them terrorists. These double standards man, I tell you.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

They're not terrorists for the simple reason that terrorism has a definition, and they do not meet it. Youtube videos and rants do not count as actively using violence, intimidation or threats in service of a political agenda.

[Teryia]

I recommend this article.


http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/08/no- ... ting-cops/

I recommend you use your own arguments, not some article's argument.

Neither. They're a well-intentioned yet often misguided (dangerously so in some cases) protest movement.

Basically. If they actually started coordinating terror attacks (which would require them to coordinate on a large scale, rather than being a bunch of local groups), then they'd be terrorists.

Terrorism isn't always about precise coordinated attacks. Actually that could lead to patterns which leads to them being stopped. Terrorism is the act of causing fear as a method to push a point or objective. That's exactly what BLM is doing; using fear tactics to prove they're right.

They are freedom fighters against the mainstream white establishment.

There is no "white establishment." The U.S. has a black president.
Unless he's the leader of the white establishment, you're wrong here.

more innocent people of color slain in cold blood by racist authorities.

I pray you jest. I also pray you realize that a black cop was killed in the Baton Rogue Shooting. Unless he's racist, you're also wrong here as well.

not to mention women

Don't mention them, we aren't discussing women here.

Some people have to rise as heroes and martyrs in these times of oppression

The word "martyr' here in particular frightens me. None of the shooters that killed dozens of innocent lives shall ever be remember, rather they will be erased from history. They are not heroes. They killed innocents. They are monsters.

[The balkens]

They're not terrorists for the simple reason that terrorism has a definition, and they do not meet it. Youtube videos and rants do not count as actively using violence, intimidation or threats in service of a political agenda.

I mean, Baltimore and Ferguson spontaneously combusted.

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

Overt rebellion is the appropriate response to such blatant attempts at mass murder, that the white patriarchy has been propagating for centuries. Some people have to rise as heroes and martyrs in these times of oppression

It depends on how overt.

Is it merely mass protest over the actions of others? Then I'd call it more of a wide scale public demonstration rather than a rebellion.

Is it causing death and chaos just to get a perverse point across? Then not only is it terrorism, you're no better than the officers that shoot unarmed black people for ludicrous reasons.



If you are willing to start riots in the name of fighting the white patriarchy, then you are no better than the white patriarchy you claim to be fighting against.

They should immediately be labeled terrorists for instigating instability. Hopefully a Trump victory would work to that end.

Bad tightrope walkers instigate instability but I don't see you calling them terrorists. These double standards man, I tell you.

Slippery slopes are a bitch. *nod*

[Teryia]

They're not terrorists for the simple reason that terrorism has a definition, and they do not meet it. Youtube videos and rants do not count as actively using violence, intimidation or threats in service of a political agenda.

You're right, the rants and videos don't make them terrorist. The acts of shootings, arsony, riots, stabbings, and death threats are terrorism. The BLM does all the terrorist acts to be defined as...well terrorists.

[Teryia]

They're not terrorists for the simple reason that terrorism has a definition, and they do not meet it. Youtube videos and rants do not count as actively using violence, intimidation or threats in service of a political agenda.

I mean, Baltimore and Ferguson spontaneously combusted.

Totally not terrorists..no..no...

(Blatant sarcasm)

[Maurepas]

I recommend this article.


http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/08/no- ... ting-cops/

I recommend you use your own arguments, not some article's argument.

Lolwut?

[Khadgar]

I recommend you use your own arguments, not some article's argument.

Lolwut?

You're not allowed to cite anything.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

They're not terrorists for the simple reason that terrorism has a definition, and they do not meet it. Youtube videos and rants do not count as actively using violence, intimidation or threats in service of a political agenda.

I mean, Baltimore and Ferguson spontaneously combusted.

Not caused or instigated by BLM.

They're not terrorists for the simple reason that terrorism has a definition, and they do not meet it. Youtube videos and rants do not count as actively using violence, intimidation or threats in service of a political agenda.

You're right, the rants and videos don't make them terrorist. The acts of shootings, arsony, riots, stabbings, and death threats are terrorism. The BLM does all the terrorist acts to be defined as...well terrorists.

There's nothing to my knowledge that ties either of the two shootings being directly coordinated by BLM. Ergo not terrorism. That's the thing - we're talking about labeling the BLM movement as a terrorist group. Riots or arson or death threats that happen independently of the BLM's control are, well, beyond their control.

[Dragonia Re Xzua]

I mean, Baltimore and Ferguson spontaneously combusted.

Not caused or instigated by BLM.

You're right, the rants and videos don't make them terrorist. The acts of shootings, arsony, riots, stabbings, and death threats are terrorism. The BLM does all the terrorist acts to be defined as...well terrorists.

There's nothing to my knowledge that ties either of the two shootings being directly coordinated by BLM. Ergo not terrorism. That's the thing - we're talking about labeling the BLM movement as a terrorist group. Riots or arson or death threats that happen independently of the BLM's control are, well, beyond their control.

"It's not terrorism if BLM does it." - you

[The balkens]

I mean, Baltimore and Ferguson spontaneously combusted.

Not caused or instigated by BLM.

You're right, the rants and videos don't make them terrorist. The acts of shootings, arsony, riots, stabbings, and death threats are terrorism. The BLM does all the terrorist acts to be defined as...well terrorists.

There's nothing to my knowledge that ties either of the two shootings being directly coordinated by BLM. Ergo not terrorism. That's the thing - we're talking about labeling the BLM movement as a terrorist group. Riots or arson or death threats that happen independently of the BLM's control are, well, beyond their control.

heh

[Unified Heartless States]

There have only been two attacks of note, though if it continues then domestic terrorists would be an accurate label.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

"It's not terrorism if BLM does it." - you

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? Terrorist groups actively plan and utilize violence in service of their political agendas. Al Qaeda and Daesh plan bombings. Maoist rebels in India and the Philippines kidnap people and hold them for ransom. There is no evidence that BLM as an organization is orchestrating violence to any degree. Therefore it is not a terrorist organization.

[Teryia]

Lolwut?

You're not allowed to cite anything.

No, I just won't want to read another article and try to refute that instead of the person's argument. Common sense.

There have only been two attacks of note, though if it continues then domestic terrorists would be an accurate label.

Not quite, remember the Baltimore and Ferguson riots? Add two more to the tally.

[Teryia]

I mean, Baltimore and Ferguson spontaneously combusted.

Not caused or instigated by BLM.

You're right, the rants and videos don't make them terrorist. The acts of shootings, arsony, riots, stabbings, and death threats are terrorism. The BLM does all the terrorist acts to be defined as...well terrorists.

There's nothing to my knowledge that ties either of the two shootings being directly coordinated by BLM. Ergo not terrorism. That's the thing - we're talking about labeling the BLM movement as a terrorist group. Riots or arson or death threats that happen independently of the BLM's control are, well, beyond their control.

We have the riots, the stabbing in the UK, road blocks performed by BLM members confirmed, arsony, and death threats that all came from BLM. This is all endorsed and committed by BLM members. Just like other terrorist groups, you don't have to be a killer to be apart of the action. Supporting, funding, etc. all promotes and helps support the terrorism.