by Shamhnan Insir » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:10 am
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by Costa Fierro » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:18 am
by Shamhnan Insir » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:19 am
Alvecia wrote:Interesting.
Out of curiosity, has this ever occured before? Not Russia specifically, but a country being barred from one, several, or all events.
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by Jochizyd Republic » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:37 am
by Costa Fierro » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:38 am
Jochizyd Republic wrote:The Olympics shouldn't be used this way unless the athletes are a terrorist threat.
by Shofercia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:21 pm
Shamhnan Insir wrote:It would appear that after lengthy investigations and court procedures, Russia has been banned from participating in track and field events at the Rio 2016 Olympics.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/36855244
Further allegations of state sponsored doping are yet to be fully investigated which threaten total ban from all Olympic participation, however the initial ruling is already pretty damning. The IAAF has welcomed the ruling which it supported, with Lord Coe expressing is disappointment that the situation had become so serious.
Personally I'm quite happy that the Cas committee and the IAAF have taken such a strong course of action over this. Recently the shadow of doping rumours, claims and bans has tarnished the world of athletics and quite frankly little serious action seemed to have been taken.
Whilst it still has its problems, I'm glad that something has been done in the Olympic athlete world to show that cheating and corruption will not be tolerated regardless of who you are, unlike in FIFA for example.
What say you NSG? Was the ruling correct, is the punishment to harsh, do you feel sorry for Putin who will be throwing his toys out the pram?
In a dark-of-night operation, Russian antidoping experts and members of the intelligence service surreptitiously replaced urine samples tainted by performance-enhancing drugs with clean urine collected months earlier, somehow breaking into the supposedly tamper-proof bottles that are the standard at international competitions, Dr. Rodchenkov said. For hours each night, they worked in a shadow laboratory lit by a single lamp, passing bottles of urine through a hand-size hole in the wall, to be ready for testing the next day, he said.
None of the athletes were caught doping. More important, Russia won the most medals of the Games, easily surpassing its main rival, the United States, and undermining the integrity of one of the world’s most prestigious sporting events...
One important fact that escaped most international observers was that a media campaign, which had begun shortly after the 2014 deep freeze in Russian-Western relations, was constructed around the “testimonies” of three Russian citizens who were all interconnected and complicit in a string of doping scandals, and who later left Russia and are trying to make new lives in the West... In 2013 Marina Rodchenkova – Gregory Rodchenkov’s sister – was found guilty and received a sentence for selling anabolic steroids to athletes. Her brother was also the subject of a criminal investigation into charges that he supplied banned drugs. Threatened with prosecution, Gregory Rodchenkov began to behave oddly and was repeatedly hospitalized and “subjected to a forensic psychiatric examination.”
A finding was later submitted to the court, claiming that Rodchenkov suffered from “schizotypal personality disorder,” exacerbated by stress. As a result, all the charges against Rodchenkov were dropped. But the most surprising thing was that someone with a “schizotypal personality disorder” and a sister convicted of trafficking in performance-enhancing drugs continued as the director of Russia’s only WADA-accredited anti-doping laboratory. In fact, he held this job during the 2014 Olympics. Rodchenkov was not dismissed until the fall of 2015, after the eruption of the scandal that had been instigated by the broadcaster ARD and the Stepanovs. In September 2015 the WADA Commission accused Rodchenkov of intentionally destroying over a thousand samples in order to conceal doping by Russian athletes. He personally denied all the charges, but then resigned and left for the US where he was warmly embraced by filmmaker Bryan Fogel, who was shooting yet another made-to-order documentary about doping in Russia.
Let’s take a look at another lover of clean sport cited by Mr. Tygart, Canadian cross-country Olympian Beckie Scott. Beckie Scott won the bronze medal for Canada in 2002, finishing behind two Russians – Olga Danilova and Larissa Lazutina – who tested positive for a banned substance, darbpoetin. They were stripped of their medals, and they deserved to be. But you can sort of see why Beckie Scott might kind of have it in for Russia, since she reasons that Russians cheated her out of a gold medal, and why she is demanding that the WADA board expand its investigation to all sports in Russia; something which is completely unprecedented. How does darbpoetin work, anyway? It boosts red blood cell production. How does blood doping work? It increases red blood cell count. What’s the difference? Well, one is ‘an abomination’, and the other is a “Shhh!! You saw nothing!!”
“This is an abomination”, Beckie thundered, to a tumultuous ovation from the western crowd, speaking of the accusations by Russian ‘whistle-blowers’ of endemic doping in Russia. I don’t remember her even bringing up the use of blood doping, which has exactly the same effect as darbpoetin, to unethically win medals. But the American athletes who confessed to blood doping were not stripped of their medals, and it is unlikely they ever will be. Because blood doping was not illegal until the following year.
by Shofercia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:23 pm
by Nearly Finland » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:25 pm
by Geilinor » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:25 pm
Shofercia wrote:
I say that WADA are a bunch racist pigs.
by -Fahrong- » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:25 pm
by Dragonia Re Xzua » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:25 pm
The balkens wrote:Wow, any evidence?
by Gatito » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:28 pm
by Geilinor » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:30 pm
Gatito wrote:I'm going to bet that the rest of the athletes are doping as well, but this is just a way for the west to do antagonizing towards Russia since they're pretty much incapable of doing it in places that it actually matters.
by Gatito » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:32 pm
Geilinor wrote:Gatito wrote:I'm going to bet that the rest of the athletes are doping as well, but this is just a way for the west to do antagonizing towards Russia since they're pretty much incapable of doing it in places that it actually matters.
Do you seriously believe that the Olympics are a Western-controlled plot? This type of nationalism is going too far.
by Rio Cana » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:33 pm
by -Fahrong- » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:34 pm
Geilinor wrote:Gatito wrote:I'm going to bet that the rest of the athletes are doping as well, but this is just a way for the west to do antagonizing towards Russia since they're pretty much incapable of doing it in places that it actually matters.
Do you seriously believe that the Olympics are a Western-controlled plot? This type of paranoid nationalism is going too far.
by The first Galactic Republic » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:34 pm
Jochizyd Republic wrote:The Olympics shouldn't be used this way unless the athletes are a terrorist threat.
by Tulais » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:38 pm
by Geilinor » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:38 pm
-Fahrong- wrote:Geilinor wrote:Do you seriously believe that the Olympics are a Western-controlled plot? This type of paranoid nationalism is going too far.
Umm, Russia just got banned by accusations almost entirely fermented in the US and Canada. How have the olympics not been hijacked by western foreign policy? You can try waving off everything we say as paranoid if you want to avoid actual discussion though.
by Shofercia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:39 pm
by Gatito » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:40 pm
Tulais wrote:Too be honest, from what I've been hearing, they won't be missing much in regards to this olympics.
In all seriousness being banned from events because you break the organization's rules seems pretty fair.
by Gatito » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:41 pm
Geilinor wrote:-Fahrong- wrote:Umm, Russia just got banned by accusations almost entirely fermented in the US and Canada. How have the olympics not been hijacked by western foreign policy? You can try waving off everything we say as paranoid if you want to avoid actual discussion though.
I want proof that WADA has political motivations.
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