US GENERAL ELECTION MEGA-THREAD II: Clinton vs. Trump

[Trumpostan]

I was thinking that America was named after Amerigo Vespucci. I think we should call it Trumpia because Amerigo is only for those Italians and there anti-Christ Pope.

Trumpfland. That's what we should call it.

Trumpfland, Trumpfland over all else
Over all else in da World!
...

I was thinking of Scamdinavia... or maybe Conlandia.

[Lady Scylla]

The Poltical Compass is controlled by a group of left wing UK political scientists who worship Jeremy Corbyn.

Ficks'd.

Phiqs'd

[Gauthier]

And then a few days later Erickson dies under "Mysterious Circumstances".

That's only if you go against the Clinton's.

So ummmmmm... Why are Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump still alive then?

[Lady Scylla]

And if Johnson is basically an authoritarian, what the hell do you have to do to register on the libertarian side of things?

If Johnson actually went on there and took their quiz, he'd probably come out much further down than where they put him.

I think Johnson and I belong pretty close to each other on the vertical axis, but last time I took the quiz, it put me at -5.7 on the libertarian side. So Johnson probably belongs around -5 or -6, and they just didn't put him there because they have a grudge against the Libertarian Party and don't want to admit it's actually libertarian.

I'm going to have to take this quiz now to see what it's gonna do with me.

[Trumpostan]

That's only if you go against the Clinton's.

So ummmmmm... Why are Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump still alive then?

And where are all these internment/FEMA camps for conservative christians we've been promised for so long. I cannot begin to tell you how YUUGE my disappointment is.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You know, someone should really point out how useless a wall is as a political ad or in these speeches, but I'm guessing that they don't really want to make it obvious that boarders don't work in a non landlocked nation, because presumably the DNC doesn't want people to just entirely come walking in, either.

Both parties believe illegal immigration is a problem.

The only thing that differs is how stupid their ideas are.

One thinks only amnesty works, the other side mass deportation and a huge fucking wall.

The solution is somewhere in the middle. We need border security for sure, but we can't just deport 12 million people.

[Gauthier]

I was thinking that America was named after Amerigo Vespucci. I think we should call it Trumpia because Amerigo is only for those Italians and there anti-Christ Pope.

Trumpfland. That's what we should call it.

Trumpfland, Trumpfland over all else
Over all else in da World!
...

Don't forget the Hair Salute. Sieg Hair!

[Conserative Morality]

That's only if you go against the Clinton's.

The only thing that dies in opposition to the Clintons is political careers.

[Valrifell]

That's only if you go against the Clinton's.

So ummmmmm... Why are Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump still alive then?

Don't you see? They're part of the plan to make it seem Clinton isn't in the absolute control that we know she's in. Why she's running for president if she already has this power? Reasons, I assure you.

So ummmmmm... Why are Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump still alive then?

And where are all these internment/FEMA camps for conservative christians we've been promised for so long. I cannot begin to tell you how YUUGE my disappointment is.

There's still three months or so for that plan to activate.

[Lady Scylla]

You know, someone should really point out how useless a wall is as a political ad or in these speeches, but I'm guessing that they don't really want to make it obvious that boarders don't work in a non landlocked nation, because presumably the DNC doesn't want people to just entirely come walking in, either.

Both parties believe illegal immigration is a problem.

The only thing that differs is how stupid their ideas are.

One thinks only amnesty works, the other side mass deportation and a huge fucking wall.

The solution is somewhere in the middle. We need border security for sure, but we can't just deport 12 million people.

Did you see my suggestion?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Both parties believe illegal immigration is a problem.

The only thing that differs is how stupid their ideas are.

One thinks only amnesty works, the other side mass deportation and a huge fucking wall.

The solution is somewhere in the middle. We need border security for sure, but we can't just deport 12 million people.

Did you see my suggestion?

I did. I'll answer to it in a moment.

[PaNTuXIa]

Since almost no one bothered to read my essay on why Donald Trump will win, I'll post it again, this time shorter.

Hillary Clinton's continued corruption of the democratic process has created a rift between her and Bernie supporters. Many Republicans who voted for Bernie will now vote Johnson or Trump. Millennials are looking towards Stein. This will act as a spoiler in states that rely on young liberals to keep the state blue, such as Florida and Pennsylvania. Ohio, Iowa and North Carolina all suffer from the effects of neoliberal trade deals such as NAFTA, GATT, and TPP. This will empower Trump. And with the continued terror attacks, Trump will appeal to religious fundamentalists, as well as with his VP pick.

My prediction as of now has Trump at about 55-60% chance of winning, while Clinton is at 40-45%.

[Trumpostan]

And where are all these internment/FEMA camps for conservative christians we've been promised for so long. I cannot begin to tell you how YUUGE my disappointment is.

There's still three months or so for that plan to activate.

So you're saying there's a chance

The GOP pulls of their win with Trump in november, and then *BAM* off to the camps they go, and Barack is named president for life with Hillary as prime minister Erdogan style.

Nice

[PaNTuXIa]

Also, did anyone else hear the guy who shouted "No more TPP!" last night during Obama's speech?

[Nariterrr]

Also, did anyone else hear the guy who shouted "No more TPP!" last night during Obama's speech?

Yes, I did.

[USS Monitor]

Clearly, the USS Monitor is nothing but a commie ship.

Anyone spotted Comrade Monitor with a red turret already?

No, because I don't want to be mistaken for a Republican ship. That would be very embarrassing.

[Lady Scylla]

Anyone spotted Comrade Monitor with a red turret already?

No, because I don't want to be mistaken for a Republican ship. That would be very embarrassing.

Whatever you say, Ol' Scarlet Sides.

[MERIZoC]

And if Johnson is basically an authoritarian, what the hell do you have to do to register on the libertarian side of things?

If Johnson actually went on there and took their quiz, he'd probably come out much further down than where they put him.

I think Johnson and I belong pretty close to each other on the vertical axis, but last time I took the quiz, it put me at -5.7 on the libertarian side. So Johnson probably belongs around -5 or -6, and they just didn't put him there because they have a grudge against the Libertarian Party and don't want to admit it's actually libertarian.

Out of curiosity, I took the test with the framework of my best guess of what his views/answers would be. Got Economic Left/Right: 9.75, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38.

[Trumpostan]

Also, did anyone else hear the guy who shouted "No more TPP!" last night during Obama's speech?

Yes, I did.

More than once, I believe.

[The Romulan Republic]

Since almost no one bothered to read my essay on why Donald Trump will win, I'll post it again, this time shorter.

Hillary Clinton's continued corruption of the democratic process has created a rift between her and Bernie supporters. Many Republicans who voted for Bernie will now vote Johnson or Trump. Millennials are looking towards Stein. This will act as a spoiler in states that rely on young liberals to keep the state blue, such as Florida and Pennsylvania. Ohio, Iowa and North Carolina all suffer from the effects of neoliberal trade deals such as NAFTA, GATT, and TPP. This will empower Trump. And with the continued terror attacks, Trump will appeal to religious fundamentalists, as well as with his VP pick.

My prediction as of now has Trump at about 55-60% chance of winning, while Clinton is at 40-45%.

The majority of Bernie supporters are behind Clinton. You are treating your personal attitudes as universal, projecting them onto others.

You are falsely attempting to undermine Clinton and encourage low voter turnout in what appears to be an effort to help hand the country to a bullying bigot and possible Russian puppet.

I mean, Jesus, people are so blinded by single-minded hate for Clinton that they're prepared to help sell out our democracy to a foreign despot rather than have her as President?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Personally, I think the laws should be relaxed. Immigrants that can't afford to go through the process should be given a chance with certain requirements. They need to: Pass a criminal background check, be vaccinated, pay taxes, and they must find a job whether through assistance from the unemployment office, or of their own volition. From there, they can wait to apply for full citizenship until they're stable enough to do so, and be allowed to send money back home to their families. If they fail any of these requirements, they will be deported.

I feel doing this will reduce the likelihood of illegal immigrants getting into crime, while giving them a chance for a better life, and will help them become contributors to society.

I am thinking that you just can't let illegal immigrants come in after all that without documentation.

I am all for a retry of something like the Bracero program under different terms, though.

[Ifreann]

I was thinking that America was named after Amerigo Vespucci. I think we should call it Trumpia because Amerigo is only for those Italians and there anti-Christ Pope.

Trumpfland. That's what we should call it.

Trumpfland, Trumpfland over all else
Over all else in da World!
...

Catchy. Trump should copyright it, so he can sue anyone who tries to steal it.

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Ficks'd.

Phiqs'd

This explains everything

[Gauthier]

Yes, I did.

More than once, I believe.

Someone hoping the country collapses just for the privilege of smugly pronouncing "I Told You So."

[Corrian]

Since almost no one bothered to read my essay on why Donald Trump will win, I'll post it again, this time shorter.

Hillary Clinton's continued corruption of the democratic process has created a rift between her and Bernie supporters. Many Republicans who voted for Bernie will now vote Johnson or Trump. Millennials are looking towards Stein. This will act as a spoiler in states that rely on young liberals to keep the state blue, such as Florida and Pennsylvania. Ohio, Iowa and North Carolina all suffer from the effects of neoliberal trade deals such as NAFTA, GATT, and TPP. This will empower Trump. And with the continued terror attacks, Trump will appeal to religious fundamentalists, as well as with his VP pick.

My prediction as of now has Trump at about 55-60% chance of winning, while Clinton is at 40-45%.

Thankfully reality says otherwise currently.

Also, did anyone else hear the guy who shouted "No more TPP!" last night during Obama's speech?

Yup. Heard someone being disrespectful while the president was speaking. Glad he seems to have been taken out or something.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Since almost no one bothered to read my essay on why Donald Trump will win, I'll post it again, this time shorter.

Hillary Clinton's continued corruption of the democratic process has created a rift between her and Bernie supporters. Many Republicans who voted for Bernie will now vote Johnson or Trump. Millennials are looking towards Stein. This will act as a spoiler in states that rely on young liberals to keep the state blue, such as Florida and Pennsylvania. Ohio, Iowa and North Carolina all suffer from the effects of neoliberal trade deals such as NAFTA, GATT, and TPP. This will empower Trump. And with the continued terror attacks, Trump will appeal to religious fundamentalists, as well as with his VP pick.

My prediction as of now has Trump at about 55-60% chance of winning, while Clinton is at 40-45%.

The problem with Stein is that she's unrelentingly leftist. To the point of being idealistic.

She might have a pull on certain states, but I don't think this is something that will spoil the millennial vote, particularly among immigrant millennials.