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Postby New Jerzylvania » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:15 pm

Gauthier wrote:
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Wild West abortions? What's that?


That's where a lynching party ties one end of a rope to the fetus and hangs it over a tree branch, ties the other end to a horse and then spur the horse on.


Oh. That's the way they pulled out my Baby teeth too.

I guess this here means Texit now. Texit charges may apply.
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Postby Kernen » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:35 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
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That's where a lynching party ties one end of a rope to the fetus and hangs it over a tree branch, ties the other end to a horse and then spur the horse on.


Oh. That's the way they pulled out my Baby teeth too.

I guess this here means Texit now. Texit charges may apply.

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Postby Pol Lunar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:36 pm

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Nope. A person wishing to control their own body needs only their own consent.


This issue at hand is whether someone's control over their own body should be taken away without consent (the anti-choice position) or whether that right should be respected (the pro-choice position)


Again, :rofl:

No. You seem to have completely forgotten the Child whom is the center of all these debates. Its not weather or not someone should have control over their own body, it's whether or not they have should have the right to kill someone who has come about of no fault of their own. Also, I love how you call Pro-life anti-choice. I think that bit of propaganda is priceless. Although, not as good as calling Pro-Choice Pro-Death.

If we were dealing strictly and only with one and only person, then their would be no debate, but we are not. There are two persons in the mix, and the Pro-Death supporters wish for the more helpless person to be killed on principle.


You're being disingenuous. I didn't call pro-life anti-choice. I pointed out that when discussing prohibitions on abortion, the line of conflict is between the pro and anti choice sides.

Pro or anti choice doesn't say how a person personally feels about abortion...it is about whether a person feels they should interfere in the personal choice of others

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Postby Tekeristan » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:43 pm

Abortions are inherently bad, m'kay?

But..

It is better to have it legal than not.
People are either going to have the dangerous back alley ones - or they're going to have it done by medical professionals in a clean facility.

Either way, it's going to happen - so why not have the safe route that will result in less crime and developed human harm?

That being said..

No one wants more of em.

Soo...

Expand sex education and expand accessibility of contraceptives and you cut a large chunk out of abortion entirely.

EDIT
Should add I'm inherently pro.. I support the mother out of all of this as it is her body and it can severely change her life style..

ANYHOW! Good for Texas.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:47 am

Gauthier wrote:This is great news, as the Supreme Court decision shuts down future attempts in red states to engineer back door bans on abortions. Legalizing gay marriage and now this, all that's needed for a hat trick is for them to strike down bathroom bills as unconstitutional.
Indeed, it is great news. Although for some reason I have this mental picture of mommy and daddy SCOTUS spanking baby state government for being naughty ickle legislators.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:29 am

Galloism wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Abortion demands a fetus is present, not a child. When you're pregnant you don't say "Hey, check out my kid".

Until the day see-through skin/organ grafts are invented, so you can see the inside of the womb like it's a fishbowl.

That sounds disgusting, humans are disgusting.

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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:34 am

Genivaria wrote:
Galloism wrote:Until the day see-through skin/organ grafts are invented, so you can see the inside of the womb like it's a fishbowl.

That sounds disgusting, humans are disgusting.

It's a natural process. Plus imagine the learning opportunities!
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:39 am

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That sounds disgusting, humans are disgusting.

It's a natural process. Plus imagine the learning opportunities!


I'd rather be able to look into their hearts and see their souls. That would be the defining learning opportunity that beats any other.
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Postby Godular » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:43 am

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's a natural process. Plus imagine the learning opportunities!


I'd rather be able to look into their hearts and see their souls. That would be the defining learning opportunity that beats any other.


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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:48 am

Godular wrote:
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I'd rather be able to look into their hearts and see their souls. That would be the defining learning opportunity that beats any other.


I can do this thing.

I always see squirrels.


Never saw a squirrel that I didn't like, except those of the road kill victim variety.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:43 am

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That sounds disgusting, humans are disgusting.

It's a natural process. Plus imagine the learning opportunities!


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Postby Godular » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:14 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's a natural process. Plus imagine the learning opportunities!


Even better: Anatomy Porn


I've heard of going deep, but that might be taking it tooooooooo far.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:29 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That sounds disgusting, humans are disgusting.

It's a natural process. Plus imagine the learning opportunities!

So is death, that's gross to.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:43 pm

Woohooo! I remember watching the live stream of Wendy Davis for fucking hourrrssss, cheering her on from Tennessee. With rights being taken from women every damn day in different states, this is a major victory, especially for Texas women.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:45 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Galloism wrote:Until the day see-through skin/organ grafts are invented, so you can see the inside of the womb like it's a fishbowl.

That sounds disgusting, humans are disgusting.

unless you're me and have a thing for pregnancy
then it's fucking glorious
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:48 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That sounds disgusting, humans are disgusting.

unless you're me and have a thing for pregnancy
then it's fucking glorious

'Have a thing for pregnancy'.
What does that mean?

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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:49 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:unless you're me and have a thing for pregnancy
then it's fucking glorious

'Have a thing for pregnancy'.
What does that mean?


Closely related to rule 34, but not yet encoded into the rules. If it exists, there's a fetish of it.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:50 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:'Have a thing for pregnancy'.
What does that mean?


Closely related to rule 34, but not yet encoded into the rules. If it exists, there's a fetish of it.

Oh dear god...

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:00 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:unless you're me and have a thing for pregnancy
then it's fucking glorious

'Have a thing for pregnancy'.
What does that mean?

Man where are all the creepy kinky emojis when you need them
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:05 pm

Ceolophysia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Anti-Abortion Law HB 2

Striking a decisive blow against back door abortion bans in the State of Texas, the United States Supreme Court has ruled that House Bill 2- which required abortion providers to have admitting privileges to a hospital within 30 miles and required abortion clinics to meet surgical center standards- placed unfair burden on women and struck the bill down.



This is great news, as the Supreme Court decision shuts down future attempts in red states to engineer back door bans on abortions. Legalizing gay marriage and now this, all that's needed for a hat trick is for them to strike down bathroom bills as unconstitutional.

This is horrible! If you don't want a child, then don't do 'it' in the first place!

If you're too immature to say "have sex" then you're too immature to debate abortion.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:06 pm

Ceolophysia wrote:This is horrible! If you don't want a child, then don't do 'it' in the first place!

Why do you want people to die sooner?
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:07 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ceolophysia wrote:This is horrible! If you don't want a child, then don't do 'it' in the first place!

Why do you want people to die sooner?


Voluntary Extinctioner?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:09 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Galloism wrote:Why do you want people to die sooner?


Voluntary Extinctioner?

I, uhm, think that's not how that's going to work out, yaknowwhatimsayin?
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