Gun Laws Megathread [0.1]

[Thyvor]

On the NationStates forums, I see a ton of different people. You get the 'Father Knows Best States' kind of people, who are pro-guns, you get the 'Left Wing Utopia' kind of people, who are normally anti-guns, and you get the 'Inoffensive Centrist Democracy' kind of people, who, in all honesty, from one post, it's kind of hard to tell what kind of stance they have on gun laws. And in spite of all the gun-related threads such as the Orlando nightclub shootings, the 'Dear Mr. President' assault weapon discussions and all the various... well, all the various gun stuff posts, I thought I'd make one general discussion thread.

So what are your thoughts on guns? Should they be outlawed for the safety? Or should they be kept for safety?

I know lots of you have different opinions; my personal opinion is that you should require a strict license after psychological and physical tests which prove that you have the emotional and physical stability to hold a gun and not... well, y'know. I guess we don't joke about that kind of stuff.

Let me know what you think, I'm interested. And please, explain, no answers like, 'yes' or 'ur gay'.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Overturn the NFA, import laws and Hughes Amendment. Dismantle the ATF and roll it into the FBI. Rebuild NICS from the ground up to be more accurate and speedy. Require background checks on all sales including private sales through a publicly available version of said system. Put a greater emphasis on mental healthcare and possibly bring back involuntary committing for those found to be dangerous by qualified professionals.

[Khadgar]

Oh another gun thread. I was just thinking we needed a fifth one.

[Big Jim P]

Mark the IDs of the disqualified, Constitutional Carry nation-wide, Mandatory increase in sentences for crimes involving guns (3x, 4x, whatever it takes) and eliminating plea-bargaining, parole or time off for good behavior for the same.

[Capitalistfreedom]

I would support a ban on handguns and military style semi-automatic rifles. Criminal and mental health background checks, licencing for purchase of ordinary hunting rifles and shotguns. There should also be a limit on the number of guns and ammunition, people don't need thousands of bullets and more than a couple of guns. Most mass shooters seem to fit the unemployed, basement dwelling loser stereotype so there should be a minimum net worth requirement of $100,000 to own guns. Switzerland forbids foreigners from certain countries to own guns, this would also be a good idea.

[The balkens]

I would support a ban on handguns and military style semi-automatic rifles. Criminal and mental health background checks, licencing for purchase of ordinary hunting rifles and shotguns. There should also be a limit on the number of guns and ammunition, people don't need thousands of bullets and more than a couple of guns. Most mass shooters seem to fit the unemployed, basement dwelling loser stereotype so there should be a minimum net worth requirement of $100,000 to own guns. Switzerland forbids foreigners from certain countries to own guns, this would also be a good idea.

no.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Yay, ANOTHER gun thread. What does this make, 4 active topics with at least a tenuous link to the subject of firearms?

BTW, I'll give you three guesses what my stance on firearms laws are.

[Geilinor]

In recent news, the Supreme Court has refused to hear challenges to state assault weapons bans. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/assault-weapons-ban-supreme-court-224538

[The balkens]

In recent news, the Supreme Court has refused to hear challenges to state assault weapons bans. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/assault-weapons-ban-supreme-court-224538

morons.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I would support a ban on handguns and military style semi-automatic rifles. Criminal and mental health background checks, licencing for purchase of ordinary hunting rifles and shotguns. There should also be a limit on the number of guns and ammunition, people don't need thousands of bullets and more than a couple of guns. Most mass shooters seem to fit the unemployed, basement dwelling loser stereotype so there should be a minimum net worth requirement of $100,000 to own guns. Switzerland forbids foreigners from certain countries to own guns, this would also be a good idea.

That is seriously the stupidest thing I've read this week. Why should ONLY rich people be allowed to target shoot, hunt, collect, or defend themselves/others/their property?

I have THOUSANDS of rounds of .22lr, because it's so cheap and easy to shoot, as well as the fact that I own 2 firearms that use it. I also have hundreds of rounds each of 9mm, .45ACP, .223/5.56mm, .308, and 12 gauge.

[Gun Manufacturers]

In recent news, the Supreme Court has refused to hear challenges to state assault weapons bans. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/assault-weapons-ban-supreme-court-224538

morons.

It's probably because there isn't a replacement for Scalia. I bet they're anticipating a 4-4 decision, which means all the case will do is waste time/money.

[Washington Resistance Army]

In recent news, the Supreme Court has refused to hear challenges to state assault weapons bans. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/assault-weapons-ban-supreme-court-224538

It would be 4-4 and a waste, this is actually good news for us atm.

[Dinake]

As far as I'm concerned, if you're not psychotic(actually psychotic, not just any mental illness), don't have a record of violent crime(actual violent crime, not parking tickets or drug possession), and are over eighteen(substitute in local age of majority as appropriate), buy whatever you want. Carrying should require a license(a shall issue license), and if it's a more powerful weapon- automatics, explosive rounds, >50 cal, etc.- you should be required to get a license just so you can know what you're getting yourself into.
Anything more than that, other than safe storage, is just excessive.

[Big Jim P]

BREAKING NEWS!!!

ALL FOUR PROPOSED BILLS FOR "GUN CONTROL" HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BEEN BLOCKED! They failed to reach (even closely apparently) majority vote.

Seeing this live on my local news, will post a link when I can.

w00t!

I bet the gun-grabbers are having conniptions!

[Freefall11111]

Oh another gun thread. I was just thinking we needed a fifth one.

It never ends, does it?

[Big Jim P]

Oh another gun thread. I was just thinking we needed a fifth one.

It never ends, does it?

I suggested a merge and possibly a megathread in Moderation.

[Freefall11111]

It never ends, does it?

I suggested a merge and possibly a megathread in Moderation.

That would be ideal.

[United Dependencies]

Strengthen the ATF, allow the CDC to study gun-violence, possibly consider lengthening the waiting period.

We definitely need better tracking of gun sales and we need to figure out how to clamp down on straw purchasing. Maybe limit the number of guns that can be bought within a specific period of time.

[Big Jim P]

Strengthen the ATF, allow the CDC to study gun-violence, possibly consider lengthening the waiting period.

We definitely need better tracking of gun sales and we need to figure out how to clamp down on straw purchasing. Maybe limit the number of guns that can be bought within a specific period of time.

What waiting period?

[United Dependencies]

Strengthen the ATF, allow the CDC to study gun-violence, possibly consider lengthening the waiting period.

We definitely need better tracking of gun sales and we need to figure out how to clamp down on straw purchasing. Maybe limit the number of guns that can be bought within a specific period of time.

What waiting period?

Well I can't speak for the other states, but we have a waiting period in NC (depending on which county you are in) as far as getting a handgun permit. Considering their involvement in suicide and crime, it might be worth looking into lengthening that time frame.

[Big Jim P]

What waiting period?

Well I can't speak for the other states, but we have a waiting period in NC as far as getting a handgun permit. Considering their involvement in suicide and crime, it might be worth looking into lengthening that time frame.

Ah. In Texas there is no waiting period. Or permit for that matter.

[United Dependencies]

Well I can't speak for the other states, but we have a waiting period in NC as far as getting a handgun permit. Considering their involvement in suicide and crime, it might be worth looking into lengthening that time frame.

Ah. In Texas there is no waiting period. Or permit for that matter.

*shrug*

I'm largely satisfied with the gun laws in my state.

[Big Jim P]

Ah. In Texas there is no waiting period. Or permit for that matter.

*shrug*

I'm largely satisfied with the gun laws in my state.

Same here.

Edit: With the exception of the fact that we need to get Constitutional Carry passed here.

[United Dependencies]

As you can probably guess, I don't rather mind shall issue myself.

May issue seems a little too capricious for me.

[Big Jim P]

As you can probably guess, I don't rather mind shall issue myself.

May issue seems a little too capricious for me.

I personally support Constitutional Carry. Shall issue (with nationwide reciprocity) is a good second choice.